Non-Potable Drinking Water

apkmbarry

I know of a business, not naming names as i don't want to breach any T&C's or whatever else.

Anyway to cut a long story short, it's a nightclub that reaches out to the younger audience (some barely 18), who may or may not be taking party drugs (most do) and one of my friends was there last night.
For one they haven't got suitable drinking water for consumption, and thus charges for bottles of water. This water problem has been going on for weeks at this stage and something needs to be done. One of my friends tried to take a bottle of water out to two people who felt ill outside and she was stopped by the owner from leaving,and he said he didn't care that the water they had was contaminated.

Surely there is some law that protects people?

I can't find anything via Google, and Law isn't my forte, any help about getting this resolved is appreciated

mfergus

Sure they have water for sale? Buy a bottle.
Why do you expect to get it for free.

It's not the owners fault somebody took drugs...

Dan_Solo

mfergus wrote: »

Sure they have water for sale? Buy a bottle.
Why do you expect to get it for free.

It's not the owners fault somebody took drugs...

It will be he owner's problem if somebody dies of dehydration when they refused to serve water.

mfergus

Dan_Solo wrote: »

It will be he owner's problem if somebody dies of dehydration when they refused to serve water.

But they are not refusing to serve water. They have water for sale.

The dehydrating person is refusing to buy water.

And presuming the dehydrated person is on ecstasy, as non drug users don't normally go out and die of dehydration on a night out, this wouldn't really be the owners fault/negligence.

Dan_Solo

mfergus wrote: »

But they are not refusing to serve water. They have water for sale.

The dehydrating person is refusing to buy water.

And presuming the dehydrated person is on ecstasy, as non drug users don't normally go out and die of dehydration on a night out, this wouldn't really be the owners fault/negligence.

AFAIK they are required by law to serve water free of charge as the Water Board technically provides it. You can't charge for tap water.

the world wonders

Dan_Solo wrote: »

AFAIK they are required by law to serve water free of charge as the Water Board technically provides it. You can't charge for tap water.

I have heard this too but this is the only reference I can find on irishstatutebook.ie;

Intoxicating Liquor Act, 1988 wrote:

7.—(1) In this Act “special restaurant licence” means a licence granted by the Revenue Commissioners pursuant to a certificate of the Circuit Court given under section 8 of this Act to a person in respect of a restaurant of which he is the owner and occupier authorising, subject to the provisions of this Act—


(a) the supply of intoxicating liquor for consumption on those premises, and


(b) the consumption of intoxicating liquor on those premises,


if, in each case, the intoxicating liquor is—


(i) ordered by or on behalf of a person for whom a substantial meal has been ordered,


(ii) supplied in either the waiting area or the dining area of the restaurant,


(iii) consumed in the waiting area of the restaurant before the meal by the person for whom the meal has been ordered, or consumed by that person in the dining area of the restaurant either during the meal or at any time not later than thirty minutes after the meal has ended, and


(iv) paid for at the same time as the meal is paid for:


Provided always that suitable beverages other than intoxicating liquor (including drinking water) are also available for consumption.

I think it's time to file that one along with all the other "facts" about being allowed to pee in a garda's hat if you're a pregnant woman...

Dan_Solo

Looks like you're right there. A lot of other countries (UK included) have mandatory free water but not here. Can a pub legally operate without drinkable water though?

Little CuChulainn

apkmbarry wrote: »

he said he didn't care that the water they had was contaminated.

What does this mean? Whose water was contaminated?

Peppa Pig

apkmbarry wrote: »

any help about getting this resolved is appreciated

Tell your friends not to be taking drugs - problem solved

coylemj

So let me get this straight - the partygoers presumably fork out cash to get hammered on a few cans of Dutch Gold, then they buy ecstasy or similar mind-bending drugs from an illegal drugs dealer (the drug itself coming from an unknown and unregulated source) and now they're complaining because there's no free water?

They have their priorities seriously fcuked up if you ask me.

GerardKeating

Dan_Solo wrote: »

AFAIK they are required by law to serve water free of charge as the Water Board technically provides it. You can't charge for tap water.

You can, even if the water is free, their would be be a cost to supplying the water. Staff to pour it, and the cost of what ever it is poured into.

Fred Swanson

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apkmbarry

Ok wow.
I am in no way affiliated with the people I'm talking about. My friends just happened to stumble across them and being good samaritans were trying to help them out.

There was also no evidence of anyone taking drugs, so get off your high horses, this could have just been a child who had simply drank too much.

So, back on topic...

Peppa Pig

apkmbarry wrote: »

There was also no evidence of anyone taking drugs, so get off your high horses,

apkmbarry wrote: »

who may or may not be taking party drugs (most do)

Looks like you have some evidence it happens...

Is the sun shining into that glass house?

No Pants

apkmbarry wrote: »

One of my friends tried to take a bottle of water out to two people who felt ill outside and she was stopped by the owner from leaving,and he said he didn't care that the water they had was contaminated.

Why are we talking about free water? It mentions that they were trying to take a bottle out.

apkmbarry

Peppa Pig wrote: »

Looks like you have some evidence it happens...

Is the sun shining into that glass house?

Yes. It happens, but there is no evidence to say they definitely were. People can fall illfrom too much Alvohol, it happens.

pablo128

Sides nightclub on dame street was the first rave I went to, back in 1993. The sold 2 types of drinks. Wine, and bottled water. No tap water. And the taps in the jacks were down to the barest dribble. You would be 10 minutes trying to fill a bottle of water. No-one died outside the door. Oh wait......

Peppa Pig

apkmbarry wrote: »

Yes. It happens, but there is no evidence to say they definitely were. People can fall illfrom too much Alvohol, it happens.

So why did you feel the need to mention this.........

apkmbarry wrote: »

(some barely 18), who may or may not be taking party drugs (most do) and one of my friends was there last night.

...... if it has no relevance to your question

hullaballoo

I know it's just a typo but alvohol sounds delicious.

No Pants

hullaballoo wrote: »

I know it's just a typo but alvohol sounds delicious.

The potable version isn't great.

apkmbarry

Peppa Pig wrote: »

So why did you feel the need to mention this.........
...... if it has no relevance to your question

Because it MAY be a factor? Are you that thick? Really? It's a popular spot for taking drugs, but it doesn't mean they are..

waterlizard

I have been working in the industry of 18 years and I can tell you that you can get a nasty fine for refusing people a glass of water

MarkR

waterlizard wrote: »

I have been working in the industry of 18 years and I can tell you that you can get a nasty fine for refusing people a glass of water

What's the fine for, exactly?