Walking marathons

eviltwin

Does anyone know if such a thing exists? Or if any of the running events allow walkers to participate?

menoscemo

eviltwin wrote: »

Does anyone know if such a thing exists? Or if any of the running events allow walkers to participate?

Pretty much every Marathon is open to walkers. For example Dublin marathon has a 7.5 hr cut off. A decent walking pace should see you finish in about 6hrs.

A few Marathons have more aggressive cut off points so just check the rules and make sure you can finish inside the allotted time.

barryoneill50

Wait for.....waaaaait for it......:D

ThebitterLemon

Someone call a Doctor!

TbL

eviltwin

Not sure what the above replies are all about, its a genuine question for someone looking to do a charity event who isn't a runner not an invitation to take the piss. :mad:

Thanks Menoscemo for the serious reply, they did walk a half two years ago but they are an older person and felt a bit intimidated by all the runners. 7.5hrs is well within their range though so I'll put it to them, thanks again.

Chivito550

eviltwin wrote: »

Not sure what the above replies are all about, its a genuine question for someone looking to do a charity event who isn't a runner not an invitation to take the piss. :mad:

Thanks Menoscemo for the serious reply, they did walk a half two years ago but they are an older person and felt a bit intimidated by all the runners. 7.5hrs is well within their range though so I'll put it to them, thanks again.

This is a running forum. Walking marathons is pointless IMO. Why not do a long hike through the Wicklow mountains. Far more likely to get sponsorship money off people that way. Walking a marathon and then looking for money to do it will lead to the inevitable question from many "why are you not running it like most of the others?".

There really should be cut off times.

eviltwin

Chivito550 wrote: »

This is a running forum. Walking marathons is pointless IMO. Why not do a long hike through the Wicklow mountains. Far more likely to get sponsorship money off people that way. Walking a marathon and then looking for money to do it will lead to the inevitable question from many "why are you not running it like most of the others?".

There really should be cut off times.

Well seeing as there is no walking forum this seemed like the best place, the clue was in the thread title for anyone who is bothered by walkers. Its a person who was a runner in a former life, he is now unable to due to an amputation, yeah he could raise money doing a dedicated walk but he wants to walk a marathon as he used to run them in the past and I suppose they hold a special place in his heart. I did ask for ones for walkers if such a thing existed, as I runner myself I know how dismissive of walkers a lot of runners can be.

Chivito550

eviltwin wrote: »

Well seeing as there is no walking forum this seemed like the best place, the clue was in the thread title for anyone who is bothered by walkers. Its a person who was a runner in a former life, he is now unable to due to an amputation, yeah he could raise money doing a dedicated walk but he wants to walk a marathon as he used to run them in the past and I suppose they hold a special place in his heart. I did ask for ones for walkers if such a thing existed, as I runner myself I know how dismissive of walkers a lot of runners can be.

Well, that's different, and had you mentioned it in the first post then this could have been avoided. He is walking because he can't physically run. Much different to not running because he can't be arsed training for it, which is about 99% of people who walk marathons.

eviltwin

Chivito550 wrote: »

Well, that's different, and had you mentioned it in the first post then this could have been avoided. He is walking because he can't physically run. Much different to not running because he can't be arsed training for it, which is about 99% of people who walk marathons.

I'm just looking for info, didn't expect to have to justify it with the back story.

barryoneill50

Apologies if i came across as taking the piss as it was not my intention. I was merely anticipating the piss taking to follow. By all means if anyone wants to walk a marathon they should be encouraged to do so, and the very best of luck to your friend if he decides to give it a bash

username123

Typical responses here tbh. Who cares what the reason is why someone wants to walk a marathon? A request was made for some factual information and posters decided to judge and demean. No wonder it's off putting for new runners to post here.

ultrapercy

Chivito550 wrote: »

Well, that's different, and had you mentioned it in the first post then this could have been avoided. He is walking because he can't physically run. Much different to not running because he can't be arsed training for it, which is about 99% of people who walk marathons.

