Annoyed with St Vincent de Paul

stevek93 · 14-07-2014 1:48pm #1

Hi all,

I am really struggling to make ends meat at the moment, living alone on 100 euro a week. Rang St Vincent de Paul last Thursday week explained my situation said a someone will be out last Tuesday with food voucher never showed up.

Rang them numerous of time and was told they are very busy at the moment and there is nothing they can do.

I'm not asking for a lot I can't understand their tone you beg explain you cannot afford food and don't seem to care.

Snake · 14-07-2014 1:51pm

Or maybe they are busy? Instead of sitting on your arse ringing for the voucher get up and go collect it, if you need it so bad. They're overworked and under thanked, they can't just drop everything for you mate.

kult · 14-07-2014 1:53pm

I agree, they are overworked and underpaid. They do great job and I always support them.

smellmepower · 14-07-2014 1:55pm

No need for that sort of condescending response,the OP is just asking for advice.

Bro.Kevin in the Capuchin Day Centre gives out food parcels every Wednesday morning from 9.30am-12 if you have no luck with calling into SDVP.

http://www.homelessdublin.ie/capuchin-day-centre

Snake · 14-07-2014 1:57pm

smellmepower wrote: »

No need for that sort of condescending response,the OP is just asking for advice.

Bro.Kevin in the Capuchin Day Centre gives out food parcels every Wednesday morning from 9.30am-12 if you have no luck with calling into SDVP.

http://www.homelessdublin.ie/capuchin-day-centre

Sounds like the OP is looking to give about SVP unfairly. Get out and go get the voucher if you need it.

Chattastrophe! · 14-07-2014 1:59pm

GrayFox208 wrote: »

Or maybe they are busy? Instead of sitting on your arse ringing for the voucher get up and go collect it, if you need it so bad. They're overworked and under thanked, they can't just drop everything for you mate.

I'd agree with this .... if you're that hard-pressed, and if they're good enough to be giving you a voucher, would you not go and collect it rather than expecting to have it hand-delivered to your doorstep?

Snake · 14-07-2014 2:01pm

Chattastrophe! wrote: »

I'd agree with this .... if you're that hard-pressed, and if they're good enough to be giving you a voucher, would you not go and collect it rather than expecting to have it hand-delivered to your doorstep?

It actually annoys me because he's making it out like he's the only person they have to deal with in that situation

Jelly2 · 14-07-2014 2:06pm

OP, I'm not sure if you know this, but the people who do the work like going to houses and meeting people to give them vouchers are all volunteers. They have a huge number of calls on their time, and they most definitely want to help people. I don't think that they are being slow about coming to your house because they want to be slow. I know that doesn't help you, but it might explain a bit more to you about the demands on their time and the huge effort that the volunteers put in.

smellmepower · 14-07-2014 2:09pm

Sounds like OP is having a bad time of it,cut them some slack FFS.

It's hard when you pluck up the courage to reach out for help like the OP has,and none is forthcoming.

Snake · 14-07-2014 2:17pm

smellmepower wrote: »

Sounds like OP is having a bad time of it,cut them some slack FFS.

It's hard when you pluck up the courage to reach out for help like the OP has,and none is forthcoming.

Well they've said they will help, so that's completely wrong. He expects them to come riding to his house on a white horse by the sound of it, he has no right to be annoyed, now if he was told he can have one no one came he went to collect it and was told he's not entitled he can be annoyed, but for now - he can't.

stevek93 · 14-07-2014 2:19pm

I understand they are busy but the rudeness and rush to kick you of the phone I can't. have been in in contact with my local office and was told they do not let you collect vouchers that a volunteer needs to be sent out, I would gladly collect them from my local office I could.

The Hill Billy · 14-07-2014 2:21pm

OP - Sorry to hear that things are tough for you, but if you have €200 to spend on a bike & can cycle 10km per day (as per your thread last week) you should really be able to get to SVdP yourself to collect your voucher.

stevek93 · 14-07-2014 2:30pm

The Hill Billy wrote: »

OP - Sorry to hear that things are tough for you, but if you have €200 to spend on a bike & can cycle 10km per day (as per your thread last week) you should really be able to get to SVdP yourself to collect your voucher.

