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Coaxial cable distance

  • 13-07-2014 6:52pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3


    I have just bought a house across the road from my parents, up to now I've been paying for the digital tv and have multiroom viewing, I don't want to take the digital away from them so I'm wondering could I take the multiroom line from the satellite across the road! It would be about 250m.. Would this work?


Comments

  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3 Provenzal


    Wouldn't it make a lot more sense to get your own dish?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3 Terryd1987


    Provenzal wrote: »
    Wouldn't it make a lot more sense to get your own dish?

    Well then I'd be paying 2 subscriptions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,597 ✭✭✭gctest50


    you can get wireless phone line extenders
    Maplin Technical said:
    Is this suitable for use with Sky boxes?
    Yes, this will work with all Sky boxes (including Sky+HD), however there may be issues if the box is manufactured by Thomson.
    http://www.maplin.co.uk/p/dect-wireless-phone-line-extender-a82fy

    You can get long range outdoor ones too

    .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,178 ✭✭✭STB


    gctest50 wrote: »
    you can get wireless phone line extenders

    They are seperate houses.

    DECT devices would be only suitable if they passed through the same circuit.

    Besides the distance being asked about is 250m away. DECT is 50m.

    I am not going to spelll this out, but didnt Sky change the rules for multiroom, meaning a telephone wasnt required once the boxes were connected to via wifi........


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,597 ✭✭✭gctest50


    STB wrote: »
    DECT devices would be only suitable if they passed through the same circuit.

    why would that matter to DECT gear?

    STB wrote: »
    Besides the distance being asked about is 250m away. DECT is 50m.

    DECT = ~ 300m outdoors


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,178 ✭✭✭STB


    gctest50 wrote: »
    why would that matter to DECT gear?

    DECT = ~ 300m outdoors

    Because you are using wiring from the electrical sockets within one house. They pass through a circuit breaker.

    House A is not connected to house B for this purpose. They are on different circuits ?

    Also that maplin Wireless Phone Line Extender "yoke" limitation is 50m on the one you linked from.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,597 ✭✭✭gctest50


    STB wrote: »
    Because you are using wiring from the electrical sockets in the house. They pass through a circuit breaker.


    DECT uses 1880Ghz -1920 Ghz in europe fdma/tdma

    This phone uses DECT

    - its wireless
    - you don't need to drag a cable after you

    dwJFWOK.jpg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,178 ✭✭✭STB


    gctest50 wrote: »
    DECT uses 1880Ghz -1920 Ghz in europe fdma/tdma

    This phone uses DECT

    - its wireless
    - you don't need to drag a cable after you

    dwJFWOK.jpg

    I fully understand how DECT works. You obviously do not.

    The base station for the solution you put forward extends the signal through the electrical wiring in the house. Thats why you do not have to drag telephone wiring around the house.

    The premise of these things working is that they are going through the wiring of a house on the electrical circuit.

    Would you mind telling me how your solution would work given the two houses would be on two different circuits!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,597 ✭✭✭gctest50


    STB wrote: »
    I fully understand how DECT works. You obviously do not.

    The premise of these things working is that they are going through the wiring of a house on the electrical circuit.

    Would you mind telling me how your solution would work given the two houses would be on two different circuits!

    I doubt it

    .


  • Moderators, Regional North West Moderators Posts: 19,172 Mod ✭✭✭✭byte
    byte


    @STB, those phone line extenders mostly use DECT now (though the OneForAll one originally did use the electrical circuitry, akin to Homeplug).


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,178 ✭✭✭STB


    byte wrote: »
    @STB, those phone line extenders mostly use DECT now (though the OneForAll one originally did use the electrical circuitry, akin to Homeplug).

    Thats exatcly what he has linked to.

    http://www.maplin.co.uk/p/dect-wireless-phone-line-extender-a82fy#


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,597 ✭✭✭gctest50


    STB wrote: »

    Maplin Technical said:
    Can these be used alongside HomePlugs and PowerLine devices?

    Yes, this does not transmit over the mains wiring, so will be fine alongside HomePlug devices.

    The phone line extender uses DECT (Digitally Enhanced Cordless Telecommunications) technology to transmit.

    anyway not good to be giving people ideas about getting around Sky satellite paid options

    apologies if you have reading or other difficulties
    .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,178 ✭✭✭STB


    Thats not what the product page says.

    I would take what Maplin Technical people say with a pinch of salt.

    Also the range on that device regardless of how it is received is 50m, not 250m.
    gctest50 wrote: »
    anyway not good to be giving people ideas about getting around Sky satellite paid options

    apologies if you have reading or other difficulties
    .

    I do not have any difficulties. Your solution failed on two or three reasons. Dont take it personally. You can go back and edit as many of your original posts retrospectively here as you want.

    I was more interested in your simple solution to a simple problem from a tech perspective not bypassing Sr Murdoch. I didnt even go down the road of the RF nightmares these maplin yokes cause.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,597 ✭✭✭gctest50


    DECT uses 1880Ghz -1920 Ghz in europe so they [should be ] grand

    Bad homeplug and CFL bulbs are gruesome


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,178 ✭✭✭STB


    gctest50 wrote: »
    DECT uses 1880Ghz -1920 Ghz in europe so they [should be ] grand

    Bad homeplug and CFL bulbs are gruesome

    So you're a broadcast engineer as well. I see.

    Lets hope that in the event that for some miraculous reason the DECT device you put across as a solution does extend 5 times past its specfied 50m limitation that the downstream signal frequency from the LNB on the dish dont match.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,597 ✭✭✭gctest50


    Nah , i just don't encourage people attempting to steal Sky products

    - days of fun to be had recommending stuff that kinda-works though, they eventually give up and stop trying to steal it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,178 ✭✭✭STB


    gctest50 wrote: »
    Nah , i just don't encourage people attempting to steal Sky products

    - days of fun to be had recommending stuff that kinda-works though, they eventually give up and stop trying to steal it

    Then why did you reply ?

    Kinda works. It would never have worked. But you didnt need to be a genius to work that out.

    At least you learnt something new about IF.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7 Einkorn


    Terryd1987 wrote: »
    Provenzal wrote: »
    Wouldn't it make a lot more sense to get your own dish?
    Well then I'd be paying 2 subscriptions.

    How would the receiver know it's connected to a different dish? The dish connection isn't your problem, it's the phone/wifi/whatever they use now to keep track of receivers.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7 Einkorn


    STB wrote: »
    ... Lets hope that in the event that for some miraculous reason the DECT device you put across as a solution does extend 5 times past its specfied 50m limitation that the downstream signal frequency from the LNB on the dish dont match.

    The DECT frequency will match the IF from the "Irish" Channel 4 transponder. But wouldn't you just use decent shielding in satellite cables & connectors to keep it out of where it isn't wanted? Same as you would if you want any DECT device to co-exist with channels on these particular frequencies?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,096 ✭✭✭Zardoz


    Easiest thing to do would be cancel their sub and get Sky installed in your house .
    A phone line is no longer required for multiroom in new installs,it was abolished last December.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,688 ✭✭✭winston_1


    STB wrote: »
    They are seperate houses.

    DECT devices would be only suitable if they passed through the same circuit.

    Besides the distance being asked about is 250m away. DECT is 50m.

    I am not going to spelll this out, but didnt Sky change the rules for multiroom, meaning a telephone wasnt required once the boxes were connected to via wifi........

    via THE SAME wifi

    Anyway this rule only applies for new installations after a given date last December. Older installations still new the phone line.


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