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2 Years For Welfare Fraud €2,548

  • 09-06-2014 2:03am
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 68 ✭✭


    Its suspended but still completely unfair.
    independent.ie/irish-news/courts/dad-of-six-previously-convicted-of-ira-membership-avoids-jail-sentence-for-social-welfare-fraud-30332332.html most murderers and rapists get out after 7 years.

    Also an example of judges in this country. Martin Nolan gives a 6 year sentence to Paul Begley for a garlic scam. Yet he has given suspended sentences to rapists child molesters.

    broadsheet.ie/2013/11/15/huston-we-have-a-problem/

    Imagine the person you loved the most was brutally murdered and the killer gets out after 7 years?
    At present, the Board initially reviews prisoners who have been sentenced to life imprisonment after they have served 7 years.


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,573 ✭✭✭pragmatic1


    Eh.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,575 ✭✭✭AlanS181824


    (Tries to think of witty AH answer.)

    What a fraudulent story....

    *I'll let myself out.*


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    As has been said a few times lately, his mistake was criminal behavior involving a few thousand euro. You only get proper special treatment if your crimes involve tens of billions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,412 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    pragmatic1 wrote: »
    Eh?

    FYP

    :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,592 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    So the guy got off??

    Don't know where to put my outrage on this one.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,184 ✭✭✭✭Lapin


    Everyone who starts a dole related thread in AH should automatically be locked up for two years.

    And those who start such threads, then go off on tangents (using failed links) about garlic judges and murderers should get life.


    And being the worse for drink when you open such a thread is no mitigation.

    You could face the firing squad if you try pulling that old stunt.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 883 ✭✭✭anto9


    The sentence is meant as a deterrent which should save the Irish tax payer millions in the end .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Hardly seems unfair? #EddieHalvey


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,954 ✭✭✭Tail Docker


    anto9 wrote: »
    The sentence is meant as a deterrent which should save the Irish tax payer millions in the end .

    LOL. So they can blow it on some other rubbish/pour it down the banking debt hole or dream up a new scheme to stick their buddies onto a handy number. I'd rather ra boy got it tbh. At least he'll spend it here in Ireland.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,014 ✭✭✭Maphisto


    Lapin wrote: »
    Everyone who starts a dole related thread in AH should automatically be locked up for two years.

    And those who start such threads, then go off on tangents (using failed links) about garlic judges and murderers should get life.


    And being the worse for drink when you open such a thread is no mitigation.

    You could face the firing squad if you try pulling that old stunt.

    Suspended - we haven't got the prison space ;)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    LOL. So they can blow it on some other rubbish/pour it down the banking debt hole or dream up a new scheme to stick their buddies onto a handy number. I'd rather ra boy got it tbh. At least he'll spend it here in Ireland.

    So they should have just let him off with no punishment? Don't you regularly like to remind us about how much tax you pay in this country? This guy was stealing that tax money, would you be as sorry for him if he had walked into your home and stolen it from your wallet?


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    LOL. So they can blow it on some other rubbish/pour it down the banking debt hole or dream up a new scheme to stick their buddies onto a handy number. I'd rather ra boy got it tbh. At least he'll spend it here in Ireland.

    It would cover about 1/3 of the cost of a limo between airport terminals i guess. And where's he? On a big fat pension paid for by us. No suspended sentences for him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,666 ✭✭✭tritium


    Rojomcdojo wrote: »
    It would cover about 1/3 of the cost of a limo between airport terminals i guess. And where's he? On a big fat pension paid for by us. No suspended sentences for him.

    My biggest problem is that its suspended.

    Just because they can't get the sentence right for more serious crime doesn't mean I'm going to get outraged when they get it (almost) right for less serious crime...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 883 ✭✭✭anto9


    LOL. So they can blow it on some other rubbish/pour it down the banking debt hole or dream up a new scheme to stick their buddies onto a handy number. I'd rather ra boy got it tbh. At least he'll spend it here in Ireland.

    Your just making a jusification for Dole fraud .Sure the Politicians squander money left right and center ,but then after that there is only so much left for the needy in society.You could make the same excuse for robbing from a shop ,>>a shure they dont pay us enough Dole to live like we deserve and are intitled to<<
    The Dole is very generous in Ireland compared to many other even Euro States ,and there is no excuse for cheating the system.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 327 ✭✭userod


    anto9 wrote: »
    The sentence is meant as a deterrent which should save the Irish tax payer millions in the end .

    Isn't every sentence meant as a deterrent?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 883 ✭✭✭anto9


    userod wrote: »
    Isn't every sentence meant as a deterrent?

    Yes ,but this one saves the taxpayer money .Anyway the kunt does not even have to serve it .I do hope they make him pay back every cent or deduct it from his future Dole .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,421 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    He got done because it was indentity fraud - he used someone elses indentity to claim. They look on it far harsher than working and claiming.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,046 ✭✭✭Bio Mech


    tritium wrote: »
    Just because they can't get the sentence right for more serious crime doesn't mean I'm going to get outraged when they get it (almost) right for less serious crime...

    Now I don't consider myself especially dumb but I have read this sentence five times and haven't a clue what you are on about.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    Man belonged to an organisation who wanted to overthrow the State and then steals from that State

    State puts the boot into man


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 883 ✭✭✭anto9


    Bio Mech wrote: »
    Now I don't consider myself especially dumb but I have read this sentence five times and haven't a clue what you are on about.

    He means even though the state gets it wrong with white collar crime ,he is glad they get it right sometimes with low level crime ( but with high cost to the community as a whole ).


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,072 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    I'm sure his previous convictions played a part in the sentencing decision


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