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what would you do

  • 12-06-2014 9:41pm
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    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,513 ✭✭✭


    I was walking up the hill by penny's in swords village this evening and in front of me were two people who were in wheelchairs, they were seriously struggling and even the lady was kind of turning back to go back down the hill even though she wanted to go up.I did think to myself that I should maybe help her but then I said no, its not my problem she should know her limitations (for the want me a better term) they got to the top of the hill eventually but it was touch and go for a while, Hence my dilemma

    Should I have helped her ? I mean she was struggling and in need of some help but on the other hand would i have insulted her by offering assistance.

    What would you do ???


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,507 ✭✭✭Nino Brown


    I wouldn't bother either, too many times I've gotten attitude off people I was trying to help,


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 504 ✭✭✭Zed Bank


    Nino Brown wrote: »
    I wouldn't bother either, too many times I've gotten attitude off people I was trying to help,

    People and their pride huh?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,459 ✭✭✭Chucken


    Not being familiar with the hill by penny's in swords village, sorry, I can't comment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,908 ✭✭✭✭mfceiling


    I have a stock line for situations like this..

    "do you need any help"?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,396 ✭✭✭Frosty McSnowballs


    You're right OP!

    Old women in wheelchairs need to know their limitations! Stupid feckers!

    You should have pogo sticked your way past them up that hill.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,087 ✭✭✭Iseedeadpixels


    whupdedo wrote: »
    I was walking up the hill by penny's in swords village this evening and in front of me were two people who were in wheelchairs, they were seriously struggling and even the lady was kind of turning back to go back down the hill even though she wanted to go up.I did think to myself that I should maybe help her but then I said no, its not my problem she should know her limitations (for the want me a better term) they got to the top of the hill eventually but it was touch and go for a while, Hence my dilemma

    Should I have helped her ? I mean she was struggling and in need of some help but on the other hand would i have insulted her by offering assistance.

    What would you do ???

    I once saw a tiny woman struggling to get something off a shop shelf, I asked do you need help.....she shot me a dirty look saying she worked there, moral of the story don't help anyone!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 191 ✭✭ElizaT33


    THIS is what's wrong with society - I wouldn't have hesitated to help ... would have waited to get her home and even made her a cup of tea. My sons, if they had been in that situation, would have been brought up to do the same - without thinking! No offence, OP, but you shouldn't even have to ask this question! If she didn't want the help, fine - but you shouldn't have thought TWICE about doing it!:(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,380 ✭✭✭✭Banjo String


    I would have offered help. If they refused, I'd have walked away with a feeling of self satisfaction, knowing I did (what I thought) was the right thing.


    Then let out a sigh of relief cos I'm a lazy Bastard.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,345 ✭✭✭The Dagda


    whupdedo wrote: »
    I was walking up the hill by penny's in swords village this evening and in front of me were two people who were in wheelchairs, they were seriously struggling and even the lady was kind of turning back to go back down the hill even though she wanted to go up.I did think to myself that I should maybe help her but then I said no, its not my problem she should know her limitations (for the want me a better term) they got to the top of the hill eventually but it was touch and go for a while, Hence my dilemma

    Should I have helped her ? I mean she was struggling and in need of some help but on the other hand would i have insulted her by offering assistance.

    What would you do ???

    They were obviously racing. It's lucky you didn't intervene, there could've been money on the outcome.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,513 ✭✭✭whupdedo


    You're right OP!

    Old women in wheelchairs need to know their limitations! Stupid feckers!

    You should have pogo sticked your way past them up that hill.

    She was about 30, which is partly the reason I kept stumm


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,513 ✭✭✭whupdedo


    ElizaT33 wrote: »
    THIS is what's wrong with society - I wouldn't have hesitated to help ... would have waited to get her home and even made her a cup of tea. My sons, if they had been in that situation, would have been brought up to do the same - without thinking! No offence, OP, but you shouldn't even have to ask this question! If she didn't want the help, fine - but you shouldn't have thought TWICE about doing it!:(

    No offence taken, but the last thing I wanted was to seem patronising, especially when their was two of them and the fella was giving her encouragement all the time, also I'm sure she's well able to make her own tea


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 191 ✭✭ElizaT33


    whupdedo wrote: »
    No offence taken, but the last thing I wanted was to seem patronising, especially when their was two of them and the fella was giving her encouragement all the time, also I'm sure she's well able to make her own tea

    Of course she could make her own tea - I was just detailing the fact that I would have helped her, and then gone a little step further by saying 'now you're home, why don't I make a nice cuppa'!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,396 ✭✭✭Frosty McSnowballs


    whupdedo wrote: »
    She was about 30, which is partly the reason I kept stumm

    That makes so much more sense!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,507 ✭✭✭Nino Brown


    ElizaT33 wrote: »
    Of course she could make her own tea - I was just detailing the fact that I would have helped her, and then gone a little step further by saying 'now you're home, why don't I make a nice cuppa'!

