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** LC Religion 2014 ** Discussion/Predictions/Help

  • 06-06-2014 10:45pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5


    Hi, I thought since there are so few of us that do leaving cert Religion, that we could all help one another in terms of how to do essays in certain sections etc.
    Predictions are welcome and if anybody needs notes/essays we can all get and exchange etc. :)


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44 lizzmurph


    Do you've any thoughts as to what might appear? The course is so long..there's just so much!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1 C.kearney95


    Hi, I thought since there are so few of us that do leaving cert Religion, that we could all help one another in terms of how to do essays in certain sections etc.
    Predictions are welcome and if anybody needs notes/essays we can all get and exchange etc. :)

    Any predictions ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5 AndreJasonUser


    It's tough to predict because it's such a vast course and also so particular. It's driving me mental. This friday night I'm going to go through all the questions that have come up and determine the predictions. I'll post what I think may come up then...
    But everyone should try make an input.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13 Rainydays212


    Hey guys,
    For the small number of you who do religion, what are you all studying? I'm genuinely out of study mode and am finding it extremely difficult to study religion..anyone the same?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44 lizzmurph


    Same here! I've started looking at Section B and it's just not staying in my brain..it's so much to learn. I feel like it's hard to leave anything out because the smallest of things could come up :(


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13 Rainydays212


    lizzmurph wrote: »
    Same here! I've started looking at Section B and it's just not staying in my brain..it's so much to learn. I feel like it's hard to leave anything out because the smallest of things could come up :(

    Exactly there is too much..I've only taken it up this year and plan on learning the course until the day of exam but It's too much effort :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44 lizzmurph


    Do you know if it's difficult to get an A in religion? I get A's in most of my essay's but in the mock i got a C1, apparently it's hard to do well according to what I've heard. but i need at least a B1 in this. crap.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13 Rainydays212


    lizzmurph wrote: »
    Do you know if it's difficult to get an A in religion? I get A's in most of my essay's but in the mock i got a C1, apparently it's hard to do well according to what I've heard. but i need at least a B1 in this. crap.

    All I've heard is they don't fail anyone..apparently. My friend got an a1 but she had been studying it for two years..I'm sure you can get a B though if you study relentlessly over the next few days but that's the problem, I want a a B aswell but I'm not motivated at all. So annoying it's the last day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44 lizzmurph


    All I've heard is they don't fail anyone..apparently. My friend got an a1 but she had been studying it for two years..I'm sure you can get a B though if you study relentlessly over the next few days but that's the problem, I want a a B aswell but I'm not motivated at all. So annoying it's the last day.

    I know I've lost all motivation at this stage, just want it over with. I'm just going to swim over some stuff when i feel like it and then the few days before hopefully I'll be forced to cram what's left!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 96 ✭✭Nick_1494


    I think religions one of the easier essay subjects! History was a ****ing pain. At least with religion once you have a general idea you can waffle for the rest. You probably have like 12-17% already going in. I've had exams every day since the first day and two exams Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday so I'm taking this weekend off but I'll probably just go over the finer details. And morality!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 128 ✭✭Ruanmcg


    Any predictions for RE? Anyone's teacher said whats likely/unlikely?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 96 ✭✭Nick_1494


    Ruanmcg wrote: »
    Any predictions for RE? Anyone's teacher said whats likely/unlikely?

    SPA seem unlikely. So do the Sophists. Hopefully not the later philosophers! I may just cry.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 128 ✭✭Ruanmcg


    Nick_1494 wrote: »
    SPA seem unlikely. So do the Sophists. Hopefully not the later philosophers! I may just cry.

    No aristotle? He was on our mocks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13 Kmac16


    I'd Aristotle is likely for Section. A. I also think that Just War/Child Labour/ Capital Punishment question might make an appearance on Section. D of the paper!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57 ✭✭yoajing


    Anyone know what might come up on World Religions and Moral Decision Making? By the way, I have a feeling this year's paper gonna be slightly more difficult than last year's. There will probably be more of a prominent shift in style, away from questions where students can just regurgitate facts. More self-reflection, you know.

    PS: Can anyone explain how to answer these type of questions --

    "Identify cultural factors in contemporary society that can block the search for meaning."

    and

    "Give two examples of the contemporary phenomenon of indifference to the search for meaning."

    If anyone's wondering where I got this from, it's the syllabus. Great way to answer some sample questions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27 Milfhunter


    yoajing wrote: »
    Anyone know what might come up on World Religions and Moral Decision Making? By the way, I have a feeling this year's paper gonna be slightly more difficult than last year's. There will probably be more of a prominent shift in style, away from questions where students can just regurgitate facts. More self-reflection, you know.

    PS: Can anyone explain how to answer these type of questions --

    "Identify cultural factors in contemporary society that can block the search for meaning."

    and

    "Give two examples of the contemporary phenomenon of indifference to the search for meaning."

