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Should pets be forced to take up employment?

  • 15-06-2014 1:00pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,593 ✭✭✭✭


    They cost us all money, but yet pay no taxes.

    They sit on their backside (apart from fish and the like) all day while we work.

    They could do certain jobs.

    Some pets are nocturnal, and could work at night.

    At a young age they would be ready to work.

    It would keep them off our streets (apart from those employed as lolly pop cats)

    They can be trained.

    I'm aware that some pets already do work.

    What job could your pet do?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,161 ✭✭✭frag420


    Lets start by making dogs bring blind people for walkies in the park!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,473 ✭✭✭Wacker The Attacker


    I'd be more in favour of punching them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,516 ✭✭✭Outkast_IRE


    My dog deters burglars, and has been doing it successfully for over 8 years now, also deters cats.Pretty good at alerting me if someone is coming in the driveway too. She earns her keep in my opinion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16 mgcf81


    I'd be more in favour of punching them.


    Dogs or blind people?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,473 ✭✭✭Wacker The Attacker


    mgcf81 wrote: »
    Dogs or blind people?

    both but only after I've given some cats a good kicking


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,593 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Crinklewood


    frag420 wrote: »
    Lets start by making dogs bring blind people for walkies in the park!!

    That's why I referenced the pets that already work in my post.

    Another plus for pets, is that some are more intelligent that people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,094 ✭✭✭wretcheddomain


    Pets are already involved in employment - they provide jobs for the geriatric population by kindly providing excrement that needs to be cleaned up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,097 ✭✭✭kiffer


    My cat kills a shocking amount of mice... though there was that training period when she wouldn't kill them just brung them home and release them un injured in the sitting room.
    Now she just kills and eats them.
    She's a little murder machine.

    In order to pay taxes we'd have to pay them... cash.
    at the moment they are more like slaves.
    they don't get paid for the things they do for us...
    Providing company or killing vermin or guarding us while we sleep.

    If you want to tax them then they'll need paying.
    What would minimum wage be for a Gerbil?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,593 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Crinklewood


    My dog deters burglars, and has been doing it successfully for over 8 years now, also deters cats.Pretty good at alerting me if someone is coming in the driveway too. She earns her keep in my opinion.

    How much tax has your dog paid whilst doing this job over the past eight years?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,097 ✭✭✭kiffer


    How much tax has your dog paid whilst doing this job over the past eight years?

    Does it need to pay benefit in kind for the use of the kennel?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 740 ✭✭✭Alf. A. Male


    Cats are too busy being in charge and conspiring against us.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,520 ✭✭✭✭McDermotX


    Dog provides company, early warning security etc etc, and doesn't ask for any money.
    Wild hedgehog out the back cuts down the number of slugs hanging around, and costs next to nothing to keep
    IN FACT, the only one who doesn't do feck all is, unsurprisingly, the cat.

    She thinks I'm impressed whenever she appears at the back door with a dead bird. I know damn well she didn't kill it, just happened across it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,593 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Crinklewood


    kiffer wrote: »
    My cat kills a shocking amount of mice... though there was that training period when she wouldn't kill them just brung them home and release them un injured in the sitting room.
    Now she just kills and eats them.
    She's a little murder machine.

    In order to pay taxes we'd have to pay them... cash.I
    at the moment they are more like slaves.
    they don't get paid for the things they do for us...
    Providing company or killing vermin or guarding us while we sleep.

    If you want to tax them then they'll need paying.
    What would minimum wage be for a Gerbil?

    Depends on how much the gerbil is paid and if it's full time or part time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,012 ✭✭✭Plazaman


    I have several dogs on wheels out the back generating electricity for me 24/7. Sure I lose about 3 or 4 a year through exhaustion but if they straightened up and fly right they wouldn't be dropping dead and making me miss my stories on the telly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,593 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Crinklewood


    kiffer wrote: »
    Does it need to pay benefit in kind for the use of the kennel?

    What are the dimensions?

    Anything over 4 foot by 5 foot should be taxed


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,009 ✭✭✭umop.episdn


    Hamsters make wonderful sexual partners....so I'm told, perhaps we could put them to work & ease the escorts heavy work load?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,097 ✭✭✭kiffer


    Depends on how much the gerbil is paid and if it's full time or part time.

    Well... its job is to entertain and enchant children of all ages and so on...
    Running it its wheel and chewing things for our entertainment.
    obviously, it's a gerbil full time... even though we may only watch it or play with it for a short period of time each day it is on call pretty much 24/7...
    Clearly a full time position.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,094 ✭✭✭wretcheddomain


    They cost us all money, but yet pay no taxes.

    They sit on their backside (apart from fish and the like) all day while we work.

    They could do certain jobs.

    Some pets are nocturnal, and could work at night.

    At a young age they would be ready to work.

    It would keep them off our streets (apart from those employed as lolly pop cats)

    They can be trained.

    I'm aware that some pets already do work.

    Stop talking about our politicians in such a scurrilous way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,285 ✭✭✭✭RobbingBandit


    Say it with me OP, Meth is a hell of a drug. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,097 ✭✭✭kiffer


    What are the dimensions?

