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  • 09-07-2014 6:25pm
    #1
    Peintre Celebre
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    National Service goes in the last at Newmarket tomorrow. Have him down as a max bet the next time he runs over six on quick ground. Had plenty of excuses before finishing well last time at Newmarket to just miss out on the places.

    Wouldn't be backing him for tomorrow but knowing my luck he will win when I'm not on, he gets right in at the bottom of the handicap. I think this horse will be rated a stone higher at least come the end of the season. Very much ground dependent


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  • #2
    Goldcupfav
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    Peintre Celebre wrote: »
    National Service goes in the last at Newmarket tomorrow. Have him down as a max bet the next time he runs over six on quick ground. Had plenty of excuses before finishing well last time at Newmarket to just miss out on the places.

    Wouldn't be backing him for tomorrow but knowing my luck he will win when I'm not on, he gets right in at the bottom of the handicap. I think this horse will be rated a stone higher at least come the end of the season. Very much ground dependent

    How do you know he is very much ground dependent? The horse has had only two runs on turf?


  • #3
    Peintre Celebre
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    Goldcupfav wrote: »
    How do you know he is very much ground dependent? The horse has had only two runs on turf?

    American bred, hated fiber sand, ran woefully on good to soft


  • #4
    hucklebuck
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    Will be interesting to see how he does.

    If you aren't going to back him tomorrow Stone of Folca might be worth a few quid, someone posted a tip the other day and he did not run:

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=91168541&postcount=13


  • #5
    PizzamanIRL
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    hucklebuck wrote: »
    Will be interesting to see how he does.

    If you aren't going to back him tomorrow Stone of Folca might be worth a few quid, someone posted a tip the other day and he did not run:

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=91168541&postcount=13

    He has his own twitter account. We should hear more straight from the horses mouth tomorrow

    https://twitter.com/StoneofFolca


  • #6
    Peintre Celebre
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    Horse has been pulled out today. Wonder why


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  • #7
    rossom
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    Peintre Celebre wrote: »
    Horse has been pulled out today. Wonder why

    Ground. Loads of rain made it softish.


  • #8
    Peintre Celebre
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    Was tongue in cheek Rossom but thanks


  • #9
    rossom
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    Peintre Celebre wrote: »
    Was tongue in cheek Rossom but thanks

    No worries. Hard to tell with text!


  • #10
    dicky dunne
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    hucklebuck wrote: »
    Will be interesting to see how he does.

    If you aren't going to back him tomorrow Stone of Folca might be worth a few quid, someone posted a tip the other day and he did not run:

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=91168541&postcount=13

    This runs today in the 4.05 at York, 20/1 into 12/1 with BET365


  • #11
    Juwwi
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    Runs tonight at Sandown 6:00pm

    Money seems to be coming for it.


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  • #12
    Bateman
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    Just had a bet at 9/2


  • #13
    carman2011
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    Tonight's only 5f so might not be the night.


  • #14
    Peintre Celebre
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    Think that run today screamed for a step up to six and that was a stiff five. Might get dropped a pound or that. I think he will be heavily backed when they do get into him


  • #15
    razorhead
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    Peintre Celebre wrote: »
    National Service goes in the last at Newmarket tomorrow. Have him down as a max bet the next time he runs over six on quick ground. Had plenty of excuses before finishing well last time at Newmarket to just miss out on the places.

    Wouldn't be backing him for tomorrow but knowing my luck he will win when I'm not on, he gets right in at the bottom of the handicap. I think this horse will be rated a stone higher at least come the end of the season. Very much ground dependent

    PC FYI, National Service is out tomorrow in 6F handicap 8.20 Wolverhampton


  • #16
    Peintre Celebre
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    I saw that razor, was full on preparing myself for a max bet tomorrow and then he gets drawn 13/13. That said he races held up so it may not be overly negative but it's hardly positive. He really caught the eye the last day and Dishy Guru who was in behind him won well since. Oisin Murpht on tomorrow


  • #17
    Francie Barrett
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    Peintre Celebre wrote: »
    I saw that razor, was full on preparing myself for a max bet tomorrow and then he gets drawn 13/13. That said he races held up so it may not be overly negative but it's hardly positive. He really caught the eye the last day and Dishy Guru who was in behind him won well since. Oisin Murpht on tomorrow
    I have been keeping an eye on draws at Wolverhampton since they went to tapeta in the hope of trying to gain an edge. Don't have my notebook with stats with me, but the widest drawn horse over this trip has won a few times. It's obviously early days, but from what I can see, there's no discernible bias.


  • #18
    razorhead
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    And Oisin rode a winner for Williams yesterday....


  • #19
    oPATCHo
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    May back him during In-Play... hoping to get a bigger price


  • #20
    Francie Barrett
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    Have doubled National Service with Al Mukhdam in the 7:20.


  • #21
    oPATCHo
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    nice!


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  • #22
    Peintre Celebre
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    What price Frankie, Ladbrokes opened a huge 6/1 last night, he was 4/1 and 7/2 elsewhere. Bit weak this morning but stronger now, this is a punting yard. Thought he would be absolutely smashed the night he is going to win. Not smashed but strong tonight


    I would have this down as a 2/1 shot if he wasn't drawn 13 and a max bet. I'd be disappointed if he didn't go close tonight though


  • #23
    oPATCHo
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    wow.... cant afford to be losing ground like that! He'll win once he gets out of the stalls


  • #24
    Peintre Celebre
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    My stream cut right at the off, did he walk out patcho


  • #25
    NaiveMelodies
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    Peintre Celebre wrote: »
    My stream cut right at the off, did he walk out patcho

    Walked out but was back on terms quick enough, no excuses 2 out, was well positioned but gave Murphy nada. Just didn't settle/doesn't settle.
    Only positive is he should be knocked down a couple of pounds and will be a much bigger price next time out!

    Have kept an eye on him since you started this thread and was sure tonight was the night. Gonna keep him in the notebook for few more starts.


  • #26
    Peintre Celebre
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    I could just be totally wrong and he is a nag. Might chance him once more over 6 but won't be going overboard


  • #27
    NaiveMelodies
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    Peintre Celebre wrote: »
    I could just be totally wrong and he is a nag. Might chance him once more over 6 but won't be going overboard

    Might well be a nag but the yard don't seem to think so and the ATR pundit tonight(his name escapes me) pretty much echoed what you've said.
    You just know he'll win on the snaff at 50s one dreary night in February and this thread will be bumped......


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