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Interested in the future of broadband in Ireland?

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  • #2
    bealtine
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,051 ✭✭✭bealtine


    If you have any ideas we'd love to hear them

    https://docs.google.com/document/d/13XY4YP2gGsHJIfj9b6DQSwmOUkg2kHJR3h8LpEQgEig/edit

    We may use some of these ideas at a later stage


  • #3
    AlanS181824
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,575 ✭✭✭AlanS181824


    bealtine wrote: »
    If you have any ideas we'd love to hear them

    https://docs.google.com/document/d/13XY4YP2gGsHJIfj9b6DQSwmOUkg2kHJR3h8LpEQgEig/edit

    We may use some of these ideas at a later stage

    I added mg thoughts to that document.

    Hope you don't mind!


  • #4
    bealtine
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,051 ✭✭✭bealtine


    AlanS181824 wrote: »
    I added mg thoughts to that document.

    Hope you don't mind!

    That's what it's for :)


  • #5
    AlanS181824
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,575 ✭✭✭AlanS181824


    bealtine wrote: »
    That's what it's for :)

    Silly me!

    I didn't even notice.


  • #6
    Royal Irish
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,401 ✭✭✭Royal Irish


    Can you add something for me?

    I ordered Eircom recently and I was told they could offer me no internet service whatsoever as I was too far away from the exchange. What annoys me most about this is the nearest exchange to me is located very close to the border of Northern Ireland which Eircom don't provide a broadband service. So half of that exchanges range is going into an area where they don't even do business.

    Another point would be that Eircom is the Universal Service Provider in Ireland and they have an obligation to provide me with at least 128kbps which obviously isn't enough in this day and age, but the fact that to can provide me with no service, they're actually breaking Irish and EU law. Not a single f*ck was given.

    EDIT: I forgot to add, they even charged me 677euro even though they couldn't deliver any service to me at all.


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  • #7
    ED E
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,170 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    Royal Irish wrote: »
    Another point would be that Eircom is the Universal Service Provider in Ireland and they have an obligation to provide me with at least 128kbps which obviously isn't enough in this day and age, but the fact that to can provide me with no service, they're actually breaking Irish and EU law.

    AFAIK the USO only needs to make a best attempt. They cannot and will not guarantee fixed line for the entire island(or entire republic).

    Move into the north, has mega high broadband penetration :rolleyes:


  • #8
    bealtine
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,051 ✭✭✭bealtine


    Royal Irish wrote: »
    Can you add something for me?

    I ordered Eircom recently and I was told they could offer me no internet service whatsoever as I was too far away from the exchange. What annoys me most about this is the nearest exchange to me is located very close to the border of Northern Ireland which Eircom don't provide a broadband service. So half of that exchanges range is going into an area where they don't even do business.

    Another point would be that Eircom is the Universal Service Provider in Ireland and they have an obligation to provide me with at least 128kbps which obviously isn't enough in this day and age, but the fact that to can provide me with no service, they're actually breaking Irish and EU law. Not a single f*ck was given.

    Well blame Comwreck...

    Functional Internet Access in Ireland is still 56k dialup as far as I know...
    Comreg don't seem in the mood to bring us up to the 1990s yet, also if you ordered the line specifically for broadband you can cancel it


  • #9
    Royal Irish
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,401 ✭✭✭Royal Irish


    I looked into it and it says that they have to provide you with at least 128kbps with installation costs exceeding no more than 3000euro with the customer paying whatever costs after that. No best attempt about it.


  • #10
    ED E
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,170 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    Royal Irish wrote: »
    I looked into it and it says that they have to provide you with at least 128kbps with installation costs exceeding no more than 3000euro with the customer paying whatever costs after that. No best attempt about it.
    Provision of access at a fixed location
    The USP must satisfy any reasonable request to provide connections to the public telephone network and access to publicly available telephone services. Also any connection provided by the USP must be capable of:
    Local, national and international telephone calls
    Facsimile (fax) communications
    Data communications at data rates that are sufficient to permit functional internet access (the USP is currently required to adopt 28.8kbps as a reasonable minimum data rate)
    The USP will be required to consider all requests for connections as reasonable if the expenditure involved in meeting the request is less than €7000 and the cost to the applicant shall not exceed the standard connection charge.
    - See more at: http://www.comreg.ie/consumer_initiatives/universal_service_obligation.590.html#sthash.UkZZxAKu.dpuf

    Important parts in bold. The in-situe lines they can tap you off aren't sufficient to get you a connection its safe to assume. Thus to provide you a suitable line they'd probably have to run a new line from a different exchange or different cab/large trunk line, or maybe even a new, more direct route with poles. To do this and get a full cabling team involved is going to be tens of thousands depending on distance. Thus, no line for you.


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