Teagasc beef open day in Grange

farm14

Well what did you all think of it today . What were the take home messages? Which systems offer potential?

ltec

The take home message was buy plenty of posts and a round baler for every time the grass gets a bit longer

Miname

1. stocking rate, really impressed with willy treacys talk.
2. flat land is very easy to fence
3. I wont believe everything teagasc do or tell me.
They had an absolute screw of a bull in with the low index cows, maybe they are just trying to emphasis the whole star rating issue but he was more like jersy than a limo, while the better ones were with the better star rated cows.
The other thing i seen was larry goodmans main building contractor is just after finishing a grand new shed for the derrypatrick herd, maybe its just a coincidence.

I said

Keep doing the same thing and expect a different result.

Kevin the sheep

Today was a good day very informative on all aspects of beef enterprise and profit from different ways of bringing stock to finishing what I took away from today is you need a job along with havering sucklers on 100ac and more important irish beef is only a filler on the British supermarket shelves apparently (factory man said this today) so we have to go true all this s...t of in spec cattle peniltys and cut to be fillers on uk shelves PURE INSULT I for one am defiantly getting out of this industry not finishing anything again for them crowd of f...s

farm14

Kevin the sheep wrote: »

Today was a good day very informative on all aspects of beef enterprise and profit from different ways of bringing stock to finishing what I took away from today is you need a job along with havering sucklers on 100ac and more important irish beef is only a filler on the British supermarket shelves apparently (factory man said this today) so we have to go true all this s...t of in spec cattle peniltys and cut to be fillers on uk shelves PURE INSULT I for one am defiantly getting out of this industry not finishing anything again for them crowd of f...s

What about calf to beef systems what sort margins can made did it say? Ah their v little money in sucklers atm even done well

Kevin the sheep

farm14 wrote: »

What about calf to beef systems what sort margins can made did it say? Ah their v little money in sucklers atm even done well

€500 per hec on heifers and steers can't remember bulls wouldn't make you up either 40hc farm €20000 before sub so you would need a job off farm

farm14

Kevin the sheep wrote: »

€500 per hec on heifers and steers can't remember bulls wouldn't make you up either 40hc farm €20000 before sub so you would need a job off farm

That wouldn't be too bad. Did that include own & hired labour?

Kevin the sheep

farm14 wrote: »

That wouldn't be too bad. Did that include own & hired labour?

Don't know if it included them it's fine if you have a off farm job to make up shortfall of living expenses of rearing a family and run a house and forgot to ask what stocking rate it was to achieve this performance ment to take a picture of board but me phone went dead

ganmo

most of the pics of the boards are on agriland

farm14

Kevin the sheep wrote: »

Don't know if it included them it's fine if you have a off farm job to make up shortfall of living expenses of rearing a family and run a house and forgot to ask what stocking rate it was to achieve this performance ment to take a picture of board but me phone went dead

Looked it up. The 21 month early maturing steer system made €998/ha net profit. That included the premiums for those type of cattle. Without premiums the profit was €771/ha. The stocking rate was 200kg organic nitrogen/ha (3.5 cattle/ha) don't think these figures included own & hired labour but they are still decent all the same

rangler1

farm14 wrote: »

Looked it up. The 21 month early maturing steer system made €998/ha profit. That included the premiums for those type of cattle. Without premiums the profit was €771/ha. The stocking rate was 200kg organic nitrogen/ha (3.5 cattle/ha)

Sounds like a system I was promoting earlier in the week, bucket fed calves I presume

farm14

rangler1 wrote: »

Sounds like a system I was promoting earlier in the week, bucket fed calves I presume

Yup. Calf to beef is more profitable than suckler farming