    If I helped a handicapped girl up the hill, then followed her home, then invited myself in, I'd imagine I'd have to make a cup of tea for the Gardai who would be arriving shortly after me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,954 ✭✭✭✭Larianne


    Chucken wrote: »
    Not being familiar with the hill by penny's in swords village, sorry, I can't comment.

    Swords is a TOWN, not a VILLAGE!! :mad:

    Now.
    If it's the hill that Penneys faces onto to, between Roxy's Diner and the old ESB shop, then shame on you OP. That's a bítch of a hill to walk up, nevermind wheel yourself up in a wheelchair. I'm guessing they were using the road as the path is very narrow there. Even MORE reason to help them up to the top, to get out of harms way!!

    I would have offered to help. The worst they could have said was "No, thank you".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 464 ✭✭The Th!ng


    Sell the wheelchairs and their valuables on ebay.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,987 ✭✭✭Legs.Eleven


    I know the hill. Very steep. Would you not have at least offered?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,166 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    whupdedo wrote: »
    I was walking up the hill by penny's in swords village this evening and in front of me were two people who were in wheelchairs, they were seriously struggling and even the lady was kind of turning back to go back down the hill even though she wanted to go up.I did think to myself that I should maybe help her but then I said no, its not my problem she should know her limitations (for the want me a better term) they got to the top of the hill eventually but it was touch and go for a while, Hence my dilemma

    Should I have helped her ? I mean she was struggling and in need of some help but on the other hand would i have insulted her by offering assistance.

    What would you do ???

    You did the right thing, OP.

    Will you post the link to the YouTube video as soon as you have it uploaded, thanks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,459 ✭✭✭Chucken


    Larianne wrote: »
    Swords is a TOWN, not a VILLAGE!! :mad:

    Now.
    If it's the hill that Penneys faces onto to, between Roxy's Diner and the old ESB shop, then shame on you OP. That's a bítch of a hill to walk up, nevermind wheel yourself up in a wheelchair. I'm guessing they were using the road as the path is very narrow there. Even MORE reason to help them up to the top, to get out of harms way!!

    I would have offered to help. The worst they could have said was "No, thank you".

    Aw thanks. That description makes me feel like I've seen it before :)

    You can't beat a good description of a hill.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,954 ✭✭✭✭Larianne


    Chucken wrote: »
    Aw thanks. That description makes me feel like I've seen it before :)

    You can't beat a good description of a hill.

    I can further the description:
    It curves to the left as you approach the top of it, where it meets the Old Dublin Road.
    Also, it's a two way road until it passes the apartment block on the right and then turns into a one way.

    You can see it if you go onto Google Earth no doubt. :)

    Oh, also! There is a little holy well to the right of the start of the bend in the hill.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,835 ✭✭✭✭cloud493


    Like, penneys as it comes out of pavilions? I don't recall there even being a slope.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,459 ✭✭✭Chucken


    Larianne wrote: »
    I can further the description:
    It curves to the left as you approach the top of it, where it meets the Old Dublin Road.
    Also, it's a two way road until it passes the apartment block on the right and then turns into a one way.

    You can see it if you go onto Google Earth no doubt. :)

    Oh, also! There is a little holy well to the right of the start of the bend in the hill.

    So there's now a New Dublin?

    My how the world changes!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,314 ✭✭✭caustic 1


    Does that mean there was an old York?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,630 ✭✭✭Zen65


    whupdedo wrote: »
    What would you do ???

    I think I'd have politely offered help, in fairness.

    Most of the time when I offer help (lifting bags on trains, helping blind people to cross roads, seats to the pregnant etc) it is accepted gratefully. Yes once or twice people will take umbrage but I would not let that change how I behave.

