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Unemployed Teachers coming together in Tipp

  • 13-06-2014 11:52pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 545 ✭✭✭


    I just heard today that a group of 6 unemployed teachers set up a grinds school in my town this week, one of them has converted her garage into four mini classrooms for them to do grinds out of so they can book up with grinds and use it as a regular source of income.

    I think its a great idea, might inspire a few more around to keep the heads up with employment being down and that.

    There is hope :)


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 344 ✭✭lennyloulou


    they should declare this to revenue...I read an article on the newspaper last week regarding revenue following up more on grinds come next sept onwards.

    in my school there are so many young teachers on small hours e.g. 13hours a week, that give their time FREE after school to entire classes within the school building, principal is delighted at this obvious commitment and parents thrilled not to be paying anything. the poor 23yr old teacher is slaving away. unpaid for these extra grinds, trying to keep their rents paid , fuel in the car to come to work and their overall aim is to get a few extra hours next school year!
    I feel so sorry for young teachers starting out!
    By the way is your story in north or south tipp


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭evolving_doors


    I'm in two minds with the extra classes thing.

    Makes other teachers look lazy
    Sets a precedent/bad feeling amongst other staff
    Why Can't you get your course covered in your regular classes?
    Students who can't go are at a disadvantage
    No pay
    Can get taken for granted by students/principal
    What about student burnout, social time, rest time

    I could understand the odd few coming up to exams though, or doing an extra subject (applied maths is a common one).

    But as regards the grinds school thing, ya go for it as long as ya pay yer taxes


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,689 ✭✭✭✭TheDriver


    Unfortunately its always the Principal gets blamed for extra classes in the school. I personally hate the idea because it adds pressure to both colleagues and students however I find its the teachers themselves that set up this routine. One French teacher brings them in for extra oral classes and the Spanish teacher is under pressure. Its also the permanent teachers who do it. I would prefer if none of it happened but of course have to be seen to be thinking its a great idea. So don't always think its the Principal who promotes it, it most certainly is not! (I appreciate there are some interesting Principals out there who suck every bit of life out of you).
    Also these extra classes also give an impression that extra classes are needed and hence grinds schools make a fortune. How many people have said "they can't do project maths" and pay for grinds. Unfortunately the reality is they can't do HL maths anyways but the extra points are too attractive.

    The grinds will be watched by revenue so these teachers mightn't earn as much as they think. Grinds can be lucrative if a) your smart at your organisation and b) your experienced with a good name. I am not convinced this venture will make them a worthwhile income......


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭evolving_doors


    should be interesting alright to see if it develops.
    Would they be entitled to social welfare if they set up their own business and it fails! Unless they have it under their grannies name or something!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 545 ✭✭✭Pinkycharm


    they should declare this to revenue...I read an article on the newspaper last week regarding revenue following up more on grinds come next sept onwards.

    in my school there are so many young teachers on small hours e.g. 13hours a week, that give their time FREE after school to entire classes within the school building, principal is delighted at this obvious commitment and parents thrilled not to be paying anything. the poor 23yr old teacher is slaving away. unpaid for these extra grinds, trying to keep their rents paid , fuel in the car to come to work and their overall aim is to get a few extra hours next school year!
    I feel so sorry for young teachers starting out!
    By the way is your story in north or south tipp

    North Tipp. I know its awful. I remember doing the same 3 days a weeks and doing supervised study the other days to make me look invaluable. Had extra curricular on top of it. After looking into it more, it's all young teachers under 30 of them and apparently booked up well for the summer.


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