I was given a loan from the credit union to buy bike which I need for college in September and regular travel, not as if I plucked 200 euro out of the blue. Once I get back to college I will be fine but at the moment I'm am struggling.

TimeToShine · 14-07-2014 2:32pm

The Hill Billy wrote: »

OP - Sorry to hear that things are tough for you, but if you have €200 to spend on a bike & can cycle 10km per day (as per your thread last week) you should really be able to get to SVdP yourself to collect your voucher.

I really hate it when people creep through a poster's history, almost as if they're trying to "debunk" his/her problem.

Chattastrophe! · 14-07-2014 2:33pm

Wow. I'd love to have €200 spare to spend on a bike. It would also be nice to have the time to use the bike.

Enjoy your free money OP, whenever you get a chance to collect it (or have it delivered to you.)

Meanwhile, the rest of us will get back to work ...

stevek93 · 14-07-2014 2:36pm

I don't mean to come across as I am trying to rob the charity associations of this country just after buying a bike for 200 euro, am paying it back by 5 euro a week. Cheaper than public transport which is a bonus.

I have no no savings and do not receive support from parents, if someone else in same situation I'm sure they can understand.

dharma200 · 14-07-2014 2:38pm

Ignore those posts op, as for trawling through a persons history that should be banned.. I really hope things look up for you in the future and maybe get back on to vdp again and explain again it is hard, but I am sure they will help in the end....

stevek93 · 14-07-2014 2:40pm

[quote="Meanwhile, the rest of us will get back to work ...[/quote]

I like your thinking pm me your contact details and I will gladly take your job.

Chattastrophe! · 14-07-2014 2:40pm

Is there a reason you can't call to them personally for the voucher you feel entitled to?

stevek93 · 14-07-2014 2:42pm

Chattastrophe! wrote: »

Is there a reason you can't call to them personally for the voucher you feel entitled to?

To be honest I feel to embarrassed to speak to them in a public shop.

smellmepower · 14-07-2014 2:44pm

Chattastrophe! wrote: »

Is there a reason you can't call to them personally for the voucher you feel entitled to?

Is there a reason why you're being such a condescending prick to the OP?

As he already explained (if you bothered reading the thread before belittling the OP) SVDP told him that they have to visit him/her to give the voucher.

amdublin · 14-07-2014 2:45pm

stevek93 wrote: »

To be honest I feel to embarrassed to speak to them in a public shop.

Understandable.

Maybe you could ring them, arrange to collect voucher - ask them to put it in an envelope with your name etc - so then you are just going in and asking for "envelope you have to collect".

amdublin · 14-07-2014 2:46pm

smellmepower wrote: »

Is there a reason why you're being such a condescending prick to the OP?

As he already explained (if you bothered reading the thread before belittling the OP) SVDP told him that they have to visit him/her to give the voucher.

Um I did not get that from the op

dharma200 · 14-07-2014 2:48pm

stevek93 wrote: »

I understand they are busy but the rudeness and rush to kick you of the phone I can't. have been in in contact with my local office and was told they do not let you collect vouchers that a volunteer needs to be sent out, I would gladly collect them from my local office I could.

Post number 11 on thread.

stevek93 · 14-07-2014 2:49pm

amdublin wrote: »

Understandable.

Maybe you could ring them, arrange to collect voucher - ask them to put it in an envelope with your name etc - so then you are just going in and asking for "envelope you have to collect".

I didn't think they would let you do that I will give them a ring and see what they say thanks.

Chattastrophe! · 14-07-2014 2:49pm

smellmepower wrote: »

Is there a reason why you're being such a condescending prick to the OP?

As he already explained (if you bothered reading the thread before belittling the OP) SVDP told him that they have to visit him/her to give the voucher.

As a regular contributor to SVDP and other charities, it annoys me that some of those who benefit from such organisations have such a self-entitled attitude.

The money is going to this person rather than going to an impoverished young family - and yet he is bitching that it's not hand-delivered to his door - even though, by his previous posts, he can afford a bike and seems physically capable of using it.

He can afford a bike and an internet connection. I'm sorry, but come on, he's not that badly off. I am struggling financially with a small baby, and I find out that this is where my money is going? Call me a condescending prick if you like, but I'm unlikely to donate to SVDP again after reading this.

corner of hells · 14-07-2014 2:52pm

OP Brother Lukes give out a bag groceries every Wednesday in Church street's, Crosscare have a foodbank that provide groceries to a few charities in the city as well as a couple of community cafes, give them a call to find a local centre , all are anonymous and discreet.

