Claiming Irish Citizenship

Recondite49

Dear all,

I'm a British Citizen.

My mother was born in France to Irish parents. She's an Irish Citizen and holds a current Irish passport.

Her own parents wee old Irish farming folk.

From what I could tell from the Citizenship website, a person with both an Irish parent and grandparent can claim Citizenship in the State provided they pay a fee of 900 Euro and can present the relevant documentation.

The issue I have here is that I am estranged from my mother and my grandparents are deceased. I have a photocopy of Mum's Irish passport and birth certificate. I also have a photocopy of the Parish records for my Grandmother's Church where she was born.

What I'd like to know is whether these will be sufficient or will my mother need to sign anything else? I imagine they could just look her up from her passport number without consulting her? I really don't want her involved in the process any more than is necessary.

Twiki

You'll need to register on the Foreign Births Register and provide a variety of supporting documents as part of that process. It's all outlined here...

https://www.dfa.ie/passports-citizenship/citizenship/born-abroad/registering-a-foreign-birth/

mrsbyrne

You are just applying for an Irish passport in the normal way . You are ticking the citizenship box which indicates that you are Irish born outside Ireland of Irish parents. You can get any Certificates you need including your mothers at any HSE Registry office in Ireland irregardless of the place of birth death or marriage as long as it was in Ireland.. It will cost you €85 for the passport. Read the passport notes carefully and supply all the documents. Your mother need have no involvement whatsoever.
Applying for Citizenship in your case is totally unnecessary.
The link in the post above this is not applicable to you. This link is.
https://www.dfa.ie/passports-citizenship/how-to-apply-for-a-passport/ireland/born-abroad-to-irish-born-parent/adult-first-time/anytime/more-than-10-working-days/

Recondite49

mrsbyrne wrote: »

You are just applying for an Irish passport in the normal way . You are ticking the citizenship box which indicates that you are Irish born outside Ireland of Irish parents. You can get any Certificates you need including your mothers at any HSE Registry office in Ireland irregardless of the place of birth death or marriage as long as it was in Ireland.. It will cost you €85 for the passport. Read the passport notes carefully and supply all the documents. Your mother need have no involvement whatsoever.
Applying for Citizenship in your case is totally unnecessary.
The link in the post above this is not applicable to you. This link is.
https://www.dfa.ie/passports-citizenship/how-to-apply-for-a-passport/ireland/born-abroad-to-irish-born-parent/adult-first-time/anytime/more-than-10-working-days/

Thanks Mrs Byrne, sadly I'm not sure this would apply to me as my Mother was born in France despite being an Irish Citizen.

Dangel4x4

Recondite49 wrote: »

Thanks Mrs Byrne, sadly I'm not sure this would apply to me as my Mother was born in France despite being an Irish Citizen.

Have you contacted the Passport Office?

www. dfa.ie/passports-citizenship/

Passport Office
Frederick Buildings
Molesworth Street
Dublin 2
Ireland

Tel:+353 (0)1 671 1633
Fax:+353 (0)1 671 1092
passportdublin @ dfa.ie

Passport Office
1a South Mall
Cork
Ireland

Tel:+353 21 494 4700
passportcork @ dfa.ie

mrsbyrne

Recondite49 wrote: »

Thanks Mrs Byrne, sadly I'm not sure this would apply to me as my Mother was born in France despite being an Irish Citizen.

If your grandparent was born in Ireland that will do just as well.

GerardKeating

Recondite49 wrote: »

Dear all,

I'm a British Citizen.

My mother was born in France to Irish parents. She's an Irish Citizen and holds a current Irish passport.

Her own parents wee old Irish farming folk.

From what I could tell from the Citizenship website, a person with both an Irish parent and grandparent can claim Citizenship in the State provided they pay a fee of 900 Euro and can present the relevant documentation.

The issue I have here is that I am estranged from my mother and my grandparents are deceased. I have a photocopy of Mum's Irish passport and birth certificate. I also have a photocopy of the Parish records for my Grandmother's Church where she was born.

What I'd like to know is whether these will be sufficient or will my mother need to sign anything else? I imagine they could just look her up from her passport number without consulting her? I really don't want her involved in the process any more than is necessary.

The fee of €950 euro is for Naturalisation, which is a process for those whom are not citizens to acquire citizenship.

Based on your comments above, you are (via the fact that your mother was an Irish Citizen) since birth an Irish Citizen.

You do not need your mother cooperation to obtain an Irish passport unless you are under 18 years of ago.

All you need is your Birth Cert and your Mothers Birth Cert. If your mothers name if "different" on the two birth certs, you would need some additional documentation to "explain" the difference.

GerardKeating

mrsbyrne wrote: »

If your grandparent was born in Ireland that will do just as well.

But there would be a slight/subtle difference (which might not matter to the OP).

Claiming citizenship via the mother means the OP was a citizenship since birth, but claiming via the Grandparent's would only give citizenship from the time of the application, which would have an effect on children (if any) the OP has.

If they claim via the grandparents, any children would not be citizen, since when they were born, the OP was not a citizen, but claiming via the mother would ensure they were citizens. Which might be all academic if the OP is not yet a parent.

Recondite49

GerardKeating wrote: »

But there would be a slight/subtle difference (which might not matter to the OP).

Claiming citizenship via the mother means the OP was a citizenship since birth, but claiming via the Grandparent's would only give citizenship from the time of the application, which would have an effect on children (if any) the OP has.

If they claim via the grandparents, any children would not be citizen, since when they were born, the OP was not a citizen, but claiming via the mother would ensure they were citizens. Which might be all academic if the OP is not yet a parent.

Hi Gerard,

Thanks for your post. You're absolutely right - as I understand it though since my mother isn't Irish born while still an Irish citizen, my own citizenship will only be effective from the date where I'm sworn in - don't have kids yet which is one of the reasons I want to do this beforehand!