Should HR people be someway Affable?

Bowlardo

Just wondering as there is one or two robos floating around our place with the inability to say hello or even do the generic fake smile.

P_1

If you're in a job that sometimes requires you to be a bit of a cnut to people it might be prudent in a self-preservation sense to try to detach your emotions.

Genghiz Cohen

Used to work in a big office (50-60 peeps) with one HR lady.
She was lovely and always had a smile and a kind word.

spyderski

They are in general, neither Human nor Resourceful....

4zn76tysfajdxp

The nicer HR people pretend to be, the more robotic they seem. Their fake smiles and lifeless "how are yas" barely concealing their utter disdain towards the other workers and cybertronic android innards.

Darkglasses

I've only worked in one place with a HR manager and she was brilliant for the place. It was a very demanding working environment and she gave a lot of support and positivity. I guess there's good ones and bad ones. But I think they get unfair criticism sometimes because their output is intangible a lot of the time.

The Backwards Man

Does anyone in offices actually do any work, or do they all have makey uppy jobs?

Give me a couple of days with ye, I'll not be long HRing ye.

anncoates

Maybe it's just the places I've worked in but the HR staff has always been pretty decent people and often have helped me in tangible ways: sorting out work issues, force majeure leave and other stuff.

anncoates

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Give me a couple of days with ye, I'll not be long HRing ye.

Histrionically Rural?



:pac:

Alf. A. Male

It's a reflection of their true purpose. Never make the mistake of thinking HR are there for your benefit, they are there to protect the company from you, not the other way around.

The Backwards Man

anncoates wrote: »

Histrionically Rural?



:pac:

Hard wRoughting!

Muahahaha

anncoates wrote: »

Histrionically Rural?



:pac:

Hiring Resistance

Shakespeare's Sister

Any I've worked with have seemed, overall, genuinely nice. I don't get the hate for HR.

Tail Docker

I'm guessing this is about Huge Rides? There's a department in a place we do work for with HR on the door and they are indeed, all huge rides. Pretty damn glamorous too. They don't seem to do much work though.

Shakespeare's Sister

In a big company I'd say the amount of work and stress is unreal. It's an area that has aspects of interest to me, but too many unappealing aspects to draw me into working in that area.

Pawn

Alf. A. Male wrote: »

Never make the mistake of thinking HR are there for your benefit, they are there to protect the company from you, not the other way around.

This.

Kidchameleon

HR in my old job were absolutely the most disgusting people you could ever meet.

4zn76tysfajdxp

Kidchameleon wrote: »

HR in my old job were absolutely the most disgusting people you could ever meet.

Paedos, like?

The_B_Man

Only hassle i ever had with HR was when applying for jobs. Regardless of how suitable you are for a job, if your CV doesnt tick the boxes, then it goes in the bin.

I sent in a CV to a company for a job, call it Job A. They then rang me back saying I was more suitable for another job within the company, lets say Job B. I accepted the interview and spoke to an actual tech person who knew what he was talking about. He said that in fact I was suitable for both jobs, but more so for the original Job A. I told him that Job A was my first choice. HR got back to me about a 2nd interview and I went in to be told I was not only interviewing for Job B, but that HR had told them specifically I was more suitable for Job B. Anyone with a base level of knowledge could have seen by my CV that Job A was the most suitable one for me. I didn't get the job in the end, but got a job in another company doing the exact same as Job A. This shows to me that when HR are hiring people, they need to have a decent knowledge of the industry, especially when its a tech company with 95% tech staff!

Bog Standard User

most HR are nothing more than sales people... they post fake jobs to collect cv's to sell themselves to companies not find you a job

anncoates

Kidchameleon wrote: »

HR in my old job were absolutely the most disgusting people you could ever meet.

Your unfair dismissal case got thrown out?

Thelonious

I hate them.

BBJBIG

My opinion :-

When someone in HR is not actually doing the PayRoll - then, they are doing Nothing constructive.

And, don't get me started about the so-called Pimping business (recruitment agencies ...) - the Pimps should
have been aborted at birth and the liver gone to someone more deserving ...

Buzz Killington the third

BBJBIG wrote: »

My opinion :-

When someone in HR is not actually doing the PayRoll - then, they are doing Nothing constructive.

It's not the role of HR to do the payrole.

monkeysnapper

I remember years ago working in a factory and I constantly flirted with the girl in hr and I asked her how many holidays I had left on system , she said 7 days left, I said shoot, I wanted to go on holiday for 2 weeks at end of year .

She did her David waliams impression and clicked the keys and said " they'd ya go , you have 10 days left. Have a nice day.

Yachi dda

Shakespeare's Sister

The_B_Man wrote: »

Regardless of how suitable you are for a job, if your CV doesnt tick the boxes, then it goes in the bin.

This is fair enough, no?

Agricola

Alf. A. Male wrote: »

It's a reflection of their true purpose. Never make the mistake of thinking HR are there for your benefit, they are there to protect the company from you, not the other way around.

Very true. I remember when I sent in a cv for a call center job years ago, someone from their HR rang me up asking me for more references than the ones provided. The general tone was "yeah we don't trust the underclasses who work for us, so we are going to make doubly sure you are suitable before even bothering with an interview, if you don't like that, I can bin your cv right here and now"

How I wish I had told her to shove it somewhere moist and dark. Would have probably saved a couple of years of my life stuck in that hateful kip.

Davarus Walrus

I've always felt it is one of those careers that was created to give people something to do. Rather pointless. Bullshít jobs.

Like Health and Safety Inspectors, Social Media 'gurus' or the SF spokesman on Justice.

The_B_Man

Magaggie wrote: »

This is fair enough, no?

Not in the context that the rest of my post detailed.

Say you go for a job as a shoe maker. You worked making womens shoes for years. In your spare time you make shoes for yourself. You enjoy this, so decide to go for a job making men shoes instead, and send in your CV to some place. In my experience, HR will throw your CV out because you only worked making (read: getting paid to make) womens shoes. You can make both but HR wouldnt have the industry knowledge to realise that they're the same, with only minor differences (which you have taught yourself anyway). So in this case you wouldnt tick the boxes required and your CV would be binned. Silly analogy i know but it gets the point across.

Mr. CooL ICE

I've worked in companies with good HR and bad HR depts. From what I've seen, they're just a reflection on their environment. You never experience a good HR dept in a bad company or a bad HR dept in a good company.

I'm friends with a girl from HR in my current company (they're almost always girls). She doesn't handle recruitment, but rather deals with new starts, and she actually wanted to get into HR. She described her job as being like a customer support call centre, but all customers are internal employees. And unlike regular call centres, the general public doesn't act like a cnut behind a wall of anonymity because they're in the same building as you.

Have another friend who works in HR elsewhere and just says HR people don't actively want to work in HR. It's just something you end up doing because you don't know what else to do.

jimgoose

I must say most HR bints I've encountered have been fairly normal, pleasant people. You will have the odd T-X of course.

BBJBIG

Davarus Walrus wrote: »

I've always felt it is one of those careers that was created to give people something to do. Rather pointless. Bullshít jobs.

Like Health and Safety Inspectors, Social Media 'gurus' ...

Exactly !!! !!! !!!
The purpose is to keep otherwise useless Fooookers off the Dole ...

Celly Smunt

All i know is that Toby is the worst.

Shakespeare's Sister

If it's useless, how come HR departments are extremely busy in big companies?
I don't think people genuinely believe it's useless at all. Who should do the duties of HR so?
People shouldn't take the less popular decisions of HR so personally.