SVP are fine, just run off their feet.

The Hill Billy · 14-07-2014 2:53pm

TimeToShine wrote: »

I really hate it when people creep through a poster's history, almost as if they're trying to "debunk" his/her problem.

dharma200 wrote:

Ignore those posts op, as for trawling through a persons history that should be banned.. I really hope things look up for you in the future and maybe get back on to vdp again and explain again it is hard, but I am sure they will help in the end....

Easy there folks. Less of your assumptions. I happened to remember the thread as I am in the market for a bike myself at the mo.

TheBlock · 14-07-2014 2:54pm

Chattastrophe! wrote: »

As a regular contributor to SVDP and other charities, it annoys me that some of those who benefit from such organisations have such a self-entitled attitude.

The money is going to this person rather than going to an impoverished young family - and yet he is bitching that it's not hand-delivered to his door - even though, by his previous posts, he can afford a bike and seems physically capable of using it.

He can afford a bike and an internet connection. I'm sorry, but come on, he's not that badly off. I am struggling financially with a small baby, and I find out that this is where my money is going? Call me a condescending prick if you like, but I'm unlikely to donate to SVDP again after reading this.

OP has explained that he needs the Bike for College and that its cheaper than using Public Transport. I really don't understand your problem here. The OP has clearly stayed they are strugling and have taken a step may others can't/don't and contacted the SVDP for help.

Maybe they don't allow voucher collections in case the people collecting live in luxury and are ripping the piss so they like to visit people in need to confirm thay are in need and also offer some one on one advice. As for your future donations would you like SVDP to contact you for approval of where your donation may end up?

stevek93 · 14-07-2014 2:55pm

Chattastrophe! wrote: »

As a regular contributor to SVDP and other charities, it annoys me that some of those who benefit from such organisations have such a self-entitled attitude.

The money is going to this person rather than going to an impoverished young family - and yet he is bitching that it's not hand-delivered to his door - even though, by his previous posts, he can afford a bike and seems physically capable of using it.

He can afford a bike and an internet connection. I'm sorry, but come on, he's not that badly off. I am struggling financially with a small baby, and I find out that this is where my money is going? Call me a condescending prick if you like, but I'm unlikely to donate to SVDP again after reading this.

How did you know I had a internet connection? Also scroll up see how I managed to afford my bike.

Also I am not asking vouchers to be dropped at my door I thought that's how it worked my mistake.

Tell me something 100 a week paying rent and bills I am not entitled to help?

solomafioso · 14-07-2014 2:58pm

Hey OP,

Sorry that it has come to contacting SVP for food vouchers, but you HAVE to take account of your current situation.

It's not ideal, but you might want to cut back on things like a 100MB UPC connection (in your sig).

I'd recommend jotting up your weekly / monthly outgoings.

So, at the top of a page put the total you get per week. Then plan your spendings. It'll be a pain in the ar$e, but might give you some leeway regards saving...even a few euro a week.

Be smart about spending on foodstuffs. Buy in bulk (spend now / save later in some instances). Shop in Lidl or Aldi and get "bulky" goods like pasta, rice, spuds (amongst other things!). Reduce costs if you're living on your own (electricity / heating).

The budget might reduce 'frivolous' spending. For example I have an extra calendar in Google Calendar just for my planned and erroneous spending. I know exactly how much I have (or mostly haven't!). Eg, I log every ATM transaction so it's not a surprise when I log in to find a figure MUCH lower than I thought.

Electric Ireland just tweeted a good summer tip on reducing costs.

I think your anger is misplaced as SVP would be a high-stress role.

TheBlock · 14-07-2014 2:59pm

stevek93 wrote: »

Tell me something 100 a week paying rent and bills I am not entitled to help?

Entitled may the wrong word OP, in need of charitable assistance maybe but entitled?

Maybe you need to apeak to SW as that's where your entitlements come from.

Chattastrophe! · 14-07-2014 2:59pm

stevek93 wrote: »

How did you know I had a internet connection? Also scroll up see how I managed to afford my bike.

