Law and Order - would you move?

Hannaho

We were burgled twice - came home, my children and I, to see them legging it out an upstairs window. Recently, we have had an guy, on two occasions, banking on our door asking for the '****ing money/ 'if you don't give me the ****ing money, I'll burn down your house' - it happened again tonight. I don't owe anyone money. My guess, and the Gardai's is that someone along our row of houses owes money for drugs. The guy wore black and had a black baseball cap, so difficult to get an accurate description. My kids who were just getting their confidence back to stay in the house on their own for an hour or two, now don't want to stay in house for an hour before camp starts - they are 13 and 11. I live in a nice area in Dublin 9. Houses are currently going in our e estatefor between e375k and 495k. However, I'm thinking now of moving and the kids are too. Just wondered what others would do in this situation.

Pat Mustard

Not really a legal question, but anyway.

If you're going to stay, you need to consider improving security in the house. Gardai are often willing to give people some advice in that regard. If you have been burgled twice, there is a chance that it was the same burglar both times. Burglars get comfortable with house layouts and they return to their old stomping grounds. They come back.

If somebody came banging on my door, demanding money, I'd make it clear to him that I didn't want to see him again. If you are going to continue to stay in the house, you need to make sure that this guy knows that he is not wanted. Ring the guards, if you don't want to deal with him in person. For all you know, this guy could be your burglar, checking to see if anybody's home.

You need to get those issues sorted out, if you plan to stay there.

Zambia

The Mustard wrote: »

Not really a legal question, but anyway.

If you're going to stay, you need to consider improving security in the house. Gardai are often willing to give people some advice in that regard. If you have been burgled twice, there is a chance that it was the same burglar both times. Burglars get comfortable with house layouts and they return to their old stomping grounds. They come back.

If somebody came banging on my door, demanding money, I'd make it clear to him that I didn't want to see him again. If you are going to continue to stay in the house, you need to make sure that this guy knows that he is not wanted. Ring the guards, if you don't want to deal with him in person. For all you know, this guy could be your burglar, checking to see if anybody's home.

You need to get those issues sorted out, if you plan to stay there.

My learned friend is correct burglars are used to robbing the same place. If they liked a challenge they would do something else.

You need to make your house less appealing.

The windows might need to be strengthened

Security lights help as well especially motion sensor lights. When your creeping around in the dark no one likes light.

Cameras are usefull as well but know how to use them. In regards to the unwelcome callers try adding barriers to the front of the house like a driveway gate.

Dogs of any nature are also a good deterrent but don't buy a dog that gets stolen a lot.

poggo

Zambia wrote: »

My learned friend is correct burglars are used to robbing the same place. If they liked a challenge they would do something else.

You need to make your house less appealing.

The windows might need to be strengthened

Security lights help as well especially motion sensor lights. When your creeping around in the dark no one likes light.

Cameras are usefull as well but know how to use them. In regards to the unwelcome callers try adding barriers to the front of the house like a driveway gate.

Dogs of any nature are also a good deterrent but don't buy a dog that gets stolen a lot.

What??? and maybe an electric fence and some heavy dudes carrying stun guns,, this country is F**&*d,,no help,, no one in authority cares,,voilence is generally accepted,,look at the penalities for theft and fraud,,much higher than for any violent offence,,a govt. that passes laws by putting an add in the paper,,but what is worse is the majority of Irish citizens paid the thing and accepted this banana republic way of doing politics,, ( i am talking about the property charge) I have had enough and am getting out so you know what advice I would give..

Bepolite

I know I'm dyslexic and my punctuation is far from perfect but I must have missed the day at school where they taught double commas.

OP Criminal Law (Defence and the Dwelling Act) 2011.

Zambia

Bepolite wrote: »

I know I'm dyslexic and my punctuation is far from perfect but I must have missed the day at school where they taught double commas.

OP Criminal Law (Defence and the Dwelling Act) 2011.

Take two breadths

KateJaks

Zambia wrote: »

Dogs of any nature are also a good deterrent but don't buy a dog that gets stolen a lot.

