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GPU Temperature Question

  • 19-06-2014 10:48pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,630 ✭✭✭


    At what temperature should I start to panic at? At the moment my GPU has peaked at 73 degrees Celsius when playing rather graphically-demanding games. I played Fallout New Vegas and it peaked at 69, whereas Skyrim has peaked at 72 (naturally).

    My MSI Afterburner program automatically states that 100 degrees will summon a warning, but I've brought it down to 95 just incase.

    But I keep uncomfortably looking up at my temperature while I'm gaming, worried about the temperature soaring up.

    The reason is; my computer kept restarting because and giving me the Kernel 41 error, to which my latest finding seemed to have been my GPU being too hot (after spending a week trying to figure out the issue). I found two lines of thick dust on either side of the fan, like, carpet-thick. So I cleaned off all the dust and I downloaded Afterburner to monitor my temperature, but beforehand, I had no idea what temperature it was at when the pc restarted.

    So, could someone put my mind at ease? What temperature is acceptable and what temperature should I worry?

    For the record, I have a total of 5 fans not including the GPU inside the PC (2 on the side, one from CPU, one from PSU and one from rear) so I have plenty of cooling flowing through. So far I've managed to play Fallout New Vegas for a full hour and 10 mins without an issue since I cleaned out the GPU. (Before this, it (and some other games) didn't last any longer than about half an hour straight.)

    Sorry for the long post.


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,644 ✭✭✭✭nesf


    It varies from GPU to GPU what temperature range is ok. AMD 6970s might not cut out until you hit 110 for instance (you wouldn't want it near this normally).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,644 ✭✭✭✭nesf


    Actually, the easy way to see if the GPU is the problem is to run a stress test on it, get the temp up high and see if there's a crash. If there is, it could be system cooling or your PSU or the GPU or some other component near the GPU getting too hot because of the rise in surrounding temperature (unusual).

    Error 41 doesn't mean much on it's own, other than something is wrong. If you *only* get it in graphically intense games then maybe it's the GPU, if it happens other times then it's probably something else.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,630 ✭✭✭Gamer Bhoy 89


    nesf wrote: »
    It varies from GPU to GPU what temperature range is ok. AMD 6970s might not cut out until you hit 110 for instance (you wouldn't want it near this normally).


    Sorry, I didn't even think to call out what my GPU was ><

    I'm running a GTS 250 512mb


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,630 ✭✭✭Gamer Bhoy 89


    nesf wrote: »
    Actually, the easy way to see if the GPU is the problem is to run a stress test on it, get the temp up high and see if there's a crash. If there is, it could be system cooling or your PSU or the GPU or some other component near the GPU getting too hot because of the rise in surrounding temperature (unusual).

    Error 41 doesn't mean much on it's own, other than something is wrong. If you *only* get it in graphically intense games then maybe it's the GPU, if it happens other times then it's probably something else.

    Well this PC is brand new as of last Wednesday, custom built. It could only have been my GPU since it was the only thing I kept from my old PC. And it only cut off when I played a game that had high graphics. At no other point did it cut off, and I've been using this PC non stop since I got it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,644 ✭✭✭✭nesf


    Well this PC is brand new as of last Wednesday, custom built. It could only have been my GPU since it was the only thing I kept from my old PC. And it only cut off when I played a game that had high graphics. At no other point did it cut off, and I've been using this PC non stop since I got it.

    Run a stress test, get the GPU hot and under heavy load and see if the system crashes. If it crashes, then, either the PSU isn't able to handle the load or there's something wrong with the GPU. Usually.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,644 ✭✭✭✭nesf


    Sorry, I didn't even think to call out what my GPU was ><

    I'm running a GTS 250 512mb

    I've seen that GPU as listed as needing a 450W PSU (assuming other components are normal) from a quick google. Normally these requirements are overstated by quite a bit but if it's smaller or cheap PSU in the system it might be the cause of the issues.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,630 ✭✭✭Gamer Bhoy 89


    nesf wrote: »
    I've seen that GPU as listed as needing a 450W PSU (assuming other components are normal) from a quick google. Normally these requirements are overstated by quite a bit but if it's smaller or cheap PSU in the system it might be the cause of the issues.

    Mines is a 500W


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,644 ✭✭✭✭nesf


    Mines is a 500W

    That should be loads. Assuming it can actually put out 500W of clean power.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,630 ✭✭✭Gamer Bhoy 89


    nesf wrote: »
    That should be loads. Assuming it can actually put out 500W of clean power.

    Well so far I've had no problems anyway. But I'm really reluctant to stress test the thing. I don't want to risk bricking it since I'd go up to a temperature that a game wouldn't normally reach


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,644 ✭✭✭✭nesf


    Well so far I've had no problems anyway. But I'm really reluctant to stress test the thing. I don't want to risk bricking it since I'd go up to a temperature that a game wouldn't normally reach

    No worries, but you can't brick a PC in any reasonable meaning of that term as its used for phones or tablets.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,084 ✭✭✭✭Kirby


    Those stress tests are artificial and can absolutely damage your card. I remember the millions of euro worth of cards killed by furmark a while back. :P

    Run the most demanding game you have for a while and see how high the temps get. You mentioned Fallout New Vegas. That has ambient occlusion which is a resource hog so that will definitely stress your card and give you an idea about what your game temps will be during a long session.

    Most new cards have excellent cooling and wont hit over 70 degrees even under heavy load. Yours is an older model with mediocre cooling but 72 degrees is nothing to worry about. At all.

    I ran two cards in SLI and they would regularly hit 85 degrees for several hours at a time. They worked perfectly for years. I wouldn't worry.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,770 ✭✭✭danthefan


    72 doesn't sound overly high for a GPU.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,630 ✭✭✭Gamer Bhoy 89


    Kirby wrote: »
    Those stress tests are artificial and can absolutely damage your card. I remember the millions of euro worth of cards killed by furmark a while back. :P

    Run the most demanding game you have for a while and see how high the temps get. You mentioned Fallout New Vegas. That has ambient occlusion which is a resource hog so that will definitely stress your card and give you an idea about what your game temps will be during a long session.

    Most new cards have excellent cooling and wont hit over 70 degrees even under heavy load. Yours is an older model with mediocre cooling but 72 degrees is nothing to worry about. At all.

    I ran two cards in SLI and they would regularly hit 85 degrees for several hours at a time. They worked perfectly for years. I wouldn't worry.

    Yeah I didn't do a stress test in the end, I did hear many disadvantages to it. No intent on dismissing any advice but I like to do mass research before I make a final decision.

    I got Shogun 2 and tried it out and managed to play 3 battles without an interruption. Temperature balanced out between 64 and 69. I'm more at ease now, knowing that the temperatures I'm hitting is fine.

    Thanks lads


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,242 ✭✭✭Moon54


    I'd agree, 72C is not that high, and probably nothing to worry about.

    Don't forget, the recent good weather may have likely raised the ambient temperature in your room as well.

    And maybe check if your PSU has one of those anti-dust mesh filter.
    Mine gets clogged up after only a few weeks and when I clean it my system temps drops a couple of degrees too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,816 ✭✭✭TheChrisD


    I remember my old GTX275 used to idle at around 50-55 (at around 40-50% fan) and under stress would hit 75-80 before promptly giving out and just deciding "fúck it, I'ma stop working".

    Since I upgraded to my 660, it's been idling around 45 and under stress barely breaks 55; with the fan still barely used.


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