Also I am not asking vouchers to be dropped at my door I thought that's how it worked my mistake.

Tell me something 100 a week paying rent and bills I am not entitled to help?

My rent and creche fees alone - without bills - are well over two grand a month.

Am I not "entitled" to help?

dharma200 · 14-07-2014 2:59pm

You are unlikely to donate after reading this.... OMG maybe you should read it a little better. Self righteous doesn't come close.
The person has no money and no food, they borrowed off the credit union to buy a bike which is a nessecity and will pay it back five euro a week.. Wtf is wrong with you. I might get an infraction here but why comment atall.... You wouldn't donate again because this person borrowed money to buy a bike? Because the vdp said they would come and didn't... Sickens me. That's it, don't donate again , feel better about yourself.

dharma200 · 14-07-2014 3:01pm

I think a mod should look at this thread. The person is asking for advice not comparisons to other people's lifestyle. People should be a bit lest hasty when commenting, this country has an incredibly high suicide rate in young impoverished men... Maybe have a think before jumping on that high horse.

stevek93 · 14-07-2014 3:02pm

smellmepower wrote: »

No need for that sort of condescending response,the OP is just asking for advice.

Bro.Kevin in the Capuchin Day Centre gives out food parcels every Wednesday morning from 9.30am-12 if you have no luck with calling into SDVP.

http://www.homelessdublin.ie/capuchin-day-centre

Only person so far who gave advice instead of bickering about my financial situation and why I am not entitled to help.

ProudDUB · 14-07-2014 3:03pm

stevek93 wrote: »

To be honest I feel to embarrassed to speak to them in a public shop.

That is perfectly understandable. But do you not think that their time would be better served doing drop offs at peoples homes, who are not capable or able to get on a bike and go to them? Surely the elderly, the sick, the infirm, women with small children, or who have just given birth, etc etc should have the first call on their time?

dharma200 · 14-07-2014 3:04pm

Ethiopians deserve it to but none of this is relevant to the op s post.

stevek93 · 14-07-2014 3:06pm

Chattastrophe! wrote: »

My rent and creche fees alone - without bills - are well over two grand a month.

Am I not "entitled" to help?

Never said you weren't sir.

TheBlock · 14-07-2014 3:06pm

dharma200 wrote: »

Ethiopians deserve it to but none of this is relevant to the op s post.

All of them??? Even these http://www.zehabesha.com/top-10-richest-ethiopians-in-2013-ethiopianreview-com/

Chattastrophe! · 14-07-2014 3:06pm

stevek93 wrote: »

Never said you weren't sir.

ma'am

solomafioso · 14-07-2014 3:07pm

stevek93 wrote: »

Only person so far who gave advice instead of bickering about my financial situation and why I am not entitled to help.

I think it's because you sound a little ungrateful in your posting about being inconvenienced that a charity cannot fulfil your wishes.

Rang them numerous of time and was told they are very busy at the moment and there is nothing they can do.

I'm not asking for a lot I can't understand their tone you beg explain you cannot afford food and don't seem to care.

Chattastrophe! · 14-07-2014 3:08pm

dharma200 wrote: »

I think a mod should look at this thread.

Do feel free to report any posts that you think contravene the charter.

Jelly2 · 14-07-2014 3:09pm

stevek93 wrote: »

Only person so far who gave advice instead of bickering about my financial situation and why I am not entitled to help.

I didn't bicker about either of these, thanks. Actually, I think it's great that you got a bike and are paying it back from the money you get. And I do think some people are being very hard on you. But, at the same time, the SVP can only do so much given the voluntary nature of the work. I hope you get some help soon.

January · 14-07-2014 3:37pm

smellmepower wrote: »

Is there a reason why you're being such a condescending prick to the OP?

As he already explained (if you bothered reading the thread before belittling the OP) SVDP told him that they have to visit him/her to give the voucher.

Personal abuse will not be tolerated here, try it again and you'll be banned from this forum for a week.

dharma200 wrote: »

I think a mod should look at this thread. The person is asking for advice not comparisons to other people's lifestyle. People should be a bit lest hasty when commenting, this country has an incredibly high suicide rate in young impoverished men... Maybe have a think before jumping on that high horse.

Then report the posts!

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