ciaran whelan re carlow

FieldandStream

When trying to explain Carlows poor performance against meath Ciaran whelan said that "hurling was on the up in Carlow". Carlows poor football performance was not caused by a growth in hurling popularity. If Whelo looked closer to home he would see that hurling is on an upward curve in Dublin without any detrimental effect on their footballers.

aidan24326

Carlow footballers have always been useless, it's nothing to do with their (commendable) improvement in hurling.

Lemlin

FieldandStream wrote: »

When trying to explain Carlows poor performance against meath Ciaran whelan said that "hurling was on the up in Carlow". Carlows poor football performance was not caused by a growth in hurling popularity. If Whelo looked closer to home he would see that hurling is on an upward curve in Dublin without any detrimental effect on their footballers.

Whelan is the best pundit RTE have IMO. He talks facts and doesn't look for sound bites like Spillane and Brolly.

I'm not sure he was making the point as you have taken it up. I think he meant hurling is on the up and they should work on football too.

You are actually unfair comparing Dublin and Carlow tbh. Carlow doesn't have the resources, population or funding of Dublin.

paul71

aidan24326 wrote: »

Carlow footballers have always been useless, it's nothing to do with their (commendable) improvement in hurling.

It would be very easy to accept this as an excuse, except there would be one problem in doing so, ie. it is simply not true. It is not a million years since Eire Og were All-Ireland club champions and I would agrue that there are as many good footballers in Carlow as there are in Louth, Wicklow and Longford.

There does however seem to be an issue in transferring the relativity good standard of Club football onto the intercounty stage.

Tombo2001

FieldandStream wrote: »

When trying to explain Carlows poor performance against meath Ciaran whelan said that "hurling was on the up in Carlow". Carlows poor football performance was not caused by a growth in hurling popularity. If Whelo looked closer to home he would see that hurling is on an upward curve in Dublin without any detrimental effect on their footballers.

An argument could be made that a county with 1.3 million people could have both a football team and a hurling team that are on the up, while a county with 50,000 people might struggle to have both a hurling team and a football team on the up.

What it does make a complete joke out of is the notion that Carlows hurling team should not play in the all-ireland because it would come up against stronger teams.

I would completely agree with Whelan, but its really not one that can be addressed. Carlow has zero chance of ever winning a leinster title. How do you motivate the players? Why should they bother? Same goes for most counties in Leinster tbh.

buck65

paul71 wrote: »

It would be very easy to accept this as an excuse, except there would be one problem in doing so, ie. it is simply not true. It is not a million years since Eire Og were All-Ireland club champions and I would agrue that there are as many good footballers in Carlow as there are in Louth, Wicklow and Longford.

There does however seem to be an issue in transferring the relativity good standard of Club football onto the intercounty stage.

Did they not lose 5 of them or something? Club football and hurling mean little at county level. Galway have won a huge amount with 3 or 4 different teams but they still can't win the Liam McCarthy.

Carlow never competed at intercounty level in my memory. A secondary competition would be the right way to go for the likes of them and Clare, Waterford etc.
All weak teams who embarass themselves against the top 9 or 10 teams in Championship.