milking cows with rumen fluke

friesian13

what can i give milking cows for rumen fluke.is there anything with no milk withdrawl?any advice,thanks.

Greengrass1

friesian13 wrote: »

what can i give milking cows for rumen fluke.is there anything with no milk withdrawl?any advice,thanks.

Have you done dung samples? Don't think there is anything that has no milk withdrawal

whelan2

zanil, 72 hours milk withdrawal. do they have rumen fluke?

friesian13

dung samples done.cows showing up with rumen fluke.had problems wiht fluke before.dont want to wait til drying off to treat

Greengrass1

friesian13 wrote: »

dung samples done.cows showing up with rumen fluke.had problems wiht fluke before.dont want to wait til drying off to treat

Ye could try pick out the very bad ones and do a few every week

whelan2

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Ye could try pick out the very bad ones and do a few every week

thats what i did at the beginning, i did 2 a day, keep good records.

Greengrass1

whelan2 wrote: »

thats what i did at the beginning, i did 2 a day, keep good records.

Does it show up in milk though?

whelan2

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Does it show up in milk though?

the dose ? i dont know i kept them for the 72 hours

Greengrass1

whelan2 wrote: »

the dose ? i dont know i kept them for the 72 hours

Like does it show up like antibiotics in milk?

whelan2

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Like does it show up like antibiotics in milk?

i dont know, i would assume so

friesian13

heard that zanil doesnt show up in the milk test.mite do a quarter of herd per week.job done in a month!!

Greengrass1

friesian13 wrote: »

heard that zanil doesnt show up in the milk test.mite do a quarter of herd per week.job done in a month!!

What sort of condition aaare cows in?

joejobrien

Apparently what I hear it doesnt show up as antibiotics but if dept calls in and they WILL test for same.
I understand you proplem but you do realise that by doing a few at a time you are retuning treated cow back out with there contaminated collogues and reinfesting the clean treated cows. One go with everythin is best practice but Iunderstand your pain.
And just like previous comments........... no does with zero withdrawal

Deepsouthwest

frazzledhome wrote: »

Do on Friday of the August bank holiday, not joking

That's a pretty irresponsible post in my opinion. We're food producers first and foremost, and down this part of the country a lot of our milk goes into baby formula, that's one market we don't wanna fcuk up. Don't get me wrong, I'm not naive enough to think there's not a few cowboys chancing it, I just think they're dciks!

frazzledhome

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Like does it show up like antibiotics in milk?

No, it's an inhibitor ie may effect the processing of some product.

Greengrass1

frazzledhome wrote: »

No, it's an inhibitor ie may effect the processing of some product.

I'm going to use zanil on autumn calvers this year. Better to go with albex at drying to get rid of worms or what?

keep going

Does the benifit justify the risk,

Deepsouthwest

Greengrass1 wrote: »

I'm going to use zanil on autumn calvers this year. Better to go with albex at drying to get rid of worms or what?

Probably need to go with both and something else for liver fluke, if u think fluke's an issue. Zanil is a poor fluke dose, but the only one allowed on milking cows. Levafast diamond is the only other one that covers rumen fluke and actually does worms as well, but that's def not allowed near the milkers, even when they're dry!

Greengrass1

Deepsouthwest wrote: »

Probably need to go with both and something else for liver fluke, if u think fluke's an issue. Zanil is a poor fluke dose, but the only one allowed on milking cows. Levafast diamond is the only other one that covers rumen fluke and actually does worms as well, but that's def not allowed near the milkers, even when they're dry!

Ye fluke and worms are a big problem here. I thought zanil was very good for fluke? I've been using albex or endosoec for last few yrs for worms and fluke so want to move to something else

Deepsouthwest

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Ye fluke and worms are a big problem here. I thought zanil was very good for fluke? I've been using albex or endosoec for last few yrs for worms and fluke so want to move to something else

Fasinex 240 is expensive, but def good on fluke. I'd try a pour-on if u want a change for the worms, they've got an awful lot cheaper, and it'll cover lice as well. V early in the yr to be discussing dosing strategies at drying off/housing time!

Greengrass1

Deepsouthwest wrote: »

Fasinex 240 is expensive, but def good on fluke. I'd try a pour-on if u want a change for the worms, they've got an awful lot cheaper, and it'll cover lice as well. V early in the yr to be discussing dosing strategies at drying off/housing time!

Used fasinex at drying last year. Found it okay but not spectacular. I've autumn calvers to dry in 5 weeks tine

whelan2

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Used fasinex at drying last year. Found it okay but not spectacular. I've autumn calvers to dry in 5 weeks tine

i am starting drying off on 1 july, start calving again end of august which is 2 weeks later than last year

Greengrass1

whelan2 wrote: »

i am starting drying off on 1 july, start calving again end of august which is 2 weeks later than last year

Ye starting here first week of September. 6 weeks should do them. Most are in very good condition

Rovi

frazzledhome wrote: »

Do on Friday of the August bank holiday, not joking

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frazzledhome

Rovi wrote: »

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Fair enough, didn't think it through