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Do you meditate?

  • 05-07-2014 12:24pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,009 ✭✭✭


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    Ten years ago, if you’d told me that I would be seriously thinking about meditation, I would have said one of us is loco,” she told the New York Times in 2007. Since her initial study with Epel, the pair have become involved in collaborations with teams around the world – as many as 50 or 60, Blackburn estimates, spinning in “wonderful directions”. Many of these focus on ways to protect telomeres from the effects of stress; trials suggest that exercise, eating healthily and social support all help. But one of the most effective interventions, apparently capable of slowing the erosion of telomeres – and perhaps even lengthening them again – is meditation.

    Do you meditate? 56 votes

    Yes regularly.
    0% 0 votes
    I have in the past or I might consider it in the future.
    30% 17 votes
    No, never.
    69% 39 votes


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,202 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    I medicate.

    Any use?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭catallus


    No. That's when they catch you off guard. Stay vigilant!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,008 ✭✭✭not yet


    I eat free range eggs and own a copy of sgt peppers lonely heart club band does that count ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 440 ✭✭Pawn


    meh


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,007 ✭✭✭knird evol


    I have for many years now lived as a hermit. Meditating
    atop a mountain in the open. No access to any comforts, electricity, technology, computers or phones.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,472 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    not yet wrote: »
    I eat free range eggs and own a copy of sgt peppers lonely heart club band does that count ?

    I ate tofu last year


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,744 ✭✭✭diomed


    If idleness is another word for meditating then yes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,779 ✭✭✭Day Lewin


    There appears to be little enough consensus on what "meditation" actually IS

    I'm not being flippant, I'd love a succinct definition. Or even a reasonably comprehensive description of the general trend, various styles, etc.

    Not to mention - how do you know when you have succeeded in meditating, and not just daydreamed or "zoned out"??

    I've pondered about this for a long while, researched it, tried it, asked lots of people: and everyone gives a different answer!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,983 ✭✭✭Raminahobbin


    I love to meditate. I'm trying to work it into my morning ritual at present so that I do it every day.

    I love this saying:
    "Everyone should meditate for at least half an hour a day. If you don't have time, you should meditate for an hour."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,829 ✭✭✭Nemeses


    If meditating is the same as sleeping, then yeah I do about 5-7 hours a day.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,029 ✭✭✭Rhys Essien


    Mindfulness meditation seems to be spoken about a lot these days.There seems to be a lot of benefits to it.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/08/mindfulness-meditation-benefits-health_n_3016045.html


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,473 ✭✭✭Wacker The Attacker


    I masturbate


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10 Trequa


    katemarch wrote: »
    There appears to be little enough consensus on what "meditation" actually IS

    I'm not being flippant, I'd love a succinct definition. Or even a reasonably comprehensive description of the general trend, various styles, etc.

    Not to mention - how do you know when you have succeeded in meditating, and not just daydreamed or "zoned out"??

    I've pondered about this for a long while, researched it, tried it, asked lots of people: and everyone gives a different answer!

    Meditation is the act of changing the perspective of your focus so that you observe your sense perceptions, thoughts and emotions. When you meditate, you became aware of your breathing and all the subtle sensations in your body. You are no longer your thoughts when you mediate.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 642 ✭✭✭Bafucin


    Yes ten minutes a day on my own and once a week for 40 mins with a group. Been doing it for a few weeks now.

    I am doing an Engineering PHD and I also work shifts as a rigger and sound engineer for gigs some weekends I needed somet hing to ground me.

    I have a lot of money issues (I'm broke) and stress in general. I cycle and walk a lot and i try and do something went walking in nature. It really helps to do it outdoors in nature I find. Your setting is important when you are only starting like me I think.

    There are many forms of meditation...for some it is a sport like running or for some it is a craft like drawing or knitting ...for some it's dance music or classical music...we all meditate in one way or another.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,743 ✭✭✭✭thebaz


    yes - not eneogh to make me serene


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,020 ✭✭✭uch


    Only on the Jax, Oh please God oh please god

    21/25



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 329 ✭✭Corkgirl210


    yip..nothing like going to my inner kingdom.. all the answers lie within ;o)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,711 ✭✭✭cloudatlas


    I went to a buddhist meditation class once. I'm not stressed so I don't feel like I would need it. If I had quiet time and felt run down I'd rather read or take a nap.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,618 ✭✭✭The Diabolical Monocle


    Pawn wrote: »
    meh

    dee


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,020 ✭✭✭uch


    cloudatlas wrote: »
    I went to a buddhist meditation class once. I'm not stressed so I don't feel like I would need it. If I had quiet time and felt run down I'd rather read or take a nap.

