Dublin to New York - Aircraft

BlazingSaddler

Hi all, very little Aviation / Aircraft knowledge, only an occasional passenger but have recently returned from a short break to New York with American Airlines. Is it the norm to fly a plane of that size on this route?, I believe it was a 757. It just seemed small to me for a flight of that length, I flew to Malaga with Aer Lingus recently (an A330 possibly) and it was a lot more spacious and comfortable. I think the alternatives to JFK are Delta and Aer Lingus direct from Dublin, what planes do they use on this route? I did upgrade to the extra legroom seats as I'm rather tall but it just felt like a plane that should be used on domestic / UK journeys!

L1011

Aer Lingus use an A330, Delta use a 767 (also a widebody).

BlazingSaddler

MYOB wrote: »

Aer Lingus use an A330, Delta use a 767 (also a widebody).

Thank you. So out of the 3 I chose badly!, mind you I think the Aer Lingus flight back on Monday was cancelled so it could have been worse!

owenc

mattb74 wrote: »

Hi all, very little Aviation / Aircraft knowledge, only an occasional passenger but have recently returned from a short break to New York with American Airlines. Is it the norm to fly a plane of that size on this route?, I believe it was a 757. It just seemed small to me for a flight of that length, I flew to Malaga with Aer Lingus recently (an A330 possibly) and it was a lot more spacious and comfortable. I think the alternatives to JFK are Delta and Aer Lingus direct from Dublin, what planes do they use on this route? I did upgrade to the extra legroom seats as I'm rather tall but it just felt like a plane that should be used on domestic / UK journeys!

Yes it is.

But flying to Malaga on an a330 is NOT normal.
Delta uses a 757 also. A 757 can fly much much further than Dublin to NYC, they could fly Dublin to Kansas or Orlando if they wanted.

United also use a 757 aswell as Us Airways to Charlotte.

owenc

MYOB wrote: »

Aer Lingus use an A330, Delta use a 767 (also a widebody).

Not always.

roundymac

Aer Lingus and Delta also use the 757 on Shannon(Snn)- JFK, while United use them on Snn-Newark services. Aer Lingus also use for Dublin to Taronto services. US Air also use them for their T/A services. Westjet have just started a ST Johns (Newfoundland) - Dublin service using a 737/700 which is smaller again, even smaller than Ryanairs 737/800.

owenc

United uses them on Shannon to Chicago which is well within the range.

I don't really see the problem, the United ones at least are pretty nice inside.

Tenger

owenc wrote: »

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But flying to Malaga on an a330 is NOT normal.
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It is for Aer Lingus over the last 4-5 years.
Summer schedule shows A330 for the early morning departure from DUB every day.
They even have 2x weekly A330 to FAO this summer.


To the OP: The problem is cost vs return. A330/B767 are most expensive to run than a B757. If you are not filling the widebodies then perhaps the B757 is a better sized aircraft for the route.
Look at EI in SNN recently. They were using an A330 for 7x weekly flight from SNN to JFK/BOS, but the flight were not always very full. They introduced 2 B757's to replace the single A330, which offers a similar seats per week but is cheaper to operate. And incidentally the frequency of flight has increase to both destinations.

The US carrier may use an A330/B767 ex-DUB in the summer but over the winter the route may be downgraded to a B757 due to lower demand.

L1011

owenc wrote: »

Not always.

As scheduled in summer, they do.

BonkeyDonker

Tenger wrote: »

To the OP: The problem is cost vs return. A330/B767 are most expensive to run than a B757. If you are not filling the widebodies then perhaps the B757 is a better sized aircraft for the route.
Look at EI in SNN recently. They were using an A330 for 7x weekly flight from SNN to JFK/BOS, but the flight were not always very full. They introduced 2 B757's to replace the single A330, which offers a similar seats per week but is cheaper to operate. And incidentally the frequency of flight has increase to both destinations.

The number of economy seats in a B752 in a two class config is quite close to that of a 767, but the operating costs are alot less. As Ireland, especially in the summer tends to be mainly tourists, with not a lot of business then the 757 is in lot of cases more profitable to run than a larger aircraft, as not only are you filling the aircraft, but the smaller number of seats helps increase yield.

LXFlyer

owenc wrote: »

Not always.

EI 584 and EI 585 have been A330 operated every day during the summer schedule for the past four or five years.

Preset No.3

I'm convinced at this stage that someone posts here at least once a week to wind the rest of us up! Oh the 757/330 debate AGAIN!!!!!!

Gael23

that new westjet route using a 737 must be horrendous

lord lucan

ryanf1 wrote: »

that new westjet route using a 737 must be horrendous

In fairness it's almost the equivalent of a Canary Islands run which are predominantly 737/a320 and you rarely hear complaints from pax on them services.

LoonyLovegood

I think eastbound it's shorter than the flight to Lanzarote.

Marcusm

ryanf1 wrote: »

that new westjet route using a 737 must be horrendous

It's substantially the same cross section as a 757 for a shorter flight time so not really horrendous.