Dont know what to do about picking a job

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Merkin

I think you're overestimating the importance of your current role. Nobody is indispensable and feeling in any way guilty or anything else for taking annual leave you are entitled to is misguided at best. They'll get on perfectly fine without you if you jump ship.

I also think you're reading reviews and asking questions about leaving when you haven't even applied Apply for the job and use the various interviews you attend to help you make a decision on whether it's for you or not. People forget that any interview process is a two-way street and is just as much a chance for the candidate to assess the company and its merits.

Apply for the job in the first instance and see what happens.

sashafierce

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Merkin

But the place isn't going to just fall apart if you leave. If you hand in your notice they will simply replace you.

bee06

sashafierce wrote: »

Its not that its so important or hard or whatever its that there is no one else trained.... today I was 15 mins late due to someone jumping under the subway and they were texting me panicking!! I asked for a day off in August and a meeting had to be called to organize it... Its a lot of pressure

I had a role where there was no cover for me, the president of the company used to make "jokes" about how I shouldn't take holidays and I got calls on my day off to do stuff. I was seen as indespensible and that things would fall apart without me. All of that didn't stop them making me redundant after 10 years when it suited them.

Do what you think is best for you because they will do the same when it suits them. As Merkin said, you are getting ahead of yourself anyway as you haven't even applied for the new job yet. Apply and see what happens and then make the decision if and when you need to.

sashafierce

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Rubberchikken

speaking for myself, i would stick with the job you have, but discuss having someone trained to be capable of filling in for you if the need arises.
you know no one is indispensible, but they are too reliant on you and that's just unprofessional.
what if you were ill? what if you do want to take holidays, which i assume, you would like to, as you are entitled and which is necessary for good health anyway.

talk with the manager. they have to see sense.

sashafierce

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bee06

sashafierce wrote: »

I never actually said I didn't apply for it yet. I did apply I hope to have an interview in the coming days.

Its trying to know do I leave a job that's grand and im not miserable in but feel pressure and take a risk at a job that may not be all its cracked up to be

Sorry, my mistake. It is a tough decision alright but don't turn it down because you think your current company needs you. When you are weighing up the pros and cons of a move base it on what is best for you and your career.

Johnwayne98

If you're not happy at present then leave your current job.

Johnwayne98

If you're not happy at present then leave your current job.

sashafierce

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nc19

The grass is always greener.........


In relation to holidays....fùck them!

Tell them the phone will be off during your personal time incl holidays except for 10mins every second day

Pawwed Rig

How about trying to go for a third option?

ManOfMystery

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It will only wear you out if you let it.

I have a fairly important and senior role in my company, and it's also unique, so I used to feel a bit like you - if I wasn't there, things wouldn't get done and the place would fall apart.

And this wasn't ego speaking, it was me being realistic - I often worked through lunchtimes, worked into evenings, came in on Saturdays and did some more, and so on. And when I didn't do that, things did deteriorate a bit - no-one else was in a position to do my work and things suffered. I sometimes deliberated over booking holidays because I knew there would be fallout. There were even issues when I was off on honeymoon. At one point it was implied that I would have to change my honeymoon dates to accommodate someone else until I told them to go jump.

Then my son was born and became my #1 priority. I went back to 9-5 hours, stopped doing evenings and weekends, and tried to have a break for myself at lunchtimes. And most importantly, I changed my mindset. It's not that I don't care about my work any more - I just don't let it consume my life.

I'm entitled to holidays.
I'm entitled to sick days.
I'm entitled to a break.
I'm entitled to leave work at a reasonable hour and spend my evenings and weekends with my son.

I work hard, but I realised that ultimately you never get any thanks when you work in a PLC. You'll be worked to the bone, but you could be replaced at the drop of a hat and forgotten about within a year. Don't kid yourself into thinking they place you on a pedestal - they don't.

Work is no longer that high on my list of priorities because I realised that my job isn't making a massive difference to the world; it's helping this PLC make a profit, that's all, so why should I exhaust myself during the best years of my life? Raising my son however is a different matter, and something that will let me really make a difference to someone.

Tiddlypeeps

I'd thread carefully with the new job you are looking at, don't take the reviews of people saying it's crazy hours with unpaid overtime lightly. It's very possible, and even likely, that the new place will give you just as much hassle and stress over taking holidays or sick days.

However if the move is a significant career change in a direction you want to be headed in then that might be worth putting up with, only you can know what your limits are and where you want to go.

If you are as needed as you say you are in your current role then you can use that to your advantage. You can tell your boss that you will be taking a week off some time in the future, name a specific date so that he takes it seriously. Make sure that it's far enough in the future that they have time to train somebody up enough to cover for you for the week. Tell him that's what he needs to do and that he has plenty of time to do it, so anything that goes wrong in that week will fall squarely on his shoulders if he does not. You are entitled to those holidays and it would be illegal for them to deny you any.

If he follows through and trains somebody up (he'd be very irresponsible not to), then you won't have this issue going forward because for as long as that person remains employed there you will always have someone to cover for you.

Sun in Capri

I would ask for a meeting with my current employer and I would explain that for me to function properly in the job that I need to take the holidays that are due to me, also my holidays are my legal entitlement. I would say that I am happy to give them notice of when I shall be taking holidays and that I am also happy to train somebody in to cover the essential parts of my job in my absence. I would say that it is important that at least one other person can cover for me because if I became ill etc what would they do. If they said "don't get sick" I would not be smiling.

If they work with this fine, if not I would be looking elsewere for a job.

Ps your boss does not have to have expert knowledge of your role to understand the importance of having somebody else trained in the role when you are absent.

sashafierce

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