How much is hay worth

buffalobilly

Just after buying a few small bales of hay €2.50 a bale most guys around here are looking for €3 a bale which I think is too much. So how much do you think it is worth

Conmaicne Mara

Costs €3.70 - €4 by the time it gets out here, don't think I will buy any next spring if I can avoid it.

on the river

2 euro :-)

moy83

I got €3 off the the field . If you need small bales €3 isn't a rob really if the hay is good and they aren't small and loose .

Con , if you want I'm making another few in the next few weeks , I'll do you a deal if you can collect

Sam Kade

buffalobilly wrote: »

Just after buying a few small bales of hay €2.50 a bale most guys around here are looking for €3 a bale which I think is too much. So how much do you think it is worth

They charge 50c a bale more than you paid, pure robbers is what they are

The man buying always wants to buy as cheap as possible, the man selling wants as much as he can get.

I was selling silage a few years ago and a buyer was complaining about paying 12e a bale saying that it would cost him a lot in diesel to draw them 8 miles :mad: I told him that my tractor was running on water while baling them.

on the river

moy83 wrote: »

I got €3 off the the field . If you need small bales €3 isn't a rob really if the hay is good and they aren't small and loose .

Con , if you want I'm making another few in the next few weeks , I'll do you a deal if you can collect

2 euro and we have a deal. Taking boards into account I'm entitled to a reduced rate

Conmaicne Mara

moy83 wrote: »

I got €3 off the the field . If you need small bales €3 isn't a rob really if the hay is good and they aren't small and loose .

Con , if you want I'm making another few in the next few weeks , I'll do you a deal if you can collect

Thanks for the offer, no way of collection though (and nothing to pay for it either but sure I know that wouldn't worry you!)

moy83

Sam Kade wrote: »

They charge 50c a bale more than you paid, pure robbers is what they are

The man buying always wants to buy as cheap as possible, the man selling wants as much as he can get.

I was selling silage a few years ago and a buyer was complaining about paying 12e a bale saying that it would cost him a lot in diesel to draw them 8 miles :mad: I told him that my tractor was running on water while baling them.

That lad deserved a kick in the hole , he wouldn't have made them on his own land for 12e

Reggie.

moy83 wrote: »

That lad deserved a kick in the hole , he wouldn't have made them on his own land for 12e

That's a fact

rangler1

Reggie. wrote: »

That's a fact

Getting eight euros a bale here and the buyer mows bales and wraps it for overgrown paddocks......its not enough, but I hate making silage

munkus

Conmaicne Mara wrote: »

Thanks for the offer, no way of collection though (and nothing to pay for it either but sure I know that wouldn't worry you!)

Sure a few trip in the quad and you'd have 10 of them brought. :pac:

Conmaicne Mara

munkus wrote: »

Sure a few trip in the quad and you'd have 10 of them brought. :pac:

Ara if I was bringing the quad I'd borrow a 14 foot trailer to hitch on the back, only wasting petrol otherwise!

Kovu

Conmaicne Mara wrote: »

Ara if I was bringing the quad I'd borrow a 14 foot trailer to hitch on the back, only wasting petrol otherwise!

Problem sorted.

visatorro

22 euro for a 4x4 here.

Brown Podzol

What hay is making and what it's worth are two different things. Most of the hay that I see isn't worth as much powder as would blow it to hell. I suppose they can't roar at you when it in their mouth.:D

Username John

Well - how do ye value hay?

Do ye work out what's a fair price to the lad selling it?

A lad has to fertilise, then there's cutting, turning maybe 2 - 3 times, baling, not to mention the handling involved with small squares... And this doesn't count the bother of making hay, watching the weather...

At 3 / small square, say 120 bales / acre, that's 360euro. Take off fertiliser, machinery costs, diesel... and lets not forget if the weather breaks, you could end up with total rubbish, so there is risk in it.

I don't make hay, nor sell hay. But it always seems to be the way that if lads are buying, they're complaining that its too expensive, no matter what the price.
But the same lads are all tears when it comes to selling their own produce, cos they feel they're not getting a fair deal...

farmerjj

Username John wrote: »

Well - how do ye value hay?

Do ye work out what's a fair price to the lad selling it?

A lad has to fertilise, then there's cutting, turning maybe 2 - 3 times, baling, not to mention the handling involved with small squares... And this doesn't count the bother of making hay, watching the weather...

At 3 / small square, say 120 bales / acre, that's 360euro. Take off fertiliser, machinery costs, diesel... and lets not forget if the weather breaks, you could end up with total rubbish, so there is risk in it.

I don't make hay, nor sell hay. But it always seems to be the way that if lads are buying, they're complaining that its too expensive, no matter what the price.
But the same lads are all tears when it comes to selling their own produce, cos they feel they're not getting a fair deal...

That's a bit of a generalization.

kingstown

A lad has to fertilise, then there's cutting, turning maybe 2 - 3 times, baling, not to mention the handling involved with small squares... And this doesn't count the bother of making hay, watching the weather...

At 3 / small square, say 120 bales / acre, that's 360euro. Take off fertiliser, machinery costs, diesel... and lets not forget if the weather breaks, you could end up with total rubbish, so there is risk in it.

I don't make hay, nor sell hay. But it always seems to be the way that if lads are buying, they're complaining that its too expensive, no matter what the price.
But the same lads are all tears when it comes to selling their own produce, cos they feel they're not getting a fair deal...

But he is 100% spot on...!!

case885

How much per round bale?

sheebadog

Username John wrote: »

Well - how do ye value hay?

Do ye work out what's a fair price to the lad selling it?

A lad has to fertilise, then there's cutting, turning maybe 2 - 3 times, baling, not to mention the handling involved with small squares... And this doesn't count the bother of making hay, watching the weather...

At 3 / small square, say 120 bales / acre, that's 360euro. Take off fertiliser, machinery costs, diesel... and lets not forget if the weather breaks, you could end up with total rubbish, so there is risk in it.

I don't make hay, nor sell hay. But it always seems to be the way that if lads are buying, they're complaining that its too expensive, no matter what the price.
But the same lads are all tears when it comes to selling their own produce, cos they feel they're not getting a fair deal...

1 ton barley ~ €165
1 ton straw ~ €80
Do the maths.

moy83

sheebadog wrote: »

1 ton barley ~ €165
1 ton straw ~ €80
Do the maths.

How many ton of straw do you get from an acre of barley ?

sheebadog

moy83 wrote: »

How many ton of straw do you get from an acre of barley ?

With respect. How long is a piece of string?

moy83

sheebadog wrote: »

With respect. How long is a piece of string?

Thats alright , was just talking roughly but I suppose there are different varieties and straw lenghts alright

Username John

sheebadog wrote: »

1 ton barley ~ €165
1 ton straw ~ €80
Do the maths.

Thats fair enough, but how do you account for the bale size? Round bale vs big square vs small square?

I would say that small squares carry a premium, as they are more manageable for some people. I also know that some people see them as the total opposite too, just pure hardship

Farmer Pudsey

What hay is worth and what it will fetch is two different things. Good hay 65+ DMD 80%+ DM in well packed bales may be worth 30/bale. However there is a lot of hay in sheds since last year and a lot in fields at present. I would expect to buy it from 18 euro+ ex field if I was buying. The same with small square bales you might get them for 2/bale even less for course hay.

Brown Podzol

http://www.donedeal.ie/farmproduce-for-sale/fine-quality-laois-hay-for-sale/7186748

Bellview

picked up good quality bales at the weekend for 2.80 in Mallow area. dealing with same person for years but always happy... but Hay is a headache... on silage if a lad was getting less than €20 a bale he is losing money (if fert etc)