self cancelling indicators

foxy farmer

Why aren't tractors and other vehicles fitted with self cancelling indicators? It's most annoying.

sandydan

that is an under-statement drove a half mile behind tractor last week on road with 5 right turns one after another and right indicator flashing whole time then he turned without looking and nearly caught overtaking motorbike mid bike.

9935452

sandydan wrote: »

that is an under-statement drove a half mile behind tractor last week on road with 5 right turns one after another and right indicator flashing whole time then he turned without looking and nearly caught overtaking motorbike mid bike.

I agree with the fact that tractors should be fitted with self cancelling indicators but personally i find even if you use them correctly , switch them off when not in use and turn them on when actually making a turn , cars ignore them. ive seen numerous accidents where cars overtake tractors turning right only to plough into the back axel of the trailer.

The other day i was turning right on a wide main road with indicator on. a car overtook me on the right. the next car overtook me on the left and the two almost collided when the one on the right rejoined the lane

sandydan

my biggest problem on mf is knee accidentally hitting switch if leaning back to pick up some thing and then finding indicator blinking away later.

PN14

Our MF have them 4345 2002 reg in fact its too sensitive and any turn of the steering wheel cancels the indicator which is a pain. I would have though most tractors from 00 onwards would have them. Older tractors dont for the most case and with noise you don't realise they're on its easy to forget if your watching tail swing on an implement or trailer turning etc.

sandydan

i often considered wiring a small warning flasher light into cab roof, but it might be a nuisance at night

Testacalda

All our John Deeres had a beeper in the dash board, which beeped as the indicators were flashing. It was a great idea as it wasn't annoyingly loud, but it would remind you to turn them off. They were in the '97 6800 and the '02 6910 but the ones after that had self cancelling.

Did a few days work in a 08 Deutz the past few days and they didn't seem to be self cancelling

sandydan

9935452 wrote: »

I agree with the fact that tractors should be fitted with self cancelling indicators but personally i find even if you use them correctly , switch them off when not in use and turn them on when actually making a turn , cars ignore them. ive seen numerous accidents where cars overtake tractors turning right only to plough into the back axel of the trailer.

The other day i was turning right on a wide main road with indicator on. a car overtook me on the right. the next car overtook me on the left and the two almost collided when the one on the right rejoined the lane

maybe thought they were xmas lights,or were they playing chicken.
seriously though ive had an episode like that when doing around 40 with a loaded artic near Rose Green in Tipp, right turn ahead , one car goes into mid lane to turn right ,next car follows thinking first was overtaking only to discover a car coming against them so swung back in front of me, nearly lost control almost wiping two cars off road, scary,seems trucks or tractor are there to be overtaken at all times regardless...

paddysdream

foxy farmer wrote: »

Why aren't tractors and other vehicles fitted with self cancelling indicators? It's most annoying.

Did you ever drive a tractor with them?
They are a pain in the ho*e on a tractor(t7 new holland)

Say for instance turning right on a main road;as you approach your turn every little wobble/turn of the wheel turns them off and its impossible to get them to work correctly for some reason
Thought it was just me but anyone that has them(new hollands only) say they are next to useless and at least the beeper was a better idea.

foxy farmer

Well in the last few months I've had occasion to drive a JD 7530 and a Komatsu 320 loader. Both had self cancelling indicators. The Deere had all the bells and whistles but like some have said they were too sensitive and in some cases wouldn't latch on if the steering was at a certain position. The slightest turn of the wheel put them off again. It also had a buzzer which I'd gladly settle for. The loader had no buzzer but wasn't too quick to switch off. If the Deere was like it it'd be a dream. I've seen harvesters go into a twenty acre field with an indicator on an come out with it still flashing away. A machine with all sorts of technological wonders on board but they can't be bothered to solve a simple nuisance.

sandydan

i was sitting in car in right hand side of street in a west cork town a few days ago and a number of empty spaces were in front of me and also an access lane to left, car driving down left side of street drove toward oncoming traffic it seemed to be aiming into one of those spaces and at last minute swung into the access lane on its own side and turned on left indicator as it did so, almost getting struck by car behind who thought it was going to park on right side of road .
talk about self cancelling indicators we need mind reading indicators for some idiots out there.

sandydan

foxy farmer wrote: »

Well in the last few months I've had occasion to drive a JD 7530 and a Komatsu 320 loader. Both had self cancelling indicators. The Deere had all the bells and whistles but like some have said they were too sensitive and in some cases wouldn't latch on if the steering was at a certain position. The slightest turn of the wheel put them off again. It also had a buzzer which I'd gladly settle for. The loader had no buzzer but wasn't too quick to switch off. If the Deere was like it it'd be a dream. I've seen harvesters go into a twenty acre field with an indicator on an come out with it still flashing away. A machine with all sorts of technological wonders on board but they can't be bothered to solve a simple nuisance.

maybe the Komatsu crowd are trained in quarry etiquette ie in quarries and sandpits im told all traffic gives way to bigger machines as rule of thumb as they may be unseen in vision blind spots of machines involved. however the indicator issue in expensive tractors like JD is unforgivable imo since transmissions capable of 40-50 kph for road use is one of there sale points advantages pointed out by salesmen and that generally is not a farmyard requirement, i think, or even a feature of EU on-farm haulage imo.

Zr105

paddysdream wrote: »

Did you ever drive a tractor with them?
They are a pain in the ho*e on a tractor(t7 new holland)

Say for instance turning right on a main road;as you approach your turn every little wobble/turn of the wheel turns them off and its impossible to get them to work correctly for some reason
Thought it was just me but anyone that has them(new hollands only) say they are next to useless and at least the beeper was a better idea.

That can be fixed on the NH quite easily!

Pull the steering wheel off and then under you'll find a triangular plate with a collar and 3 grub screws holding it to the steering wheel shaft, pop this off and on the underside there are three pins about an inch long, chop off the 2 closest to the indicator side and leave the one furthest away from the stalk(take careful note of the position it's in before taking it off).

By doing this you greatly reduce the sensitivity but it still have the cancelling indicators when you do a full turn of the wheel!

paddysdream

Zr105 wrote: »

That can be fixed on the NH quite easily!

Pull the steering wheel off and then under you'll find a triangular plate with a collar and 3 grub screws holding it to the steering wheel shaft, pop this off and on the underside there are three pins about an inch long, chop off the 2 closest to the indicator side and leave the one furthest away from the stalk(take careful note of the position it's in before taking it off).

By doing this you greatly reduce the sensitivity but it still have the cancelling indicators when you do a full turn of the wheel!

Sounds like a plan but the tractor in question belonged to a neighbour so just put up with the annoyance for the few days!!