    Anything over 4 foot by 5 foot should be taxed

    And of course they should be paying rent no doubt... and the owner then would have to pay tax on the income from that rent.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,593 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Crinklewood


    kiffer wrote: »
    Well... its job is to entertain and enchant children of all ages and so on...
    Running it its wheel and chewing things for our entertainment.
    obviously, it's a gerbil full time... even though we may only watch it or play with it for a short period of time each day it is on call pretty much 24/7...
    Clearly a full time position.

    Entertainment jobs would be tax free (excluding the sex industry)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,593 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Crinklewood


    kiffer wrote: »
    And of course they should be paying rent no doubt... and the owner then would have to pay tax on the income from that rent.

    Now you're with me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,097 ✭✭✭kiffer


    Entertainment jobs would be tax free (excluding the sex industry)

    Surely only creative entertainment jobs have those tax deals?
    What about those ferrets that are used to run cables?
    What should they be paid?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,593 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Crinklewood


    kiffer wrote: »
    Surely only creative entertainment jobs have those tax deals?
    What about those ferrets that are used to run cables?
    What should they be paid?

    Id say the example that you gave is a creative role.

    How much would it take a human to do the same job?

    Take seven percent off this, and that is your answer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,097 ✭✭✭kiffer


    Id say the example that you gave is a creative role.

    How much would it take a human to do the same job?

    Take seven percent off this, and that is your answer.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/582123.stm
    Hmmm I don't think humans can crawl through tiny pipes...


    At the very least they need to be getting minimum wage.
    ...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,593 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Crinklewood


    kiffer wrote: »
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/582123.stm
    Hmmm I don't think humans can crawl through tiny pipes...

    In that case the ferret can name its price.

    Thanks for providing another reason for pets working.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,635 ✭✭✭Pumpkinseeds


    Our cats amuse us, kill mice/rats and guard us while we're asleep, that's more than earning their keep:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,009 ✭✭✭umop.episdn


    Our cats amuse us, kill mice/rats and guard us while we're asleep, that's more than earning their keep:)

    Your cat pisses in your muesli when you're not watching, little fecker deserves to be on the dole queue


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,635 ✭✭✭Pumpkinseeds


    Your cat pisses in your muesli when you're not watching, little fecker deserves to be on the dole queue
    I don't eat muesli:D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,009 ✭✭✭umop.episdn


    I don't eat muesli:D

    And now you know why ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,419 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    kiffer wrote: »
    Surely only creative entertainment jobs have those tax deals?
    What about those ferrets that are used to run cables?
    What should they be paid?

    Sir ,
    We used to have a supply of cable mice to pull cables through pipework , twas a sight to behold , a working mouse , all got fcuked up when they became unionised.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    In some countries police sniffer dogs are on a wage get bonuses are are taxed for their treachery


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,593 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Crinklewood


    In some countries police sniffer dogs are on a wage get bonuses are are taxed for their treachery

    Probably successful countries.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,593 ✭✭✭DoozerT6


    That's it - I'm sending my budgie down the mines.

    Lazy fecker, sitting in his cage with his head under his wing.....

    GET OUT THERE AND EARN YOUR KEEP YOU SPONGER!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 464 ✭✭The Th!ng


    Animals > Politicians.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,133 ✭✭✭FloatingVoter


    My cat is on LinkedIn and has had more job offers than I've had. Some from multinationals that should know that a four-legged environmental waste consultant is not serious about seeking employment.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,959 ✭✭✭gugleguy


    Small mammals like rats and mice could be employed to test true usefulness of cats employed to catch them. And be given danger money.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,537 ✭✭✭Arthur Beesley


    They cost us all money, but yet pay no taxes.

    They sit on their backside (apart from fish and the like) all day while we work.

    They could do certain jobs.

    Some pets are nocturnal, and could work at night.

    At a young age they would be ready to work.

    It would keep them off our streets (apart from those employed as lolly pop cats)

    They can be trained.

    I'm aware that some pets already do work.

    What job could your pet do?

    Stopped reading after first line. Too much like junkies.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,563 ✭✭✭Adamantium


    I've had a pet bird. I'd imagine it'd great combing the streets for bad toupee's and roughing citizens up.

    "Yippee ki yay mother falcon!"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,894 ✭✭✭UCDVet


    My dog deters burglars, and has been doing it successfully for over 8 years now, also deters cats.Pretty good at alerting me if someone is coming in the driveway too. She earns her keep in my opinion.

    Eh - a dog is more likely to be stolen than to stop a burglar. If you are home, the dog might give you an early warning bark; but they're a lot less effective than a normal home security system.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 226 ✭✭fearrua


    I've actually brought in a team of hamsters that I've set up to run on their wheels in shifts to power the house.

    Saved loads on electricity.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,516 ✭✭✭Outkast_IRE


    UCDVet wrote: »
    Eh - a dog is more likely to be stolen than to stop a burglar. If you are home, the dog might give you an early warning bark; but they're a lot less effective than a normal home security system.
    We still have an alarm system, it would hard to steal a dog around here, plenty of retired neighbors and housewives who are alert and watching anytime there is a noise out of the ordinary its an old housing estate where everybody knows one another. To be honest i have never heard of a dog theft from a house in my area, so we are lucky in that regard.

    People who steal dogs generally arent the same ones who burgle houses, plenty of gardai would tell ya that they generally avoid houses with dogs as there are easier targets.

    Only time the house was ever robbed was 20 years ago and they drugged the dog, vet said we were lucky the dose didnt kill him.


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