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door not catching in lock

  • 30-06-2014 8:05pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 445 ✭✭


    The pic shows a doorlock. When the door closes the lock will not catch as it is a few mm too far. It needs something behind the brass plate shown to push the plate a few mm to the right

    The question is what would be best there.?

    The pic is taken in the direction the door will close


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,190 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    GoodLord wrote: »
    The pic shows a doorlock. When the door closes the lock will not catch as it is a few mm too far. It needs something behind the brass plate shown to push the plate a few mm to the right

    The question is what would be best there.?

    The pic is taken in the direction the door will close


    Can you put another pic. This time a pic of the brass plate from the front / head on.
    It looks like the receiver on the brass plate might be adjustable


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 445 ✭✭GoodLord


    Here it is. One taken in the frame and one where it is on a white surface easier to see


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,190 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    GoodLord wrote: »
    Here it is. One taken in the frame and one where it is on a white surface easier to see

    I think I understand what you want to do now.
    If the door did close normally before then it probably is lock that needs replacing. I'm guessing the latch part of the lock is damaged.

    If you still want to build out the receiver You could use a slip of wood. A sharp chisel on a bit of 21 will get the slip of wood needed


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,688 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    Play does occur in the actual lock and that may be the issue. As said, if it clicked before, you should look at the lock and see is there play / movement in the spring part in the door.
    Regardless, you could just move the plate about 3mm in the direction of the door opening until it's in a position that the door does latch. Then you can use the adjuster tabs on that plate to tighten the door if it's a bit lose when closed. This Fix will leave a little gap beside the plate on the frame.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 445 ✭✭GoodLord


    Sleeper12 wrote: »
    I think I understand what you want to do now.
    If the door did close normally before then it probably is lock that needs replacing. I'm guessing the latch part of the lock is damaged.

    If you still want to build out the receiver You could use a slip of wood. A sharp chisel on a bit of 21 will get the slip of wood needed

    No the lock is ok . it will turn but it just does not reach it. the door can be closed fully with the lock in the lock position and it slips by it. so the door will not stay closed and cannot be locked.

    what is a bit of 22?

    What i was going to put in there is an ice pop stick. Glue it to frame and then screw the receiver plate over it.it is the right size too. am i mad?

    thanks


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,688 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    Ok I misunderstood.
    is the gap between door and frame too big then? Or is the plate overly recessed?
    If the gap between door and frame is too big, you could possibly pack the hinge side a little.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,190 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    Sorry I meant 2x1. Ice pop stick sounds easier.

    Is this a recent problem?
    Did the door close normally before?
    IIf the answer is yes then the lock is on the way out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,585 ✭✭✭greasepalm


    or a photo of door closed to see the gap between door and receiver.with warm weather i think wood swells and can you push door above receiver does it engage then?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 445 ✭✭GoodLord


    mickdw wrote: »
    Ok I misunderstood.
    is the gap between door and frame too big then? Or is the plate overly recessed?
    If the gap between door and frame is too big, you could possibly pack the hinge side a little.
    yes. how would i pack the hinge side?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 445 ✭✭GoodLord


    greasepalm wrote: »
    or a photo of door closed to see the gap between door and receiver.with warm weather i think wood swells and can you push door above receiver does it engage then?[/QUOTE]
    not sure what you mean


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 226 ✭✭johnnybmac


    you could loosen the screws on the hinges and push the lollipop sticks or whatever else you find behind the hinges. once the screws are tightened, the door will be a millimetre or so closer to the locking side of the door...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,688 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    Very slim packer under hinge at frame side will make all the difference.
    Just loosen the hinge screws slightly. Slip tiny packer in and re tighten.
    Failing that, it might be less noticeable to move lock out of door a couple of mm or so than moving the plate. You could do that by loosening the 2 screws and again packing behind.


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