I think that having a clever dog at home is the very good way to protect it. Of course, it isn't enough, but this can help in some occasions.

poggo

Bepolite wrote: »

I know I'm dyslexic and my punctuation is far from perfect but I must have missed the day at school where they taught double commas.

OP Criminal Law (Defence and the Dwelling Act) 2011.

Hmmmmmmm,,,,, that right,,,well get this I taught myself,,if you cannot critisize the post attack the punctuation,,sound but sad activity,,,

Little CuChulainn

poggo wrote: »

Hmmmmmmm,,,,, that right,,,well get this I taught myself,,if you cannot critisize the post attack the punctuation,,sound but sad activity,,,

Well since you brought it up. Do you have a source for this?

poggo wrote: »

voilence is generally accepted,,look at the penalities for theft and fraud,,much higher than for any violent offence

Because it's blatantly untrue.

Bepolite

poggo wrote: »

Hmmmmmmm,,,,, that right,,,well get this I taught myself,,if you cannot critisize the post attack the punctuation,,sound but sad activity,,,

Would it not have been more productive to teach it yourself correctly? I only ask as I've been doing the same (teaching myself): And I'm wondering should I simply have made it up? Seem a lot less effort. (Please do criticise the poor use of a colon there.)

As for your ridiculous rant of a post - I didn't think it really warranted commenting on. It's wrong in pretty much every point; which to be fair, I'm still trying to work out.

I'm more than happy to argue the substance if you provide any,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, punctuation aside!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!..................................................................................

celica00

I would like to point out, that a dog is not always good for security, especially if you only get a dog because of it.
A dog is responsibility, just like a child. And needs entertainment, food and care just as much, so please dont get one if you cant really keep one.

hullaballoo

Moderator: now might be a good time for everyone to gloss over the charter again, particularly the "Do" section: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057083888

Thanks,,,

poggo

Little CuChulainn wrote: »

Well since you brought it up. Do you have a source for this?



Because it's blatantly untrue.

look at the op,,, compare the penalties for fraud and for voilance,,,

Little CuChulainn

poggo wrote: »

look at the op,,, compare the penalties for fraud and for voilance,,,

There's nothing in the op that supports what you said. What penalties are you talking about? If you've ever been to a criminal court you'd know that violent crimes tend to attract higher penalties than non violent ones.

poggo

Bepolite wrote: »

Would it not have been more productive to teach it yourself correctly? I only ask as I've been doing the same (teaching myself): And I'm wondering should I simply have made it up? Seem a lot less effort. (Please do criticise the poor use of a colon there.)

As for your ridiculous rant of a post - I didn't think it really warranted commenting on. It's wrong in pretty much every point; which to be fair, I'm still trying to work out.

I'm more than happy to argue the substance if you provide any,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, punctuation aside!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!..................................................................................

What are you saying that the property tax was not introduced by the gov putting adds on tv and in the paper??? we are the laughing stock of many countries,, i know this cause i was asked in a political chat room " what country introduces laws with universal payment by placing adds in the paper" but what is worse is the irish public went and paid it,, what other country would do that???? can you imagine the french or americans running out to pay a tax introduced not by individual notification but by putting adds in papers and on television,, did that not happen??? was i dreaming i hope so,, it is easy to say all of my post is wrong anyone can say that,, i have presented evidence, first look above and second I said compare the penalties for fraud and for voilance,, thats my evidence where is yours and the other poster who made a blanket statment,, none of my op is correct,, but with you i am wasting my time cause of the way you attacked my post,, scared to go to the relevent issue you attack the punctuation,, then you post this "I didn't think it really warranted commenting on." First never end a sentance with a Preposition, never contract a word,, I could go on correcting the grammer and syntax but i fear i would be wasting my time, put simply if you think your english is so good I would look again and not correct others till you sort out your own terrible english..best of luck to you all I shall not be bothering to post here again...that gives you licence to call me all sorts and all the usual crap;;;;; cowards use.....

the culture of deference

Get 2 dogs. They will keep each other company.

Also keep an old smartphone near the front door to record all door knockers. Keep a can of WD40 near the door just in case said psycho tries to enter.