Daily driver Suggestions Sub 2.5 tax petrol max budget €3500

Supergurrier

So im currently in the process of changing car and will need something within afew days once i sell off my current car.

As 525i M-sports are thin on the ground im going to look at Volvo S60's in 2.0T and 2.5T variants and 520i's mainly outside the box suggestions are welcome but i don't want to go to the luxobarge segment (7 series/S80 territory as i don't see the point of having a car that big when it's generally going to be 1 or two people in it.)

Have decided as i do small milage to go for a petrol again and the main priority is comfort as it's going to be a daily hack and nothing more.

What i have seen that i like sofar.

2007 S60 2.0T
http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2007-volvo-s60-full-leather-price-drop/6789371


another one closer to home.
http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/volvo-s60-2007/6553243


Nice example in dublin
http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/07-volvo-s60-automatic-nct-tax/6998150


Cheap Local T5
http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/volvo-s60-2-5-litre-petrol/7036154


Afew 520i M-Sports

Nice example if priced slightly high
http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/bmw-520i-for-sale/7047187


Slightly skanger
http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/bmw-520i-msport/7109931


Lol so many of them are silver

Feel free to link anything i've missed or provide suggestions.

Thanks

Moneymaker

How about an Accord?

S60s are class though, you won't regret it if you buy one.

Idbatterim

e class merc or 525 would be good...

colm_mcm

2.5 S Type should be considered.

Supergurrier

Idbatterim wrote: »

e class merc or 525 would be good...

E class have too many expensive problems and 525 m sports as mentioned above are seriously thin on the ground that arent scrap.

Really taken with the idea of the 1750 T5 in Galway.

Give it a service new plugs k+n panel filter and a remap for some serious sleeper value with ultimate comfort. They have 255bhp or so as standard im sure a remap would see 280 easy.

Supergurrier

OSI wrote: »

If you're gonna get a S60 then a T5 is probably the only one worth looking at.

Reg snob says 07 2.0T

Inner Hooligan says 2.4 T5 Bigger injectors/K+N panel filter and remap.

Supergurrier

OSI wrote: »

The 2.0T is just too underpowered for my liking. Near 80bhp down on the T5. The R is just too much extra money and stuff to break.

I guess. The sleeper value of a no visual mods T5 comfortbus just really appeals.

Plus the autobox will handle the torque a lot better than a manual.

zizou_

Supergurrier wrote: »

I guess. The sleeper value of a no visual mods T5 comfortbus just really appeals.

Plus the autobox will handle the torque a lot better than a manual.

Not sure if that S60 is a T5. It could be a 2.5t which is a good bit down on power.

Supergurrier

zizou_ wrote: »

Not sure if that S60 is a T5. It could be a 2.5t which is a good bit down on power.

You could be right as the pre 2005 T5 was 2.3 only the 2005+ one had the 2.4 engine.

Could well be only a 2.5t with 210bhp or so. Would be happy enough with it for a bit would let me wait for a 2005 awd 2.4 T5 to pop up 6 months to a year down the line.

bazz26

Something a bit leftfield OP?


http://www.driving.ie/used-cars/Subaru/Legacy/2.5-5DR/201421224089800/

Supergurrier

bazz26 wrote: »

Something a bit leftfield OP?


http://www.driving.ie/used-cars/Subaru/Legacy/2.5-5DR/201421224089800/

This was suggested elsewhere in saloon form.

My main concern is I know very little about them.

Still near S60 comfort
Boxer engine
AWD
200-250bhp (I think)

Sounds like a winning combo.

bazz26

My dad's neighbour has a 07 2.0 litre for a number of years and the only issues he has had with it was it needed two new boot struts (got in a breakers yard as Subaru wanted silly money) and now it needs a new DMF and clutch, other than that he loves it. Not sure it would have S60 level comfort but still worth a test drive. Petrol ones go cheap these days and there are plenty of Subaru owners forums out there to find lots of information on them.

Supergurrier

bazz26 wrote: »

My dad's neighbour has a 07 2.0 litre for a number of years and the only issues he has had with it was it needed two new boot struts (got in a breakers yard as Subaru wanted silly money) and now it needs a new DMF and clutch, other than that he loves it. Not sure it would have S60 level comfort but still worth a test drive. Petrol ones go cheap these days and there are plenty of Subaru owners forums out there to find lots of information on them.

168bhp which is lower than i expected from a 2.5, still worth a look maybe, AWD would be the main point along with modern styling, S60 has it licked for comfort refinement and power even in 2.0T form (177bhp) which is suprising.

bazz26

Yeah 168bhp is a bit disappointing alright from a 2.5 but it's a simple enough engine and being a boxer it should have a bit of character, no turbo to worry about either.

If your budget could stretch then this would be worth looking at too, a lot of car for the money:


http://www.driving.ie/used-cars/Lexus/IS250/IS250-EXECUTIVE/201421224089717/

But anyway.

Supergurrier

bazz26 wrote: »

Yeah 168bhp is a bit disappointing alright from a 2.5 but it's a simple enough engine and being a boxer it should have a bit of character, no turbo to worry about either.

If your budget could stretch then this would be worth looking at too, a lot of car for the money:


http://www.driving.ie/used-cars/Lexus/IS250/IS250-EXECUTIVE/201421224089717/

But anyway.

Woeful yokes and almost double my budget

Aunt had one and there is little to recommend them.

