Ringing Portuguese number

karltimber

Hi,

when arriving in portugal, I have to contact the apt agent on this number (example) - 00 351 917 111 111.

what do I need to put into my phone to get this number - as is ??

Thanks

K

prettygurrly

that is what you put in your phone if you're ringing off an irish phone. Enjoy!

athtrasna

Take out the 00 and replace it with +

You should store all your numbers in this format, even your Irish ones eg +353871234567 rather than 0871234567 as this means you'll never have to worry about changing the number when you travel.

zagmund

+ is the international code for 'whatever I need to dial to call outside whatever country I'm in at the moment'

If you are in Irekand your phone will dial 00351, if you are in the US it will dial 011351, if you are in Portugal it will omit the country code entirely.

I always enter numbers in my contacts with +35387/85/89/1 as it means when I'm travelling I don't have to worry about the whole area code & international code thing.

Z

coylemj

karltimber wrote: »

when arriving in portugal, I have to contact the apt agent on this number (example) - 00 351 917 111 111.

As you will be on a Portugese network, you could dial 0917 111 111 but as already advised, better to store it as +351 917 111 111 which will work no matter where you are.

'00' as a prefix for international dialling will work in most countries but '+' as a prefix will work in all countries.

I store virtually every phone number with the full international format, the exception being my local take-aways for obvious reasons!

prettygurrly

coylemj wrote: »

As you will be on a Portugese network, you could dial 0917 111 111 but as already advised, better to store it as +351 917 111 111 which will work no matter where you are.

'00' as a prefix for international dialling will work in most countries but '+' as a prefix will work in all countries.

I store virtually every phone number with the full international format, the exception being my local take-aways for obvious reasons!

Pretty sure if you're roaming (i.e. using an irish phone) in a foreign country you still have to put the + (or 00) and country code in to ring numbers in that foreign country...I'm open to correction of course!

athtrasna

prettygurrly wrote: »

Pretty sure if you're roaming (i.e. using an irish phone) in a foreign country you still have to put the + (or 00) and country code in to ring numbers in that foreign country...I'm open to correction of course!

No you don't as you'll be registered on a network in that country.

steve-o

coylemj wrote: »

As you will be on a Portugese network, you could dial 0917 111 111

The OP could dial that number but it won't connect to anything. The local number is 917 111 111.

coylemj

prettygurrly wrote: »

Pretty sure if you're roaming (i.e. using an irish phone) in a foreign country you still have to put the + (or 00) and country code in to ring numbers in that foreign country...I'm open to correction of course!

There are times when you need to dial local numbers which can not be dialled with an international prefix like if a tourist in Ireland want to dial a 1 850 number and similarly, if a person with an Irish mobile in the UK wants to call a local company on an (0845) number and have it charged as a local call.

Once you're in a foreign country, you can dial the same numbers as the locals on the same network.

Gatica

athtrasna wrote: »

No you don't as you'll be registered on a network in that country.

Maybe depends on the country. I definitely had to put in +7 in Russia as I had to try numerous combinations to call their mobile.

athtrasna

Gatica wrote: »

Maybe depends on the country. I definitely had to put in +7 in Russia as I had to try numerous combinations to call their mobile.

That makes no sense. When you roam your phone registers on a network of the country you're in?

Gatica

All your network is routed through your own network, that's why you get charged roaming. Otherwise, sure wouldn't it be the same prices as a local call?
Calling Irish phone from Irish phone abroad is going to route your call from your phone back to Irish network so-to-speak and then out to the other phone number wherever it is. Their foreign network would have no way of knowing what you number is otherwise, or your could in fact clash with their own one if it had the same number. As far as they're concerned, you're part of the Irish +353 network, and if you call from one sub-net to the other, there has to be a way to route your call.

steve-o

I'd expect that incoming calls are routed through your home network (for obvious reasons), but outgoing calls are usually not. I have (surprisingly) seen people successfully use local Irish numbers when abroad. Perhaps it's a setting from their Irish network, or the phone itself is smart enough to modify the number when roaming.

Thankfully the EU is in the process of abolishing roaming charges, and in fact we now have the anomaly that because of EU roaming maximum pricing limits (max 23c per minute to any EU number while roaming), for many people it's cheaper to make a call or send a text when roaming than when at home. Outside of the EU, call, text and data roaming costs remain absurd in most countries.

Gatica

maybe the irish number off their phone but can't see how it would work for the local number without country code...
How is the phone/network supposed to tell 0871234567 from 065123456 for Irish and local number? It might be smart enough to try to call Ireland first and maybe append your own 353 network to it, but otherwise how is it to route to local number if it looks like it could be an Irish one?
It's like trying to get from one 192.168.1.1 network to another just by using its local IP. The router needs more info...

coylemj

I think if the number is valid in the country you're visiting then it will be used, only then will the local network route the call through your home network.