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double bale carrier

  • 24-06-2014 12:51pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,447 ✭✭✭


    anyone one approx. cost of the double bale carriers for the back of the tractor?

    As in a new one and not second hand.

    and do people recommend them or is there anything in them that might say 'stay away'.....

    cheers


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46 CluanBomb


    Dunedin wrote: »
    anyone one approx. cost of the double bale carriers for the back of the tractor?

    As in a new one and not second hand.

    and do people recommend them or is there anything in them that might say 'stay away'.....

    cheers


    Have Nugent one on the hydraulics, €2100 iirc, good job for long draws and time saving,can bring 3 at a time, awkward enough in tight yards if your stacking at the front though!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,087 ✭✭✭vanderbadger


    fleming side tilt model, 1000-1100 euros maybe. good tool to clear field quickly but tight yards and small gates dont suit


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,881 ✭✭✭mf240


    Great job. Standard fleming is 1000 side tilt is 1250. I bought the side tilt


    A hydraulic top link makes them handier. The side tilt one lets you pick up the second bale without dropping the first one but they dont trip. Youd fly it with two on back and one on loader.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,087 ✭✭✭vanderbadger


    mf240 wrote: »
    Great job. Standard fleming is 1000 side tilt is 1250. I bought the side tilt


    A hydraulic top link makes them handier. The side tilt one lets you pick up the second bale without dropping the first one but they dont trip. Youd fly it with two on back and one on loader.

    the grease is still on the ram of my side tilt since last winter, never bother with it, easy to pick 2nd bale without moving the first one, they are a fair strong handler i reckon


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 59 ✭✭just_did_it


    Would a mf 390 4wd be fit to work a double bale handler with say two wet bales of silage on the back comfortly, with no weights or front loader?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,701 ✭✭✭moy83


    Would a mf 390 4wd be fit to work a double bale handler with say two wet bales of silage on the back comfortly, with no weights or front loader?

    I would say it could be light enough for the two bales


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 663 ✭✭✭John_F


    CluanBomb wrote: »
    Have Nugent one on the hydraulics, €2100 iirc, good job for long draws and time saving,can bring 3 at a time, awkward enough in tight yards if your stacking at the front though!

    is that this type?? Duo_Bale_Attach_1-750x562.jpg
    fleming side tilt model, 1000-1100 euros maybe. good tool to clear field quickly but tight yards and small gates dont suit
    mf240 wrote: »
    Great job. Standard fleming is 1000 side tilt is 1250. I bought the side tilt


    A hydraulic top link makes them handier. The side tilt one lets you pick up the second bale without dropping the first one but they dont trip. Youd fly it with two on back and one on loader.

    had a look at them a few weeks back, dose the bale you tilt not rub against the next bale??

    i see rossmore have a different set up all together would be handy for getting under bales made a while

    dhb-c.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 446 ✭✭poor farmer


    Would a mf 390 4wd be fit to work a double bale handler with say two wet bales of silage on the back comfortly, with no weights or front loader?

    No, you need a fair bit of weight and length ie. (a 6cyl tractor) for heavy silage bales.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 59 ✭✭just_did_it


    No, you need a fair bit of weight and length ie. (a 6cyl tractor) for heavy silage bales.


    Cheers, will forget about one so :-)

    Unless....If I had a loader on the 390 would it be fit to carry 2 bales on the back and one on the front ?

    Or would that be horrid messing with it ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,881 ✭✭✭mf240


    had a look at them a few weeks back, dose the bale you tilt not rub against the next bale??
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    It will if you tilt it fully but if you let it down a small bit but still of the ground it works perfect.

    It works well when you get used to it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 498 ✭✭agriman27


    Cheers, will forget about one so :-)

    Unless....If I had a loader on the 390 would it be fit to carry 2 bales on the back and one on the front ?

    Or would that be horrid messing with it ?

    A 390 wouldn't be fit for that kind of a load. Maybe if you get a loader and maybe one on the front and one on the back but that would even be a tough enough for it. I carry one on the front loader and one on the back of my 4355 with fusion bales and they fairly stick it to the ground and slows me up headin up hills and stuff was baled dry. A front end loader is a nice little weight too


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 59 ✭✭just_did_it


    agriman27 wrote: »
    A 390 wouldn't be fit for that kind of a load. Maybe if you get a loader and maybe one on the front and one on the back but that would even be a tough enough for it. I carry one on the front loader and one on the back of my 4355 with fusion bales and they fairly stick it to the ground and slows me up headin up hills and stuff was baled dry. A front end loader is a nice little weight too

    Cheers, might consider a loader at some stage in the future.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,748 ✭✭✭ganmo


    Cheers, might consider a loader at some stage in the future.
    The loader for the 390 is handy alright...but not standard brackets(i think) so you'd be stuck with what ever implement ya bought it with