Kaiser D

Older model Legacy twin turbo could be picked up well within budget also.

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/subaru-legacy-b4-twin-turbo/7135244

Kaiser D

Also, new model 95 might be worth looking at as an alternative to the facelift S60

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/saab-95-2-0t-linear-sport-bp/6734864

Big Nasty

Those Turbo Volvo's have horrible torque steer.

No M-Sport 523's out there for sale?

Old diesel

I know its not an M sport - and it may be a bit old - but wasn't there a 01 525 estate in the bangernomics section the other day???

edit - here it is

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2001-bmw-525i-touring-auto-nct-05-15/7120770 its not an M sport though

Supergurrier

Big Nasty wrote: »

Those Turbo Volvo's have horrible torque steer.

No M-Sport 523's out there for sale?

No clean ones ATM.

A few clean 520is tho

Big Nasty

Supergurrier wrote: »

No clean ones ATM.

A few clean 520is tho

Don't panic buy anyhow.

Also check out Bimmer forums.

Supergurrier

Big Nasty wrote: »

Don't panic buy anyhow.

Also check out Bimmer forums.

I won't but reason for dumb thread is once ST is gone I will need a new daily within 3 days so

Also saw a 2006 S60/S80 coupe today outside work. Amazing looking yoke.

Didn't know they made a big coupe.

Old diesel

Have a drive in an S60 too before ruling them out.

A lot of people who have them tend to like them.

The V70s were a favourite with Uk police for traffic work for a good few years - so how bad can they be???

Kaiser D

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/volvo-xc70-ocean-race-limited-edition/7096606

Practical AND fast! :P

Big Nasty

I just can't be doing with fwd.

I'd also suggest an A4/6 Avant 1.8T Quattro but unfortunately they're like gold dust hence hold their value incredibly well.

Supergurrier

Kaiser D wrote: »

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/volvo-xc70-ocean-race-limited-edition/7096606

Practical AND fast! :P

Now That's a sleeper.

With the 260bhp T5 too and awd.

Would love an AWD Volvo tbh as BN said a fwd daily doesn't appeal much

Old diesel

Big Nasty wrote: »

I just can't be doing with fwd.

I'd also suggest an A4/6 Avant 1.8T Quattro but unfortunately they're like gold dust hence hold their value incredibly well.

S60 still worth a drive though - imo

Try it - if you don't like it - don't buy

Kaiser D

Supergurrier wrote: »

Now That's a sleeper.

With the 260bhp T5 too and awd.

Would love an AWD Volvo tbh as BN said a fwd daily doesn't appeal much

There you go then, this is basically what you want bar the fact that its an estate. Worth looking at? Its over your part of the country too.

Supergurrier

Kaiser D wrote: »

There you go then, this is basically what you want bar the fact that its an estate. Worth looking at? Its over your part of the country too.

Estate wouldn't put me off at all maybe the awful pre 2004 interior but its a 2k car.

Safeguard the engine oil service new plugs remap and off ya go.

bazz26

MG ZT:


http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/03-mg-zt-190-plus/6900385

Supergurrier

Is the 2.5 on those a rover or BMW unit ?

bazz26

Rover KV6 engine afaik.

Supergurrier

Going off topic for a sec.

Feck you tax

Supergurrier

http://www.pistonheads.com/Gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=23&t=1206500&mid=414062&i=0&nmt=BMW+E39+or+Volvo+S60%3F&mid=414062

Great thread

BorneTobyWilde

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/qick-sale-audi-a6-tfsi/7134561

Supergurrier

Nice car but not paying twice my budget for a gti with a silly dress on

bazz26

30bhp down on a GTi too.

Supergurrier

2005+ cheapish T5 S60's are just impossible to find

Irishcrx

What about one of these , best sounding V6 engine still around, 190 bhp...

http://www.adverts.ie/car/alfa-romeo/166/2002-alfa-romeo-166-for-sale/5459197

Sobanek

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/pristine-05-bmw-525-full-service-history/7089594

A bit over 3.5k, but would be a nice daily

Supergurrier

Would much rather an m sport E39 than an SE E60 tbh

Supergurrier

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/05-volvo-s60-2-0t-nct-03-15/7167660

do the back seats leather look cracked on that ?

Moneymaker

They look a bit rough alright, the owner probably had 2.5 kids all over them for x number of years.

He makes no mention of service history either which would concern me.

Supergurrier

All the nice cars vanish overnight when my car is sold and i need one within a week, typical

Kaiser D

There was a lovely 2001 Volvo S80 T6 at Wilson's Mallusk a few weeks ago. It went for a bit over a grand +fees.

They're about 280 BHP, and they look pretty discreet. It was 2.8 though.

Supergurrier

Too many CC's

Atm it's between this T5

http://www.carzone.ie/search/Volvo/S60/S60-2.3-/201422224259617/advert?channel=CARS

and 2x black with cream interior 2.0T's 05 between 2.5-3k

No NCT on the T5 is a concern though

Supergurrier

Ended up buying a facelift S60.

Locker her up if it suits mods

LightningBolt

Thinking of having a look at this but price seems pretty low in comparison to other similar versions (albeit mileage is probably 80k more on average). http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2008-volvo-s60/7187927

advertsfox

Supergurrier wrote: »

Ended up buying a facelift S60.

Locker her up if it suits mods

Pics?

Supergurrier

Kinda bored if this S60 already ahh well lesson learned.

/looks for an E39 530i