    Ah c'mon everybody meditates on the Jax

    21/25



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 559 ✭✭✭Joe Doe


    Have been meditating ever since 14, during training for a Senior Grade Belt in a variant of Wing Chun (Kung-Fu) by an Int'l Sifu Grand Master.

    One key aim/benefit of meditation is the ability to reach Alpha (8 – 15Hz) brain wave frequency, available within seconds after training (Theta/Delta levels for experts).

    Benefits of visiting Alpha include the activation of direct cross cerebral hemisphere communication efficiency, and the tapping into the 90% of the grey matter that most humans boast about not using. Trait gains include massive levels of creativity, visualisation skills, mental clarity, lateral based problem solving abilities and even brushes with clarvoyancy and direct biological cellular repair. Shoalin monks like to occasionally use it to move Chi through blocks of wood for the light entertainment of Westerners.

    A practical useful example would be that I can remember x50 random objects in sequence within few minutes, and recall back in any order using an alpha level state of mind.

    It's a massive field and contextual lifestyle factors and breathing techniques are also important.

    A good introduction would be 'The Silva Technique' or Jack Black's 'Mindstore Program' (for practical applications). Both are non-religious/non-cult affiliated, thankfully.

    If Costa Rica did a quick 5 sec meditation before those penalties, and during water breaks they might well still be in the World Cup.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,280 ✭✭✭Davarus Walrus


    I love meditation. 15 minutes of sitting in a chair and being yourself in the morning. It's the serenity of having no judgemental thoughts. Nothing that has happened can change that. It's a wonderful perspective.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,720 ✭✭✭Sir Arthur Daley


    I tried meditation once, got dressed up, music all the jazz. all was going well till the phone rang.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,316 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    Tried it before, but just fell asleep.
    Joe Doe wrote: »
    One key aim/benefit of meditation is the ability to reach Alpha (8 – 15Hz) brain wave frequency, available within seconds after training (Theta/Delta levels for experts).
    How does one meditate without falling asleep?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,893 ✭✭✭Canis Lupus


    Joe Doe wrote: »

    A practical useful example would be that I can remember x50 random objects in sequence within few minutes, and recall back in any order using an alpha level state of mind.

    Jesus, I have searching all these years for a solution to my everyday problem of needing to memorise 50 random objects and then recall them in in any order!!!

    I shall start meditating right away!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,575 ✭✭✭AlanS181824


    I have done in the past but I don't do it often!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 559 ✭✭✭Joe Doe


    the_syco wrote: »
    Tried it before, but just fell asleep. How does one meditate without falling asleep?

    Sit upright ideally with legs crossed, you can still slow wave activity without becoming unconscious/asleep. Assuming normal sleep position won't help :)
    Jesus, I have searching all these years for a solution to my everyday problem of needing to memorise 50 random objects and then recall them in in any order!!!I shall start meditating right away!

    Well ever need write a shopping list or quadrant one project list? Not me :)

    Other examples would be that the more experienced choose not to feel pain at the dentist or require any anaesthetics for surgery by combining techniques with self-hypnosis.

    You can also combine with other mind techniques such as NLP for creating handy physiological evoked mental-triggers etc. ahh the power of the mind.

    Likely too it will aid spiritual enlightenment, if you want that sort of thing / careful now Ted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,280 ✭✭✭Davarus Walrus


    Headspace.com do a lovely 10 minute session. Mindfulness is the most wonderful thing you can incorporate into your life. Serenity is beautiful.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,575 ✭✭✭AlanS181824


    Headspace.com do a lovely 10 minute session. Mindfulness is the most wonderful thing you can incorporate into your life. Serenity is beautiful.

    Thanks! Signed up for an account there now.

    Can't sleep, it's 4am, may as well meditate! :P


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 559 ✭✭✭Joe Doe


    brainsync.com/free-guided-meditation-online ¦ have some free ones too, find these are more 'quick fix' based rather than the more encompassing silva/mindstore ones or by reading up on traditional methods.

    The tracks use 'harmonically layered binaural beat frequencies' to influence base wave rates, 'tis a bit hit and miss and certainly not as catchy as an AC/DC track. Some claims of aura kindling and euphoria may be slightly exaggerated.

    Some of these more recent advanced mind technologies can be a bit too quick fix (changing your music collection from 440 to 432hz springs to mind!), worth exploring all the same. e.g. NLP isn't really any better than using Covey's 'essential basic habits of character'. Mindfulness meditation is popular but some more commercially minded health groups/cults may view it as the new cash cow too. Still does no harm in the same way yoga does no harm.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 665 ✭✭✭Aubrey loves Joe


    If people want to fight let them at it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 615 ✭✭✭jellyboy


    katemarch wrote: »
    There appears to be little enough consensus on what "meditation" actually IS

    I'm not being flippant, I'd love a succinct definition. Or even a reasonably comprehensive description of the general trend, various styles, etc.

    Not to mention - how do you know when you have succeeded in meditating, and not just daydreamed or "zoned out"??

    I've pondered about this for a long while, researched it, tried it, asked lots of people: and everyone gives a different answer!


    The answer is in the question ….


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,779 ✭✭✭Day Lewin


    @jellyboy - LOL and well spotted! But I didn't mean only myself - some people say that almost anything can be "meditative" but it sounds more like "just relaxing" to me - or else "doing nothing" - but maybe that IS meditation - see what I mean?

    Whereas the Alpha waves and telomeres etc are at least measurable.

    Must one use the breath as a "meditation focus"? or an image? or nothing?

    Can everyone do it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 559 ✭✭✭Joe Doe


    A dictionary would say:
    To focus one’s mind for a period of time, in silence or with the aid of chanting, for religious or spiritual purposes or as a method of relaxation:

    Prefer however...
    The purposeful act of achieving a concious nothingness connection(duality) with{in} the universe

    Anyone can do it, practice always improves, breathing techniques help, as can connecting thumb-finger tips, focusing closed eyes upwards (very slightly) etc. No need to cross legs like a Budda, sitting upright on a chair can suffice. Visualisation can help, but usually applied for specific aims. Visit your local library for free info (books/audio).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,779 ✭✭✭Day Lewin


    @Joe Doe, - nice, succinct summary, thank you. Definitely helpful :-)

    I always think that listening to your own breath is odd, and distracting; (why not take your own pulse?)

    and words are particularly distracting - we have such wordy brains! so I don't trust mantras either...

    That's why a "visual" simple figure appeals to me: the most single-minded focus...but I am never sure if what I do is Meditation anyway!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,717 ✭✭✭YFlyer


    I practice Transcendental Meditation.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,172 ✭✭✭FizzleSticks


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 953 ✭✭✭donegal__road


    If everyone meditated at one time all around the world there would be world peace.. am I wrong?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,059 ✭✭✭WilyCoyote


    If everyone meditated at one time all around the world there would be world peace.. am I wrong?

    No, you're merely quoting that great fat bearded conman from the banks of the Ganges

    Mental masturbation for those that like to sweat the small stuff

    Why did the Yogi forego Novacaine?














    Cause he thought he could Transcend Dental Medication.

    PS Maharishi and all other Eastern con artists ......... if BOARDS.IE reaches hell ....... I'm just joking


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,717 ✭✭✭YFlyer


    If everyone meditated at one time all around the world there would be world peace.. am I wrong?


    Just 1% of the world population practising transcendental meditation.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 557 ✭✭✭Waestrel


    any good places to learn meditation around dublin? I hear TM is money centered so ideally would like to avoid that


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,743 ✭✭✭blatantrereg


    Meditation can induce psychosis. Might be worth reading up about. I would suppose that this only would occur when people are trying to go beyond a state of feeling calm and focused, and attain some sort of altered perception or spiritual awakening. I would say it is only a significant possibility if someone takes it to extremes, or has a psychiatric condition that can cause psychosis already.


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