Building PC for first time.. 1100e budget.

Fergulbops

Hi All,

I've been searching for a while + thinking about getting a new gaming PC. the games I usually play are Starcraft 2, Battlefield 3, and usually any new games that come out like watch dogs/etc.

Heres the hardware I was looking to get from hardwareversand:

Sorry I cant put URLS

CPU - i7 4790
Sockel+1150/165485/Inteurol+Core+i7-4790+Tray.article

MOBO - ASRock Z87 Pro3 Socket 1150
ASRock+Z87+Pro3%2C+Sockel+1150%2C+ATX.article

RAM Kingston 2x8GB 1600MHZ DDR3 non-ecc
1600+Low+Voltage/109476/16+GB-Kit+Kingston+1600MHz+DDR3+Non-ECC+CL9+DIMM++XMP.article

CASE Cooltek ATX midi tower
Cooltek+X1%2C+Midi+Tower%2C+ATX%2C+schwarz%2C+ohne+Netzteil.article

GPU Inno3d Geforce GTX 770 HerculeZ 2000
Inno3D+GeForce+GTX+770+HerculeZ+2000%2C+2GB+GDDR5%2C+2x+DVI%2C+HDMI%2C+DisplayPort.article

PSU Be Quiet Pure power L8 530W
be+quiet%21+Pure+Power+L8+CM+530W.article

SSD Samsung SSD 250GB Sata 6GBps
Solid-State-Disk/85974/Samsung+SSD+840+EVO+Basic+250GB+SATA+6Gb+s.article

Chipfan ThermalRight HR02 Macho PCGH
Intel+AMD/78119/Thermalright+HR-02+Macho+PCGH-Edition.article

Win7HP64b Windows 7 64bit
OEM+Microsoft+Windows+7+Home+Premium+64-bit+inkl.+Vorinstallation.article

I was thinking about getting dual monitors set as well but that'll be in the future sometime. probally 2x Benq 24inch..

Any thoughts/Recommendations for swapping anything out?

Your oppinions are greatly appreciated

Ive opted for them to put it together and activate windows also, it brings the total to 1108 euro.

Thanks,
Fergulbops!

DERPY DERPFACE

You can get Windows for 10 euro on reddit software swap. You could then drop the cpu down to the i5 4690/k and up the gpu to the r9 290.

multimate

I'd get this if I was you.
HV20T46KDE Intel Core i5-4670K Tray,3,4 GHZ, 6MB Cache, LGA 1150, VGA 197,39 €
HV1143ICDE Gigabyte GA-Z97-HD3, Sockel 1150, ATX 94,76 €
HV30TH08DE Thermalright True Spirit 90 M Rev.A 23,63 €
HV20MI48DE 8GB-Kit Crucial Ballistix Sport Series DDR3-1600, CL9 64,34 €
HV203O15DE Corsair Carbide Series 200R, ATX, ohne Netzteil 53,28 €
HVR500CXDE Corsair Builder Serie CX500 V3 Non-Modular 80+ Bronze, 500 Watt 52,28 €
HV12SEV2DE Samsung SSD 840 EVO Basic 250GB SATA 6Gb/s 109,99 €
HVZPCDE Rechner - Zusammenbau 11,00 €

Total value: 606,67 €
The processor should be the same price as the i5 4690k when it comes out so it's just there for reference.
Then buy this for amazon. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sapphire-TRI-X-Graphics-Card-PCI-E/dp/B00HFA44YQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1402678247&sr=8-1&keywords=r9+290

Should perform great in gaming and overclock a small bit as well, otherwise maybe get the noctua cooler. This build will allow you to get those dual benq's and also allow you to upgrade in the future with a futureproof motherboard and your not splashing it all now. 8gb ram is more than enough!

SterlingArcher

You have a regular I7 ,not The overclocking "k"version. Yet you picked an overclocking motherboard "z87"(z87 is last year's, z97 is the newer boards).

You should be getting the newer "97" board. A h97 will do as like I said the "z"97 boards are aimed at overclocking.

An Asus h97 pro board will suffice about 87 euro using Geizhals.de discount (if you are using hardwareversand) and drop 8 gigs of ram. 16 is overkill for gaming. Use the savings from the board change and less ram to upgrade the card to a gtx 780.

So h97 board, 8 gigs of ram, and get the gtx 780. You will be gaming at ultra most games on 1080p.

Fergulbops

DERPY DERPFACE wrote: »

You can get Windows for 10 euro on reddit software swap. You could then drop the cpu down to the i5 4690/k and up the gpu to the r9 290.

Never heard of that reddit.. is it legit?? seems wierd that you can get a copy of something like that so cheap.