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,087 ✭✭✭vanderbadger


    Would a mf 390 4wd be fit to work a double bale handler with say two wet bales of silage on the back comfortly, with no weights or front loader?

    no wouldnt recommend it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,087 ✭✭✭vanderbadger


    had a look at them a few weeks back, dose the bale you tilt not rub against the next bale??

    no the paws are pretty wide, i dont even line 2 bales together, just pick one bale the then move to next, you have to back first bale along ground to pick 2nd one but it doesnt do any harm, they dont touch each other as you are picking the 2nd one, if anything i find if you do tilt the first bale it brings it closer to the 2nd one so its kinda pointless


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 663 ✭✭✭John_F




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 294 ✭✭countryjimbo


    You could also consider the Balecat, it carries the bales on wheels so tractor size isn't important and can stack as well, saving on needing a loader. No idea of the price though!

    Balecat


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 288 ✭✭Upstream


    You could also consider the Balecat, it carries the bales on wheels so tractor size isn't important and can stack as well, saving on needing a loader. No idea of the price though!

    Balecat
    That looks like a good idea, I like the way it stacks them neatly on top of each other, so less chance of damage to the bale.
    I wonder how closely it can stack the bales in the yard, the video just shoes it dropping then at the end of the row, would you need much room on either side


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,453 ✭✭✭Zr105


    Upstream wrote: »
    That looks like a good idea, I like the way it stacks them neatly on top of each other, so less chance of damage to the bale.
    I wonder how closely it can stack the bales in the yard, the video just shoes it dropping then at the end of the row, would you need much room on either side

    Only ever saw that bale cat yoke at ploughing but in fairness it looked alright, cant say i studied it as id no real interest,

    Id say you should have no problem stacking tight together with it, we have soft hands handler on the loader, which would be no different to the grab on that and can get the bales touching, when you squeeze the bales the bales go in a bit around the hands and then when you release they will expand out and be tight against the other bale,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 364 ✭✭PN14


    Would the double bale handler & one bale on loader not be very hard on the tractor if you had a good bit of drawing to do. Its a fair weight up say 2tn at the rear incl lifter & over a ton + on front incl loader & bale. Thats a fair bit of weight on a tractor over rough fields & passageways etc.

    We have single lifter & loader for short draws around yard for bales from overgrown paddocks (have a trailer for bales from outside block) often though a double lifter would be handy but I think it would be very hard on tractor MF 4345 (similar to 390).

    Anyone with double bale handlers what size tractors are ye drawing in with?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 97 ✭✭tmboy95


    Used them on 20 series john Deere and 40 series new holland. With no weights both handled it okay but could get a bit light on the front end sometimes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,087 ✭✭✭vanderbadger


    PN14 wrote: »
    Would the double bale handler & one bale on loader not be very hard on the tractor if you had a good bit of drawing to do. Its a fair weight up say 2tn at the rear incl lifter & over a ton + on front incl loader & bale. Thats a fair bit of weight on a tractor over rough fields & passageways etc.

    We have single lifter & loader for short draws around yard for bales from overgrown paddocks (have a trailer for bales from outside block) often though a double lifter would be handy but I think it would be very hard on tractor MF 4345 (similar to 390).

    Anyone with double bale handlers what size tractors are ye drawing in with?
    100hp


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,305 ✭✭✭131spanner


    A lad drew in bales for us recently with a double handler. He bought it from Conor Engineering in Tubber. Some lad who works there is making them and they're selling on his behalf. No brand-name on them, afaik.

    A very strong and solid piece of equipment, impressive.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 743 ✭✭✭GrandSoftDay


    131spanner wrote: »
    A lad drew in bales for us recently with a double handler. He bought it from Conor Engineering in Tubber. Some lad who works there is making them and they're selling on his behalf. No brand-name on them, afaik.

    A very strong and solid piece of equipment, impressive.

    Is it a blue painted one. They are seriously heavy, at least twice the weight of a Nugent. He's not too dear for the either as far as I know!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,305 ✭✭✭131spanner


    Is it a blue painted one. They are seriously heavy, at least twice the weight of a Nugent. He's not too dear for the either as far as I know!

    That's the very one! We couldn't get over the strength of it. €850 new or so we were told, sure that's great value for money if Nugents are going for over €1,000 :)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,796 ✭✭✭GERMAN ROCKS


    the massey will manage the two bales no bother but you will need at least 5 or 6 45kg weights up front


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 743 ✭✭✭GrandSoftDay


    131spanner wrote: »
    That's the very one! We couldn't get over the strength of it. €850 new or so we were told, sure that's great value for money if Nugents are going for over €1,000 :)

    Ya fact, I was used to the Nugent and the first day I went hooking up the new one I got out and went dragging it to line it up with the back of the tractor..couldn't budge it though. Only fault I would have of them is the tipping mechanism is a bit crappy, the ram just bent the bar in it!


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