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Just got a job offer

  • 20-06-2014 2:53pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10


    I was wondering if someone on here would have any idea of what's working for a big gambling multinational. I've been offered a job in a large multinational today and while it looks promising, the whole interviews process has been a mess.

    First of all, the base salary has changed from the initial offer to a lower base salary. On the top of that, the in-house recruiter seems to not have a clue of how to manage a recruitment process, and them lot of small things in the letter I just got. For example, there are bonus based on performance, but according to the letter is at the discretion of the company and up to certain percentage. Also, it will take me 2 hours a day commuting to work.

    On the opposite, online gambling is a good area to work. With a lot of future work ahead of me.

    Does anyone on here have worked, or is working on a similar gambling company?

    Much appreciated your opinion.

    Cheers


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,458 ✭✭✭✭gandalf


    Congrats on the job offer.

    Never worked in the online gambling industry. I'd be wary if the base salary is different from what they initially offered. Did you query that with HR?

    I'd suggest checking out what is said on glassdoor.com about the company as well, it could highlight issues or put your mind at rest. Obviously bear in mind that not all reviews could be 100% honest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,966 ✭✭✭JDxtra


    2 hour commute to work is not sustainable...

    ...or do you mean 2 hours to/from work - so an hour each way??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10 verdygood


    gandalf wrote: »
    Congrats on the job offer.

    Never worked in the online gambling industry. I'd be wary if the base salary is different from what the initial offer. Did you query that with HR?

    I'd suggest checking out what is said on glassdoor.com about the company as well, it could highlight issues or put your mind at rest. Obviously bear in mind that not all reviews could be 100% honest.

    Just checked out galssdoor.com but there's no information on the company. The girl I've been dealing with is in-house recruiter for the company. The offer letter is quite vague.

    From the get go there's been something fishy about the offer, but not sure if that's an irrational feeling. I do like the company and the industry, but sick of the recruiters, TBH. It looks like they really want me there, but on the other side the base salary is inferior than what I'm currently now. And on the top of that, the bonus sounds quite irrational.

    Not sure I'll go with the offer, but so far, it's a no.

    Cheers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10 verdygood


    JDxtra wrote: »
    2 hour commute to work is not sustainable...

    ...or do you mean 2 hours to/from work - so an hour each way??

    One hour each way. I don't mind commuting, but everything adds and the reality is that even though I like the company they are not offering me any security. Just to give you an idea, the probation time is 6 months.

    Cheers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,528 ✭✭✭NinjaTruncs


    verdygood wrote: »
    One hour each way. I don't mind commuting, but everything adds and the reality is that even though I like the company they are not offering me any security. Just to give you an idea, the probation time is 6 months.

    Cheers

    6 months probation is very common in jobs. I would have thought it uncommon to have less, is this your first job?

    4.3kWp South facing PV System. South Dublin



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10 verdygood


    6 months probation is very common in jobs. I would have thought it uncommon to have less, is this your first job?

    Not, it isn't. But I thought 6 months is quite a period.

    Cheers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,685 ✭✭✭✭wonski


    verdygood wrote: »
    Not, it isn't. But I thought 6 months is quite a period.

    Cheers

    It always is minimum 3 months, 6 isn't that bad, really.

    In most decent companies it is a non-issue as long as you do your job.

    The salary being lowered out of nowhere is something I would not accept, very poor from the recruiter. I would question this before joining them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10 verdygood


    wonski wrote: »
    It always is minimum 3 months, 6 isn't that bad, really.

    In most decent companies it is a non-issue as long as you do your job.

    The salary being lowered out of nowhere is something I would not accept, very poor from the recruiter. I would question this before joining them.

    She said that they gave me a grade and that's the benchmark salary.

    And any idea about the grade they give you? Have you heard of it? Apparently they give you a grade and your salary raise and bonus depend on it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,316 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    verdygood wrote: »
    But I thought 6 months is quite a period.
    Probation means jack in terms of rights; they can sack you within the first year on a whim. Something to keep in mind when thinking of the 6 months in terms of job security.
    verdygood wrote: »
    First of all, the base salary has changed from the initial offer to a lower base salary.
    So they baited you, and you took it. Are you working atm, and would you have considered the job if originally offered at the lower cost?
    verdygood wrote: »
    On the top of that, the in-house recruiter seems to not have a clue of how to manage a recruitment process
    Remember this is the person you goto if you have any problems... check out her profile on Linkedin, etc, and see how long she has been in the company.
    verdygood wrote: »
    For example, there are bonus based on performance, but according to the letter is at the discretion of the company and up to certain percentage.
    verdygood wrote: »
    Also, it will take me 2 hours a day commuting to work.
    I'm guessing you're living in the city centre, and used to no travel time? At the same time, I think I know who the company is, and if it is, I've been told it's not a bad company to work for.

    An hour commute is fairly standard, and keep in mind as you'll probably be going to the opposite direction of the bulk of people, public transport will probably not be as bad.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    verdygood wrote: »
    She said that they gave me a grade and that's the benchmark salary.

    And any idea about the grade they give you? Have you heard of it? Apparently they give you a grade and your salary raise and bonus depend on it.

    Grades are used to denote what level you are at in the company so e.g. a cleaner might be grade 0 and the MD grade ten

    It's used in most large companies to band people with the same approximate skills into salary bands/bonus structures etc


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,537 ✭✭✭Arthur Beesley


    the_syco wrote: »
    Probation means jack in terms of rights; they can sack you within the first year on a whim. Something to keep in mind when thinking of the 6 months in terms of job security.


    So they baited you, and you took it. Are you working atm, and would you have considered the job if originally offered at the lower cost?


    Remember this is the person you goto if you have any problems... check out her profile on Linkedin, etc, and see how long she has been in the company.




    I'm guessing you're living in the city centre, and used to no travel time? At the same time, I think I know who the company is, and if it is, I've been told it's not a bad company to work for.

    An hour commute is fairly standard, and keep in mind as you'll probably be going to the opposite direction of the bulk of people, public transport will probably not be as bad.

    Cherrywood?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,316 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    Cherrywood?
    Was thinking Tallaght myself.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 523 ✭✭✭tenifan


    Recruiters and hr can be a bit of a joke at times. The power goes to their heads but they often aren't very professional. Don't take it personally.

    Many multinationals have salary grades going by job title. It's not exactly a rating, it's a category of employment.. e.g where i work collections might be grade E with a starting salary of €28k, banking and accounting grade F with starting salary of €31k. If you're any good in a company, you can usually get off these grade structures and negotiate your own salary.

    About the bonus. Unless your job is sales or commission-driven, don't worry about it. It's common for multinationals (especially plcs) to specify bonus/pay increments based on performance, but also for them to reserve the right to not pay anything if the company does not meet their targets. For a small yearly bonus like 2-3%, you'll find they'll just give you a solid 3/5 rating so they won't have to pay you a larger bonus.

    A 2 hour commute is fine. Anything more is pushing it imo.

    6 month probation is standard in many jobs these days. I've even seen 9 months probation and it's years since I've seen a job with only 3 months. You have few rights within your first year anyhow.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 824 ✭✭✭Kinet1c


    It's going to depend on what area you're working in. I could imagine customer service in the industry being horrific (much like anywhere else tbh) whereas the technology side would be quite interesting and most likely cutting edge (or quite close to it).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,344 ✭✭✭red_bairn


    What exactly is the name of the role? If you want to pm the company name and if its one that a mate works for I can get info from him. But as others have said Glassdoor and some other sites might have some useful reviews from employees.


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