Are the House Of Saud Zionists or Zionist controlled?

Harold Weiss

I've often wondered how Saudi Arabia and Qatar benefit from their sponsorship of terrorism in the middle east.

Although Israel officially has no relations with Saudi Arabia, unofficially, it's clear that intelligence officials from each country meet in secret to coordinate attacks against Iran and Syria.

So now the question is, if Israel and Saudi Arabia are collaborating together on attacks against Syria and Iran, wouldn't that mean Israel also helps terrorist groups in Syria?

We are constantly led to believe Saudi Arabia alone or with Qatar provides the vast majority of money and weapons to Islamic Extremists throughout the Middle East with the blessing of US who had to fight same terrorists in Iraq.

Just recently, Obama asked congress to approve $500 million for "rebels" in Syria as if America didn't have enough problems of its own at home.

US and UK regularly sell weapons to Saudi Arabia, the most recent UK sale involved fighter jets and a visit by Prince Charles to close the deal on behalf of BAE.

What's funny is that everything Saudi Arabia does seems to benefit the overall Greater Israel project of expanding or redefining borders so that outside investors can take advantage of minerals and other resources.

For example, Genie Energy, whose shareholders include Dick Cheney, Ruppert Murdoch and Jacob Rothschild was permitted by Israel to drill for oil and gas in disputed territory, Golan Heights.

Anyone else think Saudi Arabia and US are just whipping boys for Zionist aspirations in the Middle East?

It's as if everything US, Qatar and Saudi Arabia do there only seems to advance the Zionist goals in the Middle East.

Or is this just all about making money, consolidating power in the region?

Torakx

That's a really good question to ask at the end. It can sometimes be hard to separate the propoganda involved to see a clear picture. Intentional I'm sure.
It's probably one I have no place in trying to answer
But I had to laugh when you mentioned Genie energy, I didn't know the company, but when I saw that list of names I laughed out loud. That's got to be the most criminal company going, with those names behind them.
They can ONLY be up to no good it seems, when considering the amount of damage these criminals have done to humanity.
Those types of people are what keeps the whole Agenda 21 alive for me.
And also, does that fit into the Zionist framework? I am very rusty with CT's.

kryogen

My enemies enemy is my friend and all that

though I admit I didnt actually read the post yet, sometimes it is beneficial to ally yourself with a traditional foe in specific circumstances

Brown Bomber

This axis of evil predates Israel. The House of Saud was cozy with the Zionists from at least 100 years ago.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faisal-Weizmann_Agreement#cite_note-4

There is an interesting quote there from a British diplomat which if anyone was to say here people wouldn't be able to hit the report button fast enough.

In preparation for the meeting, British diplomat Mark Sykes had written to Faisal about the Jewish people, "I know that the Arabs despise, condemn, and hate the Jews" but he added "I speak the truth when I say that this race, despised and weak, is universal, is all-powerful and cannot be put down"

Another interesting document is one I will try to remember the name of and track down. ... Just did. It is supposedly the memoirs of a British spy who was involved in the creation of Wahabbism so it could be used as a tool against Muslims and how the plan much later reproduced in the Zionist's Yinon Plan and "A clean break" and currently being realised by fault or design was to create sectarian conflicts between Arabs and Muslims.

Confessions of a British Spy and British Enmity Against Islam
http://www.nooremadinah.net/Documents/Misc/ConfessionsofaBritishSpy/ConfessionsofaBritishSpy.pdf

thebannerboy

They go by religion a lot in that part of the world obviously.

King Cyrus of Persia liberated the Jews from the Babylonian's and the Jews honoured him so much that they referred to him as 'Messiah'. (Saviour) Around 530BC

Israel and the Saudi's might have more connection than we think.

BuilderPlumber

Israel's true enemies have been Egypt and Syria traditionally. A later one was Saddam's Iraq. One of these made up with Israel in the late 1970s, another is defunct and at present, Israel hatred is the last thing on the Syria regime's mind.

You notice that the Saudi funded terror groups are much more interested in Syria and Iraq than in attacking Israel. Israel has its internal enemy Hamas where it wants it and Hezbollah the same.

There was never a reason for Israel and Iran to be enemies. That's just an image both these friends in secret want to show the world to justify their own regimes' existence. The same with Saudi Arabia.

All 3 countries (Iran, Israel and Saudi) have similar aims. Israel wants to keep its neighbouring Arab powers poor and weak. Persian Iran does not want to see Arabs getting stronger. Saudi Arabia wants to be the head honcho Arab state so does not like to see the Syrias and Iraqs rising. So, all 3 could work together to keep the others out? Definitely.

RiteofPassage

It's easier to win a war if you control both sides

Absolam

RiteofPassage wrote: »

It's easier to win a war if you control both sides

It also ensures certain defeat though.

Brown Bomber

Important article on this by Patrick Cockburn, who is my opinion the best Middle East reporter by some distance.

Prince Bandar bin Sultan, once the powerful Saudi ambassador in Washington and head of Saudi intelligence until a few months ago, had a revealing and ominous conversation with the head of the British Secret Intelligence Service, MI6, Sir Richard Dearlove. Prince Bandar told him: "The time is not far off in the Middle East, Richard, when it will be literally 'God help the Shia'. More than a billion Sunnis have simply had enough of them."
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/iraq-crisis-how-saudi-arabia-helped-isis-take-over-the-north-of-the-country-9602312.html

BuilderPlumber

Brown Bomber wrote: »

Important article on this by Patrick Cockburn, who is my opinion the best Middle East reporter by some distance.

I can see that in a few years' time Saudi Arabia could become a very very dangerous country and a wannabe superpower. A very different dynamic could form.

Israel for now tolerates Saudi Arabia because it plays ball with America and it helps stem the advance of other Arab countries more hostile to Israel. Israel's real enemies include Syria and support for Assad by Iran and for the rebels by Saudi keep both sides bogged down and out of activity hostile to Israel (both Assad and the ISIS would be anti-Israel).

But imagine if things settled down: Saudi Arabia's team win in Syria, Iraq and Egypt. Israel is surrounded by Sunni fanatics on every side of them and suddenly share a common enemy with Hezbollah! Saudi Arabia would want to flex its muscles and show to the Arab world it is a leader who will stand up against Israel. Suddenly, Iran would become more important to the West and Israel and would be an official ally. The Shia, Christians and Jews of the Middle East would ALL feel they could be facing a holocaust from a hardline and savage common enemy. Even Hamas could feel threatened by the upswing of more fanatic Sunni organisations like al Qaeda, and ISIS.

The threat from Sunni terrorists is real and nothing equivalent to it exists in the Shia, Christian or Jewish communities in the Middle East. al Qaeda and its ideology is very dangerous and the biggest threat since Hitler. Ironically, it was nurtured by the West and has become a Frankenstein's monster.