Cyclist seriously injured in collision with vehicle, one man arrested

Jawgap

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ONE ARREST HAS been made after a cyclist seriously injured in a collision involving a vehicle.

The incident occurred earlier this afternoon on the N81 at Jobstown, Dublin.
Thepedal cyclist, aged in his mid-30s, has been rushed to Tallaght Hospital, where his condition is described as serious.

One male has been arrested by gardaí.

Hopefully, they'll be ok.

Juan More Time

Hopefully the cyclist will make a full recovery.

I love riding my bike, but when I hear of another cyclist being seriously injured or killed as a result of collision with a motor vehicle, it scares me senseless.

monkeyslayer

Came upon this literally moments after it happened, looked to be very serious indeed, have to say I was so shocked and upset by what I saw I nearly turned around and went home, poor guy hope he's gonna be ok

kenco

Could be anyone of us....

I hope and pray they are ok and any injuries whilst serious can be recovered from.

Ole Rodrigo

monkeyslayer wrote: »

Came upon this literally moments after it happened, looked to be very serious indeed, have to say I was so shocked and upset by what I saw I nearly turned around and went home, poor guy hope he's gonna be ok

Was it up near the leisure centre, or on the N81 itself ?

monkeyslayer

discussing case

Greenmachine

Who was arrested the cyclist or the driver.

Lumen

Greenmachine wrote: »

Who was arrested the cyclist or the driver.

That's a very reasonable question your finely honed mind has unearthed. It's quite possible that a cyclist rushed to hospital in a serious condition would have been arrested.

Rackstar

I hope they are ok. I was driving on the N81 today and I have to say it was very dangerous with the amount of cars and cyclists. I noticed around Blessington that there were a lot of leisure cyclists, well cyclists without high vis and on mountain bikes. Also around the lake had the triathlon and the usual club cyclists and then the Sunday drivers. The roads were just crazy, they are treacherous with the volume of cars and cyclists. They aren't suitable for what they are being used for.

Anyway hopefully the injured cyclist makes a full recovery.

Jawgap

Greenmachine wrote: »

Who was arrested the cyclist or the driver.

According to the Irish Times.......

32-year-old driver arrested in connection with the incident in Tallaght this afternoon

Juan More Time

I believe in other european countries with the exception of the UK and Ireland. Any collision between a cyclist and motor vehicle, the driver of the vehicle is automatically assumed to be at fault unless evidence to the contrary can be found.

Beasty

Juan More Time wrote: »

I believe in other european countries with the exception of the UK and Ireland. Any collision between a cyclist and motor vehicle, the driver of the vehicle is automatically assumed to be at fault unless evidence to the contrary can be found.

I know that's the case in some European countru
ies, but it's really not a matter for discussion here. I realise someone has been arrested, but that in itself proves nothing, so before anyone tries to speculate over cause and fault can we please leave that for the relevant authoriities to determine

Greenmachine

Lumen wrote: »

That's a very reasonable question your finely honed mind has unearthed. It's quite possible that a cyclist rushed to hospital in a serious condition would have been arrested.

Why the hell not.

Chips Lovell

@greenmachine. Don't post on this thread again.

evancunny95

I too came across this maybe 25 minutes after it happened.I can only speculate how it happened but months earlier I was heading in the direction of town going through the junction with a green light when a taxi turned turned right just infront of me forcing me to slam on my brakes .

I can only hope the cyclist is ok but his bike carrera was snapped in 2 and the windscreen was smashed in covered in blood.

CramCycle

MOD VOICE: As an arrest has been made and presumably a case is ongoing there should be no more discussion or insinuation on what did or may have happened, any questions PM me, no discussion in thread,

wiz569

ror_74 wrote: »

Was it up near the leisure centre, or on the N81 itself ?

On the N81facing the Jobstown pub at the entrance to the estate

wiz569

ror_74 wrote: »

Was it up near the leisure centre, or on the N81 itself ?

On the N81facing the Jobstown pub at the entrance to the estate

Koobcam

Rackstar wrote: »

I hope they are ok. I was driving on the N81 today and I have to say it was very dangerous with the amount of cars and cyclists. I noticed around Blessington that there were a lot of leisure cyclists, well cyclists without high vis and on mountain bikes. Also around the lake had the triathlon and the usual club cyclists and then the Sunday drivers. The roads were just crazy, they are treacherous with the volume of cars and cyclists. They aren't suitable for what they are being used for.

Anyway hopefully the injured cyclist makes a full recovery.

I agree that the N81 can be dangerous at times, but on the other hand it was a Sunday and it's a really popular cycling route-basically anyone who regularly drives on the road on a Sunday will be aware to keep an eye out for people on bikes. As long as everyone behaves reasonably, then no reason cars and bikes can't share the N81 on Sundays. Personally, I wouldn't recommend cycling there on a weekday at rush hour though... Not sure how high vis vests are relevant to this-assuming the accident happened in daylight hours?

Pretty scary thinking about this as I must have passed the Jobstown Inn hundreds of times on commutes, sunday spins etc...

Oldlegs

Rackstar wrote: »

I hope they are ok. I was driving on the N81 today and I have to say it was very dangerous with the amount of cars and cyclists. I noticed around Blessington that there were a lot of leisure cyclists, well cyclists without high vis and on mountain bikes. Also around the lake had the triathlon and the usual club cyclists and then the Sunday drivers.

