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  • 27-06-2014 6:48pm
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    bob5666
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    If I get approved builder to roof and build house and do structural works and get architect to submit commencement notice can I plaster and plum and second fix carpentry work and tile house myself ?


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    BryanF
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    Ask the certifying architect


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    Scotia Major
    Registered Users Posts: 35 ✭Scotia Major


    I'm a chartered engineer and will start a self build hopefully next year. Can I certify my own build?

    Is there a guidance on the net to become an Assigned Certifier?


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    Gumbo
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    bob5666 wrote: »
    If I get approved builder to roof and build house and do structural works and get architect to submit commencement notice can I plaster and plum and second fix carpentry work and tile house myself ?

    Who will certify the plastering, plumbing and 2nd fix?


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    bob5666
    Registered Users Posts: 202 ✭✭bob5666


    kceire wrote: »
    Who will certify the plastering, plumbing and 2nd fix?

    The assigned certifer could check work is to regs right ?


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    galwaytt
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    kceire wrote: »
    Who will certify the plastering, plumbing and 2nd fix?

    Where's the requirement to certify plastering ??

    Plumbing has certain things to achieve, but I'm not aware of any for plastering ?

    And, second fix what ??

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    Gumbo
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    galwaytt wrote: »
    Where's the requirement to certify plastering ??

    Plumbing has certain things to achieve, but I'm not aware of any for plastering ?

    And, second fix what ??

    Presuming an AC would require an ancillary certificate from the sparks and the plumber before signing off. Maybe no plastering (copy/paste laziness on my behalf).

    So Galwaytt, if you were acting as an AC, would you allow the client do his own plumbing and 2nd fix and then put your name to it at the end?


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    RITwing
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    I see another thread where leaves were mixed into plaster. A certifier cannot be too careful.


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    sydthebeat
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    galwaytt wrote: »
    Where's the requirement to certify plastering ??

    Plumbing has certain things to achieve, but I'm not aware of any for plastering ?

    And, second fix what ??

    EVERY construction activity is subject to building regulations and therefore by default is covered by the assigned certifiers certification.

    Any intelligent AS will request that EVERY tradesman that works on a site certifys their own work.... including plasterers.


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    miss no stars
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    Scotia Major wrote: »
    I'm a chartered engineer and will start a self build hopefully next year. Can I certify my own build?

    Is there a guidance on the net to become an Assigned Certifier?

    What's your field? If it's civil/structural as far as I know it's a case of work away. Just fill your own details in on the BCMS as the owner, builder, assigned certifier and designer (if you will be designing it yourself). It might be getting tightened up that you have to use a registered builder. Dunno where you'd stand with builders insurance, though. Last I checked the CIRI field was optional.

    If you're something like a medical devices engineer it might not be the best idea :eek:

    Talk to engineers ireland?


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    Scotia Major
    Registered Users Posts: 35 ✭Scotia Major


    CEng, but I’m with the ICE (UK - based in the North). I understand the AC must be chartered with the IEI however. This would require chartered engineers in the North to transfer over to the IEI if they wanted to work in the south. I wonder would there be implications in regards to the Good Friday Agreement here.

    Aye from what I’ve read I have seen that you are encouraged to use a registered builder. Is it actually compulsory though?


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    BryanF
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    Scotia Major wrote: »
    CEng, but I’m with the ICE (UK - based in the North). I understand the AC must be chartered with the IEI however. This would require chartered engineers in the North to transfer over to the IEI if they wanted to work in the south. I wonder would there be implications in regards to the Good Friday Agreement here.

    Aye from what I’ve read I have seen that you are encouraged to use a registered builder. Is it actually compulsory though?
    the onus is on the certifier. so you need to read the regulations and consider the liabilities your about to undertake.

    assuming you get IEI chartered memebership, it could be 'YOU' acting as the certifier, who declares YOU're the competent contractor (setup as a ltd/ director of a building company)

    this doesn't seem to be adeqautely covered by the legislation.


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