    If anyone's wondering where I got this from, it's the syllabus. Great way to answer some sample questions.

    We did the first question is class. Its basically talking about how addiction (drugs, sex, alcahol) and depression etc can stop one from wanting to search for meaning in their lives. TBH If that came up in the exam I would just waffle on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57 ✭✭yoajing


    Milfhunter wrote: »
    We did the first question is class. Its basically talking about how addiction (drugs, sex, alcahol) and depression etc can stop one from wanting to search for meaning in their lives. TBH If that came up in the exam I would just waffle on

    I just found a sheet with an answer to both questions. Think I got it from one of the classes way back. smh. Your answer sounds defo easier to write than what my teacher suggested. She said to talk about ideology of secularism and radical individualism …. right … sure.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13 Kmac16


    yoajing wrote: »
    Anyone know what might come up on World Religions and Moral Decision Making? By the way, I have a feeling this year's paper gonna be slightly more difficult than last year's. There will probably be more of a prominent shift in style, away from questions where students can just regurgitate facts. More self-reflection, you know.


    .

    I hope we get a straight-forward paper anyway. I think the Religion paper might be still be similar to other years as it isn't all learning off you have to use your thoughts to make your own introduction and conclusion. I think they are more trying to get away from regurgitating facts in common subjects such as Biology but then again I could be wrong.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5 AndreJasonUser


    Hey guys, I know there is so much in the course to cover. But looking over the past exams, I haven't seen any questions come up twice in a row so if you really feel that you need to narrow things down, cut out the 2013 questions and focus on the questions that haven't come up in a good few years.

    For example, last year:

    -Search for meaning and values -
    ....Socrates
    ....Evidence of a contemporary sense of spirituality
    ....3 key people in the humanist tradition
    ....Secular humanism, atheism, agnosticism, reductionism.

    -Christianity: Origins and contemporary Expressions-
    ....Thessalonica, Philippi or Corinth
    ...How is the contemporary founding vision seen in Christian worship today or outline the relationship between founding vision and the search for Christian unity.

    -World Religions-
    ...Tabu, Totem, Mana, Shaman, Tabu

    It's hard to narrow down, but go to papers in and around 2006-2010 and you can pretty much expect stuff from those areas to come up!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44 lizzmurph


    Eoin Jackson on Youtube has predicted the following:

    Section A: Ancient myth & rites, modern experiences which raise Q's, the transcendant, religious practices, other philosophers (not Aristotle, plato or socrataes or humanists), development of philosophy and images of God.

    Section B: Impact of the resurrection, images of jesus, jesus preaching of K.O.G, evidence of his existence, modern christian denomination, messianic expectations and luthers reforms.

    if you want any of the other sections they're on his page on youtube :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27 Milfhunter


    yoajing wrote: »
    I just found a sheet with an answer to both questions. Think I got it from one of the classes way back. smh. Your answer sounds defo easier to write than what my teacher suggested. She said to talk about ideology of secularism and radical individualism …. right … sure.

    I think we were suppose to talk about the modern age being materialistic etc, I'm not 100% though as we have to finish this section in an extra class on Wednesday :/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,228 ✭✭✭robman60


    Milfhunter wrote: »
    I think we were suppose to talk about the modern age being materialistic etc, I'm not 100% though as we have to finish this section in an extra class on Wednesday :/
    Make sure you write that you use the username milfhunter when doing your religion exam. It'll go down well, trust me! :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27 Milfhunter


    robman60 wrote: »
    Make sure you write that you use the username milfhunter when doing your religion exam. It'll go down well, trust me! :pac:

    I will, I just hope the section E question in the real exam isn't based on feminism. It was in the mock and I almost lost it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2 Blackwrist


    I'm just curious as to roughly how long the average answer should be in higher level religion. Is 1-2 A4 pages enough? How much detail does one need to go into?

    Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 96 ✭✭Nick_1494


    Blackwrist wrote: »
    I'm just curious as to roughly how long the average answer should be in higher level religion. Is 1-2 A4 pages enough? How much detail does one need to go into?

    Thanks

    Usually once you have everything in your fine. For an 80 mark, we've always been told 3-4 pages. 40 is 1 1/2 - 2.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2 Blackwrist


    Nick_1494 wrote: »
    SPA seem unlikely. So do the Sophists. Hopefully not the later philosophers! I may just cry.

    What later philosophers are on the course?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 128 ✭✭Ruanmcg


    Blackwrist wrote: »
    What later philosophers are on the course?

    Nietzche and Decartes I think?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 96 ✭✭Nick_1494


    Blackwrist wrote: »
    What later philosophers are on the course?

    The Christian philosophers, neitsczhe, marxs, Camus, Sartre and Descartes. I think that's it :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11 RHardy


    Hey guys does any idea on to time the exam? It's hard because some questions are short, some are long....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57 ✭✭yoajing


    RHardy wrote: »
    Hey guys does any idea on to time the exam? It's hard because some questions are short, some are long....

