Further ed teaching

Scrappychimow

I have a construction trade qualification and a level 8 TCD degree in environmental science. I was thinking of doing a 2 year part time diploma in further education in marino dublin. Is it worth it and would there be much opportunities with my qualifications?

Scrappychimow

Scrappychimow wrote: »

I have a construction trade qualification and a level 8 TCD degree in environmental science. I was thinking of doing a 2 year part time diploma in further education in marino dublin. Is it worth it and would there be much opportunities with my qualifications?

I don't know, TBH, but would it be worth phoning the ETBs in the region and asking what they think? You might get nowhere, but they are the organisations who pretty much run further education in Dublin, so they should know better than anyone else. And if they turn out to be unhelpful, at least it's only set you back the price of the calls.

Websites with contact details:

http://www.cdvec.ie/About.aspx

http://www.ddletb.ie/Util/Contact-us.aspx

And depending on where you are in Dublin and how you feel about commuting there are ETBs in the counties around Dublin.

Scrappychimow

Thanks, i already sent my CV around to all the Further ed centres last week

Crazyteacher

I think Ulysses suggested that you call the HR departments to enquire about the qualifications needed to teacher further ed.

Scrappychimow

Crazyteacher wrote: »

I think Ulysses suggested that you call the HR departments to enquire about the qualifications needed to teacher further ed.

Hi, i already enquired about that, a professional diploma in further education is now required to teach in further ed since last year (April), however if i can find find employment in this field i can get temporary registration with the teaching council until i complete the diploma.

Scrappychimow

i was really wondering would there be much modules available to teach in climate change, geography- biodiversity etc and woodwork (craft qualification).

Crazyteacher

Scrappychimow wrote: »

Hi, i already enquired about that, a professional diploma in further education is now required to teach in further ed since last year (April), however if i can find find employment in this field i can get temporary registration with the teaching council until i complete the diploma.

Be careful of that , the teaching council got very strict on that from last November .

Scrappychimow

Crazyteacher wrote: »

Be careful of that , the teaching council got very strict on that from last November .

They emailed me the other day confirming i could apply for registration for the time being provided i gain the diploma in the next three years. All i'm waiting on now is a reply for some work and then i'll enroll in the course

rainbowtrout

Scrappychimow wrote: »

They emailed me the other day confirming i could apply for registration for the time being provided i gain the diploma in the next three years. All i'm waiting on now is a reply for some work and then i'll enroll in the course

It's not actually that simple. There are loads of qualified teachers out there with those subjects. UL churns out at least 50 woodwork teachers a year, I don't know how many are coming out of the GMIT course. I'm guessing the environmental degree would give you geography or science depending on what modules you did. You are very limited just sticking to Further Ed.

Anyone that is surplus to requirments in schools within the ETBs in Dublin will be redeployed to other centres before any hiring is done. Getting teaching work without a teaching qualification is pretty much unheard of now.

Scrappychimow

rainbowtrout wrote: »

It's not actually that simple. There are loads of qualified teachers out there with those subjects. UL churns out at least 50 woodwork teachers a year, I don't know how many are coming out of the GMIT course. I'm guessing the environmental degree would give you geography or science depending on what modules you did. You are very limited just sticking to Further Ed.

Anyone that is surplus to requirments in schools within the ETBs in Dublin will be redeployed to other centres before any hiring is done. Getting teaching work without a teaching qualification is pretty much unheard of now.

Its actually site carpentry and some joinery workshop experience rather than that woodwork degree, thanks for the reply.

rainbowtrout

Scrappychimow wrote: »

Its actually site carpentry and some joinery workshop experience rather than that woodwork degree, thanks for the reply.

The point I was making is that there are loads of qualified woodwork teachers who have the qualifications who are looking for work. That's what you are up against.

Scrappychimow

rainbowtrout wrote: »

The point I was making is that there are loads of qualified woodwork teachers who have the qualifications who are looking for work. That's what you are up against.

It doesn't sound like such a good idea for me so :cool:

rainbowtrout

Scrappychimow wrote: »

It doesn't sound like such a good idea for me so :cool:

It's just that teaching work is scarce and those with qualifications will get it before those that don't which is the way it should be

Scrappychimow

rainbowtrout wrote: »

It's just that teaching work is scarce and those with qualifications will get it before those that don't which is the way it should be

I can understand that, but i was wondering even if i worked in some other area for the two years while completing the diploma would it be worth it. I'd probably be in the same position as i am now -just qualified from the BSc environmental science and no proper jobs for graduates in the area.

rainbowtrout

Scrappychimow wrote: »

I can understand that, but i was wondering even if i worked in some other area for the two years while completing the diploma would it be worth it. I'd probably be in the same position as i am now -just qualified from the BSc environmental science and no proper jobs for graduates in the area.

That is the risk at the moment. The PDE is 2 years and is going to cost you at least 10k between fees and general costs I would imagine.

Scrappychimow

rainbowtrout wrote: »

That is the risk at the moment. The PDE is 2 years and is going to cost you at least 10k between fees and general costs I would imagine.

Yeah, i think i'll put the idea off for now :pac: