Anti-Gay Archbishop Investigated for Sexual Misconduct With Men

http://roygbiv.jezebel.com/anti-gay-archbishop-investigated-for-sexual-misconduct-1600098986/+phoenixtso

do i laugh or cry

i really believe some gay guy got knocked back by some guy when back when and he decided if i cant you then nobody will and started the hole gay is wrong malarkey

Tail Docker

Usually the case - the antier they are, the more I wonder if they are themselves gay, or why would it bother you? Also, hole, lol.

Tail Docker

Tail Docker wrote: »

Usually the case - the antier they are, the more I wonder if they are themselves gay, or why would it bother you? Also, hole, lol.

never thought of it that way before

Mr. Incognito

Love and hate are the same emotion

Karl Stein

What's up with that shit?

Links234

Absurdly common for the more outspoken anti gay folks to later be revealed as gay. There's even a term for it, Haggard's Law.

holystungun9

Mr. Incognito wrote: »

Love and hate are the same emotion

I love bacon.

What's your point?

Tail Docker

holystungun9 wrote: »

I love bacon.

What's your point?

Raw? No? - See?

thelad95

Which episode of Father Ted was this?

Luke92

All homophobes are just trapped in a massive closet.

MetalDog

Links234 wrote: »

Absurdly common for the more outspoken anti gay folks to later be revealed as gay. There's even a term for it, Haggard's Law.

Oh yeah, he of "Jesus Camp" fame/infamy.

jimgoose

He who condemns the Chocolate Hill is doomed to climb it!

Links234

MetalDog wrote: »

Oh yeah, he of "Jesus Camp" fame/infamy.

That's the fellow

Manach

And of course it is chance for the pro-LGBTqwerky types so show how tolerant they are; by generalising from the actions of one to the majority of the Church.

AlanS181824

I remember a few years ago or maybe it was more recent but it was revealed that the leader of this massive crue-gay company was in fact gay himself.

Gay people don't bother me at all and I don't see why certain people seem to want to get so involved in other's business.

_Redzer_

Is anybody surprised at this stage?

Karl Stein

Manach wrote: »

the pro-LGBT qwerky types

It's not 'qwerky' to be pro-equality. It's quite normal.

Manach

Manach wrote: »

And of course it is chance for the pro-LGBTqwerky types so show how tolerant they are; by generalising from the actions of one to the majority of the Church.

Getting the spoke in early, eh?



These guys have some nerve though, hypocritically hiding in plain sight like that. How on earth do they think they won't be found out?

endacl

I'm not anti-gay. I wish he'd just go and actually 'retire'. With his chirpy little pixie head and his Bono.

Not sure what bishops have to do with it. Is it an Eamon Casey thing?

Links234

AlanS181824 wrote: »

I remember a few years ago or maybe it was more recent but it was revealed that the leader of this massive crue-gay company was in fact gay himself.

John Paulk? Or there was George Rekers?

It's been said before that the fight for LGBT equality is between gay people who are out of the closet, and those who are still in the closet. And honestly, I think there has never a truer word spoken.

cloud493

I thought this was quite common, what do you call it, overcompensating.

Links234

Manach wrote: »

And of course it is chance for the pro-LGBTqwerky types so show how tolerant they are; by generalising from the actions of one to the majority of the Church.

Dear Manach. You brought up the church, nobody else so much as mentioned 'the' church or a church, never mind making any sort of generalization about it. I searched for the word church in this thread just to make sure I didn't miss something, and your post was the only hit.

Play martyr much?

Sonics2k

Manach wrote: »

And of course it is chance for the pro-LGBTqwerky types so show how tolerant they are; by generalising from the actions of one to the majority of the Church.

The hell are you talking about?

Links234

Karl Stein wrote: »

It's not 'qwerky' to be pro-equality. It's quite normal.

You know, what I think Manach meant there was a jab at the sometimes differing LGBT/LGBTQ acronyms, while at the same time calling for tolerance. Stay classy Manach

shruikan2553

Manach wrote: »

And of course it is chance for the pro-LGBTqwerky types so show how tolerant they are; by generalising from the actions of one to the majority of the Church.

You should be happy for it. Now people are talking about consensual sex with adults

_Redzer_

Manach wrote: »

And of course it is chance for the pro-LGBTqwerky types so show how tolerant they are; by generalising from the actions of one to the majority of the Church.

I love how you skulk around just waiting to drop something regarding religion and teh gays, then slither off in a shot before anybody can challenge you.

All it does is show how anaemic your argument is if you have to run off and hide if you know your statement will get obliterated.

But it does anyway, so you might think that because you go before you engage with someone that your post has some sort of credit or merit, it still doesn't, and is still nothing but nonsense.

Nailz

Links234 wrote: »

Absurdly common for the more outspoken anti gay folks to later be revealed as gay. There's even a term for it, Haggard's Law.

Ah yes, Ted Haggard, nutter.

Strangly enough at around the same time that he was involved in that scandle with the male prostitute he just recently appeared in one of Richard Dawkins Channel 4 documentaries and that's how he came to my attention. Had a good laugh when I heard that he'd been buying meth and rent boys.

Nodin

Nailz wrote: »

Ah yes, Ted Haggard, nutter.

Strangly enough at around the same time that he was involved in that scandle with the male prostitute he just recently appeared in one of Richard Dawkins Channel 4 documentaries and that's how he came to my attention. Had a good laugh when I heard that he'd been buying meth and rent boys.

The art in his church should have been a hint. I just thought it was a bit unorthodox, but I'm slow, I suppose.

floggg

Links234 wrote: »

John Paulk? Or there was George Rekers?

It's been said before that the fight for LGBT equality is between gay people who are out of the closet, and those who are still in the closet. And honestly, I think there has never a truer word spoken.

True. If I recall correctly, Bryan Fischer - a massive homophobe and bigot with a larger radio platform in the US - gave a very awkward dodge the question type answer when asked if he had very struggled with same sex attractions.

Whenever I hear the conservative types pound on about how gay is a choice or a lifestyle, I chuckle because to my mind they only way you can really belief that is if you have some attractions you are choosing not to act on.

For the rest of us, there no issue of a choice because we are only capable of thinking about one sex in that way - even if I wanted to choose a different orientation we couldn't make our dicks/lady parts go along with it.

So if anybody truly believes gay is a choice, then you have to conclude they are at best/worst (depending how you choose to think about it) bisexuals who are heavily in denial.

Or more often than not, gay people who are so far into the closet that they convinced themselves that they are capable of being opposite sexy attraction even though they inevitably break down every once in a while and find themselves in a meth induced rent boy orgy or whatever the closet case lesbian equivalent is.

Wishiwasa Littlebitaller

The catholic church made it all but impossible for any of them to remain celibate if you ask me.

It must be a nightmare trying not to think of sex when you haven't had it for years, yet they thought it a good idea, that as part of the celebration of mass, they drink some wine and then have the congregation all take turns kneeling before them, with their tongues, waiting to receive.

I'm just surprised that not one Priest ever turned an innocent Sunday mass into a surprise parish bukakkee.

Kivaro

Wishiwasa Littlebitaller wrote: »

I'm just surprised that not one Priest ever turned an innocent Sunday mass into a surprise parish bukakkee.

How do you know it hasn't happened?

shruikan2553

Wishiwasa Littlebitaller wrote: »

The catholic church made it all but impossible for any of them to remain celibate if you ask me.

It must be a nightmare trying not to think of sex when you haven't had it for years, yet they thought it a good idea, that as part of the celebration of mass, they drink some wine and then have the congregation all take turns kneeling before them, with their tongues, waiting to receive.

I'm just surprised that not one Priest ever turned an innocent Sunday mass into a surprise parish bukakkee.

Rule 34 comes to mind.

Links234

'Pray away the gay' pastor arrested for molesting teen boy, for the 2nd time!

CBS reminds that this isn't his first offense. In 2006, he was accused of molesting a 15-year-old boy, and sentenced to one year intermediate punishment and seven years' probation.

This crap just keeps on happening.

House of Blaze

Oh the delicious sweet irony just keeps flowing out of the news these days!

EoghanIRL

Links234 wrote: »

'Pray away the gay' pastor arrested for molesting teen boy, for the 2nd time!



This crap just keeps on happening.

Why do you think some people become nuns and priest etc...
It's the perfect way to hide that you are gay . Also easier to attact victims .vIt's just so ironic really .

Czarcasm

Put the lynch ropes and pitch forks away. These are allegations. Nothing, nothing has actually been proven, and for all the judgement LGBT people seem to experience, I find it somewhat ironic that posters here are making assumptions not just about the man's sexual orientation, but also about his guilt in relation to these allegations. This thread really DOES read like a witch-hunt, unsurprising really when you read this down the end of the article -

Pope Francis would do well to support the investigation fully and defrock and excommunicate Nienstedt if the allegations can be proven.

Nothing about the truth or innocent until proven guilty, but like some posters in this thread have done, the assumption is that the man is guilty, now all they have to do is prove it.

pq0n1ct4ve8zf5

Wishiwasa Littlebitaller wrote: »

The catholic church made it all but impossible for any of them to remain celibate if you ask me.

It must be a nightmare trying not to think of sex when you haven't had it for years, yet they thought it a good idea, that as part of the celebration of mass, they drink some wine and then have the congregation all take turns kneeling before them, with their tongues, waiting to receive.

I'm just surprised that not one Priest ever turned an innocent Sunday mass into a surprise parish bukakkee.

There was a book out recently by John somebody about the history of confession in the church, and the harm it might have done. Rules coming in over the centuries about pressing penitents to confess more and more details of their sins, the age getting dropped to seven for kids to have to do it, and how all that taking place in a small dark box with a sexually frustrated man really facilitated abuse of both adults and children at the hands of some priests. Can't remember the name of it though.

AndonHandon

Gay people are funny.

PopePalpatine

Links234 wrote: »

You know, what I think Manach meant there was a jab at the sometimes differing LGBT/LGBTQ acronyms, while at the same time calling for tolerance. Stay classy Manach

I wonder if his IP address can be traced back to 23 Merrion Square. He's just pathetic at this stage.

Czarcasm

Charlee Chilly Couch wrote: »

There was a book out recently by John somebody about the history of confession in the church, and the harm it might have done. Rules coming in over the centuries about pressing penitents to confess more and more details of their sins, the age getting dropped to seven for kids to have to do it, and how all that taking place in a small dark box with a sexually frustrated man really facilitated abuse of both adults and children at the hands of some priests. Can't remember the name of it though.

This one?

http://www.theguardian.com/books/2014/feb/23/dark-box-john-cornwell-review

Donkey Oaty

AndonHandon wrote: »

Gay people are funny.

That is a grotesque generalisation.

Some of them are (Graham Norton, at times), some of them aren't (that camp friend of Cilla Black's with the glasses who does the ITV chat show, can't think of his name) and some of them are not and never have been (Julian Clary).

And Derek Mooney can do serious in an emergency, although the format hampers him.

pq0n1ct4ve8zf5

Czarcasm wrote: »

This one?

http://www.theguardian.com/books/2014/feb/23/dark-box-john-cornwell-review

That's the one! Didn't read it myself, just the review in the LRB, but it looked interesting.

Dingle_berry

I have never engaged in sexual misconduct and certainly have not made any sexual advances toward anyone

Why specify misconduct & advances? As an ordained member of the catholic clergy shouldn't he be able to deny all sexual activity?

Links234 wrote: »

'Pray away the gay' pastor arrested for molesting teen boy, for the 2nd time!

This crap just keeps on happening.

Paedophilia (same sex or not) is different to sexuality. His attraction to underage boys doesn't make him gay.