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Atheist declared mentally ill in Nigeria

  • 25-06-2014 12:13am
    #1
    Posts: 31,118 ✭✭✭✭


    What a fúcked up world we live in, being considered mentally ill because of his beliefs.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-28010234
    A Nigerian man has been sent to a mental institute in Kano state after he declared that he did not believe in God, according to a humanist charity.
    Mubarak Bala, 29, is said to have been forcibly medicated by his Muslim relatives, despite being given a clean bill of health by a doctor.
    The International Humanist and Ethical Union say a Lagos-based group has asked a lawyer to take up his case.
    Kano is a mainly Muslim state and adopted Sharia (Islamic law) in 2000.
    The IHEU says that when Mr Bala told relatives he did not believe in God, they asked a doctor if he was mentally ill.
    Despite being told that he was not unwell, Mr Bala's family then went to a second doctor, who declared that his atheism was a side-effect of suffering a personality change, the group says.
    Mr Bala, a chemical engineering graduate, was forcibly committed to a mental institution, but was able to contact activists using a smuggled phone.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,412 ✭✭✭Shakespeare's Sister


    Wtf?

    And that Sudanese woman who was released from death row has been detained again: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jun/24/sudan-death-row-woman-meriam-ibrahim-arrested


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,218 ✭✭✭Lucifer MorningStar


    That's ridiculous, but it's nothing in comparison to what they do to children who they think are witches :mad:


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,548 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    Magaggie wrote: »
    Wtf?

    And that Sudanese woman who was released from death row has been detained again: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jun/24/sudan-death-row-woman-meriam-ibrahim-arrested

    "You are a Muslim because your father was, despite you saying otherwise, therefore we're going to kill you."

    - Brain-dead morons. It would be great if hell does exist for people like these.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,088 ✭✭✭SpaceTime


    Start emailing and calling : https://nigerianembassydublin.org


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Yeah sure. In a state where Boko Haram are going around kidnapping women and trying to forcibly establish a brutal Islamist regime, it's the atheist guy who's mental. :rolleyes:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 953 ✭✭✭donegal__road




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,218 ✭✭✭Lucifer MorningStar




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,537 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    More positive escapades from the religion of tolerance.
    :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,202 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    dolanbaker wrote: »
    What a fúcked up world we live in, being considered mentally ill because of his beliefs.

    Because of his lack of beliefs, no?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,537 ✭✭✭Arthur Beesley


    Disappointing, but not surprising.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 546 ✭✭✭Azwaldo55


    dolanbaker wrote: »
    What a fúcked up world we live in, being considered mentally ill because of his beliefs.

    But they don't believe that Muhammad who was hearing voices, forcibly married a girl aged 6 and raped her at the age of 9 when he was 53 and launched a bloody conquest of the Middle East did not have a mental disorder?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,491 ✭✭✭looking_around


    dolanbaker wrote: »
    What a fúcked up world we live in, being considered mentally ill because of his beliefs.

    actually, what fcuked up country he lives in.

    The world aint fcuked up because a few countries are backwards.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,681 ✭✭✭✭P_1


    Organised religion has to be one of the ultimate head scratchers. If it gives you comfort in your life then fine, go for it, I know I certainly won't judge you for it. It would be nice to have the same courtesy extended to myself at times though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 328 ✭✭snaphook


    Nigeria has about a quarter of a millenium of enlightenment to do.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 937 ✭✭✭Buzz Killington the third


    Beat the God into him... that'll make him believe!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,666 ✭✭✭tritium


    Yeah sure. In a state where Boko Haram are going around kidnapping women and trying to forcibly establish a brutal Islamist regime, it's the atheist guy who's mental. :rolleyes:

    Interestingly I see that book Haram have kidnapped another 90 people. I await Una Mulally taking up their cause in the Irish Times - oh wait they're not all women and oppressed by the patriarchical media so that won't happen......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,750 ✭✭✭iDave


    FAO Muslims. Calm the fcuk down!.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭✭Dan_Solo


    So am I shouting for Nigeria or Iran then in the world cup? :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,681 ✭✭✭✭P_1


    Dan_Solo wrote: »
    So am I shouting for Nigeria or Iran then in the world cup? :confused:

    Did you not catch that match eh? Sleeping pill manufacturers around the world are currently instructing their lawyers to get it banned so their profit margins don't suffer :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,091 ✭✭✭Antar Bolaeisk


    At least he'd just being declared mentally ill, over here he'd be branded a terrorist.