    Think of it this way… 15 minutes per page.

    UNIT ONE - 80 marks = 30 minutes

    UNIT TWO - 160 marks = 60 minutes (or 30 mins per section)

    UNIT THREE - 80 marks = 30 minutes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 96 ✭✭Nick_1494


    yoajing wrote: »
    Think of it this way… 15 minutes per page.

    UNIT ONE - 80 marks = 30 minutes

    UNIT TWO - 160 marks = 60 minutes (or 30 mins per section)

    UNIT THREE - 80 marks = 30 minutes.

    You can only do 2 pages for an 80 marker?!? ****ing teacher making me do 4 ! :O


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57 ✭✭yoajing


    Nick_1494 wrote: »
    You can only do 2 pages for an 80 marker?!? ****ing teacher making me do 4 ! :O

    I got an A1 from doing just that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26 Silver Sniper


    Someone just give me a few things to study for tomorow that are likely t come up im desperate


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23 Kaeb


    I'm also desperate, I added this subject last minute as an external repeat applicant for the sake of points desperation.

    I can't find any resources online that basically outline the exact material/definitions and topics that are required for me to cover.

    If anyone could lay anything out/provide notes you would basically ensure me getting a good grade and I'd owe you for life.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57 ✭✭yoajing


    Kaeb wrote: »
    I'm also desperate, I added this subject last minute as an external repeat applicant for the sake of points desperation.

    I can't find any resources online that basically outline the exact material/definitions and topics that are required for me to cover.

    If anyone could lay anything out/provide notes you would basically ensure me getting a good grade and I'd owe you for life.

    The syllabus is a good source. Check out the "OUTCOMES" column in each topic as it will give you sample questions. As far as I know, they'll only ask questions based on them.

    curriculumonline.ie/getmedia/634e6941-03f5-4599-ad97-61316e336360/SCSEC29_Religious_Ed_syllabus_eng_1.pdf


    Also, check out Eoin Jackson's youtube channel for his prediction on religion.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23 Kaeb


    Thanks for your help!

    Anything else I should know?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35 crolekka


    So how did we find that? :P

    Think it was a pretty fair paper myself for the sections I did. Aristotle on Section A was a bit of a curveball but I didn't mind as I know his ideas just wasn't expecting him.

    Christianity was a nice section, good choice options and nothing too complex what with Messianic Expectations and Returning to Origins.

    The first World Religions question was a bit tricky and isn't covered really in the books. You kind of had to apply your general knowledge to it. Vision of Salvation for me was handy to fill 2 pages.

    Worship, Prayer and Ritual was very simplistic in my opinion with symbolism and ritualism. Very broad topics that were easy to apply to the question asked. The 'sacrament' question was phrased oddly I thought. I think it was asking about the importance and meaning of the sacraments between the two denominations which may seem obvious but in a rush it could be easy to misinterpret it.

    All in all, for my chosen sections I think it was a lovely paper. Great feeling handing it up knowing it's my last exam too!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13 Kmac16


    I did Section A question two - I was happy as I had Ancient Rites learnt off well! The prophetic and Holy ways of looking at life were also straight forward to write about.

    Section. B- Returning to Origins was a handy question. For Messianic Expectation, I don't think I knew a gospel account well enough so I tried to fill up the essay with information to do with the different expectations of Messiah.
    Section.D- Nice questions- I did Abortion as the moral issue. I did War for Part(b), I knew the information off on war however I found it difficult to cut down to suit the question, anyway I think I did well in it.
    Section. G- Nice questions but I didn't leave enough time for this section. I had to rush and I only wrote around 2 to 2.5 pages on the whole section :(
    It wasn't a bad paper the only real problem was the timing!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35 crolekka


    Kmac16 wrote: »
    I did Section A question two - I was happy as I had Ancient Rites learnt off well! The prophetic and Holy ways of looking at life were also straight forward to write about.

    Section. B- Returning to Origins was a handy question. For Messianic Expectation, I don't think I knew a gospel account well enough so I tried to fill up the essay with information to do with the different expectations of Messiah.
    Section.D- Nice questions- I did Abortion as the moral issue. I did War for Part(b), I knew the information off on war however I found it difficult to cut down to suit the question, anyway I think I did well in it.
    Section. G- Nice questions but I didn't leave enough time for this section. I had to rush and I only wrote around 2 to 2.5 pages on the whole section :(
    It wasn't a bad paper the only real problem was the timing!

    Timing is an absolute killer for religion. Luckily I learned that mistake in the mocks so I adjusted as best I can and barely managed to get everything done. The last question looked like it was written by a hyper 6 year old because of the speed I had write :L As long as you got your key points in for the last question you'll be grand :)


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