Not sure what you are trying to say here ....

The accident happened in Jobstown - a long way from the lakes.

The tri route was on a very wide stretch of road from Valleymount turn down to Hollywood, with the return leg taking the very quiet back road.

A lot of leisure cyclists and leisure drivers - both groups appeared to be well able to deal with each other.

Rackstar wrote: »

The roads were just crazy, they are treacherous with the volume of cars and cyclists. They aren't suitable for what they are being used for.

Which is what ? - Driving, Cycling ...

.ak

Juan More Time wrote: »

Hopefully the cyclist will make a full recovery.

I love riding my bike, but when I hear of another cyclist being seriously injured or killed as a result of collision with a motor vehicle, it scares me senseless.

The only thing I could say is you could replace the word 'cyclist' with 'pedestrian' and it'd be a far more common article, yet we don't get scared senseless walking around the roads and footpaths.

rich.d.berry

Rackstar wrote: »

I hope they are ok. I was driving on the N81 today and I have to say it was very dangerous with the amount of cars and cyclists. I noticed around Blessington that there were a lot of leisure cyclists, well cyclists without high vis and on mountain bikes. Also around the lake had the triathlon and the usual club cyclists and then the Sunday drivers. The roads were just crazy, they are treacherous with the volume of cars and cyclists. They aren't suitable for what they are being used for.

Anyway hopefully the injured cyclist makes a full recovery.

I fully agree with you that the roads around Blessington lakes and Glendalough were never designed with parking in mind. On a pleasant summer's weekend it can be crazy with cars abandoned on narrow roads making them more dangerous and contributing to frustration from all road users. In my opinion, it would do no harm for an garda to do the occasional blitz and have vehicles towed which are causing a hazard.

There are so many selfish/lazy motorists who absolutely have to park as close to the place they want to get to and they don't give a damn about how much they inconvenience/endanger others. Surely, if you're going for a walk anyway, a few hundred extra metres of walking is no problem to deal with.

I'm not sure what non hi-vis wearing cyclists on mountain bikes have to do with anything?

My wishes for a full recovery also go to the injured cyclist.

seamus

rich.d.berry wrote: »

I fully agree with you that the roads around Blessington lakes and Glendalough were never designed with parking in mind. On a pleasant summer's weekend it can be crazy with cars abandoned on narrow roads making them more dangerous and contributing to frustration from all road users. In my opinion, it would do no harm for an garda to do the occasional blitz and have vehicles towed which are causing a hazard.

I wonder if it would be worth trialling a "parking by exception" system rather than a "parking by default" one. That is, make it illegal to park on any road (i.e. actually in the driving lane(s)) unless it is specifically permitted.

It's a bit of an anachronism that you are permitted by default to just stop and abandon your vehicle on an open road, blocking up the lane for traffic trying to pass. The roads are just far too busy for that kind of carry on, even in rural areas.

(Sorry, I realise that's a bit off topic)

dave_o_brien

seamus wrote: »

I wonder if it would be worth trialling a "parking by exception" system rather than a "parking by default" one. That is, make it illegal to park on any road (i.e. actually in the driving lane(s)) unless it is specifically permitted.

It's a bit of an anachronism that you are permitted by default to just stop and abandon your vehicle on an open road, blocking up the lane for traffic trying to pass. The roads are just far too busy for that kind of carry on, even in rural areas.

(Sorry, I realise that's a bit off topic)

I might be over simplifying it, but we live in a common law system whereby it is assumed that you are free to do what you want unless it is prohibited. Civil law operates by the assumption that you have freedoms which are defined b the state.

In Ireland, you break the law by doing something defined as illegal. In civil law countries, you break the law by doing something that is not defined as legal.

Best wishes to the injured party, I hope they're ok.

EDIT: I agree with you about the "Parking by definition" proposal. I dislike much of common law, and believe civil law to be a preferable system.

Qualitymark

Probably not the place to discuss this… but I'd be against the 'parking by definition' idea purely because of the cost of all the road signage. Considering that we can't even label every road in Dublin on every corner, where France labels even tiny rural lanes in the deep backwoods, I can't see it happening. It would be possible to do it electronically, by, say, labelling all roads on Google, Apple, TomTom, etc maps, but even that would be a huge job, and it would be unfair to people who don't have smartphones or the like.

tunney

Rackstar wrote: »

I hope they are ok. I was driving on the N81 today and I have to say it was very dangerous with the amount of cars and cyclists. I noticed around Blessington that there were a lot of leisure cyclists, well cyclists without high vis and on mountain bikes. Also around the lake had the triathlon and the usual club cyclists and then the Sunday drivers. The roads were just crazy, they are treacherous with the volume of cars and cyclists. They aren't suitable for what they are being used for.

Anyway hopefully the injured cyclist makes a full recovery.

Why the hell good is a hi viz during the day???? Either the driver looks or they do not.

Rackstar

I think my comment on high vis is being picked up incorrectly, I don't think I was clear. I wasn't trying to suggest the cyclist wasn't visible. Usually on the roads I would see cyclists that are wearing brightly coloured cycling jerseys etc with their club name on (saw lots with red Clondalkin gear on sun morning in Blessington). The groups on the mountain bikes were not wearing cycling jerseys and seemed very shakey on the bikes (maybe part of a day out). All I was trying to do was illustrate the volume of cyclists and cars on the N81.