    Apostasy is also a big deal in Islam, under Sharia I think it carries the death sentence.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,681 ✭✭✭✭P_1


    At least he'd just being declared mentally ill, over here he'd be branded a terrorist.

    Apostasy is also a big deal in Islam, under Sharia I think it carries the death sentence.

    That's another thing I don't get about religions. If somebody doesn't want to be part of an organisation that they (in the vast majority of cases) had no choice about joining surely it makes more sense to just let them go. Better to have them out of the fold than to have them unhappily going through the motions.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 473 ✭✭DildoFaggins


    No surprises on the religion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,541 ✭✭✭Davei141


    In fairness you would need to have something wrong with you to declare you don't believe in god in such a backwards religious hellhole.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,482 ✭✭✭✭Ush1


    "Sometimes I wonder, will God ever forgive us for what we've done to each other. Then I look around and I realize, God left this place a long time ago."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,067 ✭✭✭Gunmonkey


    P_1 wrote: »
    That's another thing I don't get about religions. If somebody doesn't want to be part of an organisation that they (in the vast majority of cases) had no choice about joining surely it makes more sense to just let them go. Better to have them out of the fold than to have them unhappily going through the motions.

    It could start a chain reaction of people questioning or flat out walking away. That leads to less control and power the religious group can exert on a community, as folks could just walk away if they disagree.

    And if you have a few dissenters, declare them "enemies of God" and you got yerself a ready made idol to draw the ire of the congregation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,681 ✭✭✭✭P_1


    Gunmonkey wrote: »
    It could start a chain reaction of people questioning or flat out walking away. That leads to less control and power the religious group can exert on a community, as folks could just walk away if they disagree.

    And if you have a few dissenters, declare them "enemies of God" and you got yerself a ready made idol to draw the ire of the congregation.

    True, quite a lot about organsied religion is purely down to a desire to control others, quite why they would want to do that is beyond me. It's one thing to want to control people with a view to preventing hurt or loss (crime laws and the like) but wanting to control people who are doing nothing of the sort is frankly ridiculous.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,513 ✭✭✭Ray Palmer


    Ush1 wrote: »
    "Sometimes I wonder, will God ever forgive us for what we've done to each other. Then I look around and I realize, God left this place a long time ago."
    I like the belief he left the devil in charge because he doesn't care about us.

    But then again I don't believe in either. I really don't get how people believe the bible or pretty much any religious text that makes reference to magic as normal.

    I have never seen any magic events of any type but the bible would have you believe it happens as does the Koran. You can't dismiss that as of the time and say it is true.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,441 ✭✭✭old hippy


    snaphook wrote: »
    Nigeria has about a quarter of a millenium of enlightenment to do.

    Nigeria is a collection of nations, tribes and peoples forced together.

    It's not all madness.

    Ken Saro Wiwa, Chinua Achebe, Ben Okri, Wole Soyinka to name a few of the inspirational people from Nigeria over the years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,140 ✭✭✭323


    snaphook wrote: »
    Nigeria has about a quarter of a millenium of enlightenment to do.

    Based on my own experience of that country, think that's a wee bit optimistic.

    “Follow the trend lines, not the headlines,”



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,785 ✭✭✭KungPao


    Dan_Solo wrote: »
    So am I shouting for Nigeria or Iran then in the world cup? :confused:

    I believe Iran are far from the bogey men they have been made out to be over the years.

    Places like Nigeria, Somalia etc are genuine basketcases though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    The RCC here was pretty bad but seriously, Thank Allah I wasn't born somewhere like Nigeria


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,618 ✭✭✭The Diabolical Monocle


    This whole thread is just concern trolling


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,785 ✭✭✭KungPao


    old hippy wrote: »
    Nigeria is a collection of nations, tribes and peoples forced together.

    It's not all madness.

    Ken Saro Wiwa, Chinua Achebe, Ben Okri, Wole Soyinka to name a few of the inspirational people from Nigeria over the years.
    Don't forget Finidi George AKA George Finidi!


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