Fergulbops

multimate wrote: »

I'd get this if I was you.
HV20T46KDE Intel Core i5-4670K Tray,3,4 GHZ, 6MB Cache, LGA 1150, VGA 197,39 €
HV1143ICDE Gigabyte GA-Z97-HD3, Sockel 1150, ATX 94,76 €
HV30TH08DE Thermalright True Spirit 90 M Rev.A 23,63 €
HV20MI48DE 8GB-Kit Crucial Ballistix Sport Series DDR3-1600, CL9 64,34 €
HV203O15DE Corsair Carbide Series 200R, ATX, ohne Netzteil 53,28 €
HVR500CXDE Corsair Builder Serie CX500 V3 Non-Modular 80+ Bronze, 500 Watt 52,28 €
HV12SEV2DE Samsung SSD 840 EVO Basic 250GB SATA 6Gb/s 109,99 €
HVZPCDE Rechner - Zusammenbau 11,00 €

Total value: 606,67 €
The processor should be the same price as the i5 4690k when it comes out so it's just there for reference.
Then buy this for amazon.

Should perform great in gaming and overclock a small bit as well, otherwise maybe get the noctua cooler. This build will allow you to get those dual benq's and also allow you to upgrade in the future with a futureproof motherboard and your not splashing it all now. 8gb ram is more than enough!

HV20T469DE Intel Core i5-4690 Tray 187,23 €
HV1135RJDE ASRock B85 Pro4, Sockel 1150, ATX 62,99 €
HVALTWZCDE Kingston HyperX 8GB 1866MHz DDR3 CL10 DIMM 82,28 €
HV0656252901DE Special item: Antec One, ATX, ohne Netzteil 46,66 €
HVR630L8DE be quiet! Pure Power L8 CM 630 Watt 80,24 €
HV0648583901DE Special item: PowerColor Radeon R9 290 OC, 4GB GDDR5, 2x DVI, HDMI, DisplayPort 309,29 €
HV12CZS9DE Crucial M500 240GB SATA 6GB/s 6,4CM (2,5") 7mm 95,93 €
HVZPCDE Rechner - Zusammenbau 11,00 €

Total value: 875,62 €

Whatcha tink? Is the amazon one you linked better than that one on hdwareversand? Thanks

jabberwock

couple of small changes.

H97 - no point getting a devil canyon chip and not get it's appropriate board.
You forgot a Heatsink in your last setup.
PSU slight change
They won't ship it with the cooler attached since it's a monster.

I just ordered stuff yesterday and my shipping was only €11.99 btw. Might be because it was a big order but might be a consideration as well.


Item|Price
Intel Core i5-4690 Tray|€187.23
Thermalright HR-02 Macho Rev.A (BW)|€38.71
ASRock H97 Pro4, Sockel 1150, ATX|€76.64
Special item: Antec One, ATX, ohne Netzteil|€46.66
Crucial M500 240GB SATA 6GB/s 6,4CM (2,5") 7mm|€95.93
Special item: PowerColor Radeon R9 290 OC, 4GB GDDR5, 2x DVI, HDMI, DisplayPort|€309.29
Rechner - Zusammenbau|€11.00
Kingston HyperX 8GB 1866MHz DDR3 CL10 DIMM|€82.28
Corsair CS Series Modular CS650M 650W ATX 2.3|€74.99
Shipping|€18.99
Total|€941.72


Fluffy Script for table above. http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056303834

Fergulbops

jabberwock wrote: »

couple of small changes.

H97 - no point getting a devil canyon chip and not get it's appropriate board.
You forgot a Heatsink in your last setup.
PSU slight change
They won't ship it with the cooler attached since it's a monster.

I just ordered stuff yesterday and my shipping was only €11.99 btw. Might be because it was a big order but might be a consideration as well.


Fluffy Script for table above.

Great thanks a million -
Any thoughts on NVidia vs ATI?
Heard most people prefer NVidia, but ... is there really any difference in brand??

Thanks again.

jabberwock

slight changes + http://geizhals.de/ discounts

Item|Price|
Corsair CS Series Modular CS650M 650W ATX 2.3|€73.01|
Intel Core i5-4690 Tray|€179.70|
Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO - Intel/AMD|€27.88|As good as the macho and slightly cheaper
ASRock H97 Pro4, Sockel 1150, ATX|€71.60|
Antec One, ATX, ohne Netzteil|€47.80|not the special but nearly the same price with the geizhals discount
Crucial M500 240GB SATA 6GB/s 6,4CM (2,5") 7mm|€90.42|
Special item: PowerColor Radeon R9 290 OC, 4GB GDDR5, 2x DVI, HDMI, DisplayPort|€309.29|
Rechner - Zusammenbau|€11.00|
8GB HyperX FURY White 1866MHz DDR3 CL10|€68.99|not the same as you linked before but same brand.
Shipping|€18.99|
Total|€898.68|

jabberwock

I would say one thing about the card you choose, no so much AMD/nVidia but about the single fan. It can and will most likely howl at full load.

