Old cider bottles

Dvmag85

Anybody know how much these bottles are worth if anything atall? Are they collect able or even how old they are? I found them years ago while out shooting

Judgement Day

Dvmag85 wrote: »

Anybody know how much these bottles are worth if anything atall? Are they collect able or even how old they are? I found them years ago while out shooting

Pictures would help.

coylemj

If you mean the two pint Bulmers bottle (known as a 'flagon'), I doubt they'd be worth much. That was how Cider and Cidona was sold up to the late 1960s - you asked for a pint or a half pint and the barman filled the appropriate glass from the flagon. There would have been thousands in circulation so I'm sure plenty of them have survived.

The glass was dark brown and the bottle had a black bakelite screwtop cap with an orange rubber seal to make it airtight. The rubber seal rings were perfect for attaching a simple fishing reel to a bamboo fishing rod!

Your specimen would probably need to have the original 'woodpecker' label in VG condition for the bottle to be a collectible.

chopper6

I wish we could have a ban on threads demanding to know "How much is it worth?".

Dr Strange

chopper6 wrote: »

I wish we could have a ban on threads demanding to know "How much is it worth?".

Not going to happen. This is part of our forum. Perfectly OK to ask about the value/worth of a particular antique or collectable.

JKGT

Anybody any info on these 2, the one on left is a very small bulmers bottle and the right a goodalls.. Thanks

Judgement Day

JKGT wrote: »

Anybody any info on these 2, the one on left is a very small bulmers bottle and the right a goodalls.. Thanks

Try the Irish Antique Bottle Collectors Club https://www.facebook.com/groups/232010943545925/

coylemj

JKGT wrote: »

Anybody any info on these 2, the one on left is a very small bulmers bottle and the right a goodalls.. Thanks

The Bulmers bottle has a neck designed to take a crown cork so isn't that old. The Goodall's bottle probably isn't that old either based on the lettering and the thread on the top clearly designed to take a screw-on tin or plastic cap. It looks like it was originally a bottle of Salad Cream.

JKGT

coylemj wrote: »

The Bulmers bottle has a neck designed to take a crown cork so isn't that old. The Goodall's bottle probably isn't that old either based on the lettering and the thread on the top clearly designed to take a screw-on tin or plastic cap. It looks like it was originally a bottle of Salad Cream.

I'm finding it very hard to find any info on the bulmers bottle at all , it holds about 200ml only.

chopper6

JKGT wrote: »

I'm finding it very hard to find any info on the bulmers bottle at all , it holds about 200ml only.

Its an old Cidona bottle as sold in Pubs. It's post-1950's as evidenced by teh crown cap closure.

JKGT

chopper6 wrote: »

Its an old Cidona bottle as sold in Pubs. It's post-1950's as evidenced by teh crown cap closure.

It has bulmers printed on the glass???

chopper6

JKGT wrote: »

It has bulmers printed on the glass???

Bulmers made Cidona

coylemj

chopper6 wrote: »

Bulmers made Cidona

They still do.

Soft drinks were sold in 1/3 of a pint (189ml) bottles before capacities were converted to metric so it has to be a Cidona bottle. The only alcoholic drink sold in 1/3 pint bottles was Barley Wine which was not manufactured by Bulmers.

chopper6

coylemj wrote: »

They still do.

Soft drinks were sold in 1/3 of a pint (189ml) bottles before capacities were converted to metric so it has to be a Cidona bottle. The only alcoholic drink sold in 1/3 pint bottles was Barley Wine which was not manufactured by Bulmers.

Similar bottles with Mi-Wadi written on the glass also turn up in thier thousands from 1960's dumps.

JKGT

Thanks here is a few more I found while out digging the garden.

chopper6

JKGT wrote: »

Thanks here is a few more I found while out digging the garden.

marmalade jar,bulmers flagon stopper,iodine(or similar),oxo bottle and what looks like a bleach bottle...all 1960's or so.

coylemj

chopper6 wrote: »

marmalade jar,bulmers flagon stopper,iodine(or similar),oxo bottle and what looks like a bleach bottle...all 1960's or so.

+1 The Bulmers 'flagon stopper' is the cap that I described in post #3 above, it's missing the orange rubber seal.

If a chemist dispensed medication in a six-sided bottle, it indicated that it was not for internal consumption i.e. it was for external (topical) application only. You can read 'Not to be taken' down one side. They were often referred to as 'poison bottles'.

The tiny dark jar with the oval body could be Marmite but more likely it's a Bovril bottle.

chopper6

coylemj wrote: »

+1 The Bulmers 'flagon stopper' is the cap that I described in post #3 above, it's missing the orange rubber seal.

If a chemist dispensed medication in a six-sided bottle, it indicated that it was not for internal consumption i.e. it was for external (topical) application only. You can read 'Not to be taken' down one side. They were often referred to as 'poison bottles'.

The tiny dark jar with the oval body could be Marmite but more likely it's a Bovril bottle.

The science behind the ridged "poison" bottle was pretty clever.

Before electric lighting was common houses tended to be quite dark and most medecines were kept in an even darker cupboard...anybody groping blindly in a medicine cupboard could identify a ridged bottle by touch and would know not to drink the contents.

The small bottle is certainly Bovril(did i say Oxo)...they came in a myriad sizes so it mustve been pretty expensive to bu at one stage.

Dvmag85

coylemj wrote: »

If you mean the two pint Bulmers bottle (known as a 'flagon'), I doubt they'd be worth much. That was how Cider and Cidona was sold up to the late 1960s - you asked for a pint or a half pint and the barman filled the appropriate glass from the flagon. There would have been thousands in circulation so I'm sure plenty of them have survived.

The glass was dark brown and the bottle had a black bakelite screwtop cap with an orange rubber seal to make it airtight. The rubber seal rings were perfect for attaching a simple fishing reel to a bamboo fishing rod!

Your specimen would probably need to have the original 'woodpecker' label in VG condition for the bottle to be a collectible.

Sorry but I'm not able to post pics,
The two bottles I have are like what you've described there one has no markings on it accept for on the bottom it's stamped 1262 C and the other has "BULMERS" on the side and 893 L on the bottom, was just curious to know a bit about them because I have them a good while now and don't really know much about them, thanks

coylemj

Dvmag85 wrote: »

Sorry but I'm not able to post pics,
The two bottles I have are like what you've described there one has no markings on it accept for on the bottom it's stamped 1262 C and the other has "BULMERS" on the side and 893 L on the bottom, was just curious to know a bit about them because I have them a good while now and don't really know much about them, thanks

The flagon held two pints, it had the bakelite screw cap I described earlier and which you can see in the photo in post #15 above (page 1). The 1/3 pint bottle was Cidona only and was sealed with a crown cork.

You described your bottles as 'cider bottles', the same bottles were used for cider and cidona.

Without labels they won't be worth anything.