    I do recall passing an elderly lady on the street during a downpour in Dublin city centre, while she was carrying bags of groceries. I was wearing a suit and carrying an umbrella, so I held it over her (getting drenched myself) while chatting to her and keeping her dry as best I could. When we came near to her house she became nervous (perhaps fearing that I'd follow her inside and mug her? or perhaps she'd have found it embarrassing to have accepted help? I don't know) and she asked me to walk on ahead so she could walk the last 30 yards to her house without me. I did as she asked. Later I had to dump the suit (and my undergarments) as the downpour had destroyed it beyond restoration. Thankfully I kept spare clothes in the office so I did not spend all day being wet. Anyway the point is that I still look back on that day with a smile, just knowing that I helped her to avoid being totally drowned, even if she appeared to be a little put out at the end of it.

    Helping others is one of life's genuine pleasures! It's a shame to miss an opportunity.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,954 ✭✭✭✭Larianne


    Chucken wrote: »
    So there's now a New Dublin?

    My how the world changes!

    Old, as in the road is old, not the Dublin.
    Although, if you search for another Dublin, it happens to be in America, which isn't as old as the Dublin in Ireland so technically it is an old Dublin. :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,954 ✭✭✭✭Larianne


    caustic 1 wrote: »
    Does that mean there was an old York?

    Yeah, the one in the UK.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,459 ✭✭✭Chucken


    Larianne wrote: »
    Yeah, the one in the UK.


    Not old. Original.;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,574 ✭✭✭whirlpool


    ...if your son was at home, crying all alone on the bedroom floor and he's hungry......

    (Come on, I can't be the only one?)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 497 ✭✭Mr Keek


    Feck sake OP, you should have offered to help at least. The way you described it makes it pretty obvious they would have appreciated assistance.

    I think you know you should have too, otherwise you wouldnt be here asking.

    Free good karma, and you turned it down! Tut tut😀


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,954 ✭✭✭Tail Docker


    I would have offered help. If they refused, I'd have walked away with a feeling of self satisfaction, knowing I did (what I thought) was the right thing.


    Then let out a sigh of relief cos I'm a lazy Bastard.

    Lol. Same as. "Err, can I help you? No? Cool."


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,574 ✭✭✭whirlpool


    To give a serious answer, OP, it's a case of you could be damned if you do and you could be damned if you don't. There is no right answer to this, just do what comes naturally to you yourself. You can't please everyone and don't bother wasting your time trying.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,574 ✭✭✭whirlpool


    Mr Keek wrote: »
    Feck sake OP, you should have offered to help at least. The way you described it makes it pretty obvious they would have appreciated assistance.

    I think you know you should have too, otherwise you wouldnt be here asking.

    What a load of w_nk. There is just as much chance that the person in the wheelchair would have disliked the offer of help as much as they would have liked the offer of help. There was no way for the OP to know either way and they're not a mind reader.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,147 ✭✭✭PizzamanIRL


    whupdedo wrote: »

    Should I have helped her ? I mean she was struggling and in need of some help.

    You answered your own question. Definitely ask if she wanted help.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,916 ✭✭✭shopaholic01


    Had she nice boobs?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,396 ✭✭✭Frosty McSnowballs


    Had she nice boobs?

    They were wheely nice ones


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,513 ✭✭✭whupdedo


    Mr Keek wrote: »
    Feck sake OP, you should have offered to help at least. The way you described it makes it pretty obvious they would have appreciated assistance.

    I think you know you should have too, otherwise you wouldnt be here asking.

    Free good karma, and you turned it down! Tut tut��

    Yes, but, she was within about ten metres to the top of the hill, if I had gone and given assistance i really think I'd have burst her bubble seeing as she had gone all the way up on her own and with the other guy giving her encouragement all the way, I think it was best that I say nothing and let her go it alone


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 340 ✭✭desultory


    Can we get a google street view of this hill for science purposes?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,558 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Just wanted to say thanks for all the funny AH remarks - having a poxy morning* but got a few giggles ☺




    *some pr*ck walked by without offering any help as I was struggling up a hill in a wheelchair


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,513 ✭✭✭whupdedo


    everlast75 wrote: »
    Just wanted to say thanks for all the funny AH remarks - having a poxy morning* but got a few giggles ☺




    *some pr*ck walked by without offering any help as I was struggling up a hill in a wheelchair

    You should invest in an electric wheelchair :pac:


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