Fergulbops

jabberwock wrote: »

I would say one thing about the card you choose, no so much AMD/nVidia but about the single fan. It can and will most likely howl at full load.

Again, thanks a million.. OK i'll have a look to see if I can find something similar price wise/power wise + have 2/3 fans.

Thanks!

jabberwock

The 290 is comparable with the 780 afaik.
Looking like about 330ish for a 2 fan R9 290.
I have a powercolor 7870 and it's the one thing I dislike about it. That 1 fan even at 40% is noticeable.

somemore savings if you are not so concerns with who makes stuff.
RAM http://www.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=125972&agid=1193&pvid=4p3uxb0pi_hwhqcg00&ref=13

Fergulbops

jabberwock wrote: »

The 290 is comparable with the 780 afaik.
Looking like about 330ish for a 2 fan R9 290.
I have a powercolor 7870 and it's the one thing I dislike about it. That 1 fan even at 40% is noticeable.

somemore savings if you are not so concerns with who makes stuff.

This is fantastic, thanks a million..

Ill go with the 3 fan R9 290 then so:
/4096+MB/153419/Gigabyte+Radeon+R9+290+WindForce+3X%2C+4GB+GDDR5%2C+2x+DVI%2C+HDMI%2C+DisplayPort.article

(still cant post links sry lol)

I'll probally order around wednesday if anyone else wants to chime in Thanks again Jabberwock!

jabberwock

So just to make sure you understand the whole http://geizhals.de/ discounts thing.

What you do is you make your computer on HWVS. I love using the PC Configurator and once you have everything set up you fire on over to http://geizhals.de/.

Here you use the name from the HWVS page for the items in your basket. You open up the page and scroll down to find the HWVS link. click on the link to open the page.

You just got yourself a discount.

It's based off cookies so you will keep that discount showing for a while. (not sure to be honest). Be careful if you go back to double check stuff. Yesterday I actually had a item rise in price while I was getting everything together.

Card you mentioned http://www.hardwareversand.de/en/4096+MB/153419/Gigabyte+Radeon+R9+290+WindForce+3X%2C+4GB+GDDR5%2C+2x+DVI%2C+HDMI%2C+DisplayPort.article

Card on Geizhals http://geizhals.de/gigabyte-radeon-r9-290-windforce-3x-gv-r929wf3-4gd-a1076270.html

You should first see it as ~360
After going through Geizhal it drops to ~346
About a 4% discount.

Also to get Fluffy script to work you need to split a build before using it. You get the prices and all then.

Sniipe

Fergulbops - if you get this machine will the specs be enough to run SC2 at the maximum everything?

Fergulbops

Sniipe wrote: »

Fergulbops - if you get this machine will the specs be enough to run SC2 at the maximum everything?

Probally not in 4v4.... lags like hell.

Sniipe

what sort of spec is required for 4v4 full everything?

Fergulbops

Not a clue man ..

Fergulbops

Hi,

Sorry to revive the thread but its been tight for money this past while and i'm only getting round to making the order now..

Can someone please review this on HWVS /pcconfigurator/meinpc/1220518 and let me know if anything should be swapped out. Had to change a few things because of stock issues.

HV20T69SDE Intel Core i5-4690S Tray 206,90 €
HV1143IIDE Gigabyte GA-H97-HD3, Sockel 1150, ATX 80,73 €
HV30SC06DE Scythe Katana 3, nur für Intel-CPUs 19,19 €
HV20MI61DE 8GB-Kit Crucial Ballistix Sport XT Series DDR3-1600, CL9 72,68 €
HV203E41DE Antec One, ATX, ohne Netzteil 54,90 €
HVR651CSDE Corsair CS Series Modular CS650M 650W ATX 2.3 85,85 €
HV1027WKDE Gainward GeForce GTX 970, 4GB DDR5 331,75 €
HV12CZS9DE Crucial M500 240GB SATA 6GB/s 6,4CM (2,5") 7mm 96,18 €
HV21B2GLDE BenQ GL2450 117,46 €
HVSE7HH6DE OEM Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit inkl. Vorinstallation 79,90 €

Total value: 1.180,53 € (I have not used Giezhals but I will once I know everything is gonna be okay with the order.)

All prices are delivery prices

Thanks,
Fergulbops

Sniipe

sounds good to me. Whats the story with windows 7? Will it be in German or will it be an international one?

frozenfrozen

Sniipe wrote: »

sounds good to me. Whats the story with windows 7? Will it be in German or will it be an international one?

If you buy a german disk the os would be in german and you could either download a different language pack or just use that cd key with an english iso