It could also have been avoided if you kept your high horse tied up in his stall,in all fairness.

menoscemo

BTW there is actually an annual Marathon designed especially for walkers.
Details here:
http://visitballyhoura.com/index.php/2014/03/26/ballyhoura-international-walking-festival-3/

eviltwin

menoscemo wrote: »

BTW there is actually an annual Marathon designed especially for walkers.
Details here:
http://visitballyhoura.com/index.php/2014/03/26/ballyhoura-international-walking-festival-3/

That is perfect, thank you!

physiopad

Please ignore the negativity/hostility eviltwin. The responses on here don't represent the welcoming nature of those involved in running in Ireland. So easy for smart alecs on here to hide behind a keyboard etc....

Anyway..

Dublin Marathon definitely facilitates walkers by letting them start early etc. You have 4-5 months to train for that. There are many people who walk lots of the smaller marathons around Ireland. Best maybe to email Organisers to double check which accept walkers but I think Dublin would be great for walkers because you'd have great crowd support.

Clonakilty Waterfront Marathon in December always has walkers and its a stunning course scenery but would be on fairly lonely country roads.

But definitely go for it!!

RayCun

physiopad wrote: »

Dublin Marathon definitely facilitates walkers by letting them start early etc.

Really? There is no mention on the website of an early start for walkers, and the rules say

Competitors must start the event at an officially sanctioned start time only

As far as I know, walkers are supposed to start in wave 3, after the runners not before

menoscemo

RayCun wrote: »

Really? There is no mention on the website of an early start for walkers, and the rules say

As far as I know, walkers are supposed to start in wave 3, after the runners not before

Yes that's right. Some 'celebrities' started early last year but I am pretty sure it was not sanctioned and they actually did it for selfish reasons (i.e. finish among the masses, not miss the cut off, get the adulation, medal etc). Some smaller Marathons like Clonakilty do however sanction walkers starting early.

Still in saying that. 7.5 hrs should be achievable for most walkers. I am pretty sure of the 'big' marathons in Ireland Dublin has the most generous cut-off. Cork for example has a 6hr cut off.

opus

menoscemo wrote: »

Still in saying that. 7.5 hrs should be achievable for most walkers. I am pretty sure of the 'big' marathons in Ireland Dublin has the most generous cut-off. Cork for example has a 6hr cut off.

For Cork the roads reopen but cut off is 8 hours for the finish.

Can I walk the marathon?

Yes. Walkers are very welcome to participate. Although there isn't a separate category for walkers, the course time limit should allow most walkers to cross the finish line. However, please note that in order to facilitate critical road reopenings -

• You must reach the Jack Lynch Tunnel (mile 7.2) by 11am.
  
• You must reach the South Link Road (mile 17.6) by 1pm. Both of these cut-off times are achievable at a pace of about 13.5mins/mile.

6 hours after the start (3pm), all roads will be re-opened and anyone left on the course must move to the pavements and adhere to normal traffic regulations. The finish line on St Patrick's Street, however, will stay in place until 17.00hrs if necessary.

Tigerandahalf

I can understand runners who have put 3 or 4 months of training into a marathon not wanting to be weaving through scores of walkers.
However, for the scenic marathons around the country there is a lot of potential to sign up walkers. When you consider our recent world champion Rob Heffernan triumphed in a 50k walking event, it should be promoted more. Granted he walks faster than the majority run. But when doing the half at Connemara I was thinking to myself while passing some of the casual walkers, that it is great to have events to walk, perhaps against the clock too. Whether both runner and walker can be combined is up for debate but smaller more scenic marathons could certainly attract people.

Oops69

I ran past an older man in the Phoenix park today , must have been early seventies , he was running a little and then fast walking mostly, but had the full gear, split shorts , singlet etc. , I.e , he looked like a runner , if I had stopped and asked he might have told me about his finishing times back in the seventies and eighties, possibly before some of the smart arses above were even born , if he wants to runs/ walk a marathon , I would suggest he's more entitled than some of the pseuodoelite deluded self promoters who post on here.

rom

It doesn't matter is someone walks, crawls, jogs, etc a marathon. All that matters is that the person is making an effort to their ability and not sandbagging. If they could run it but couldn't be bothered then that is another thing.

Izoard

I'm pretty sure all of us have walked during a marathon at some stage - very little difference between a fast walk and a slow run.

LynnGrace

menoscemo wrote: »

BTW there is actually an annual Marathon designed especially for walkers.
Details here:
http://visitballyhoura.com/index.php/2014/03/26/ballyhoura-international-walking-festival-3/

I saw ads for a walking week/ festival in Cavan, earlier this year also.

Esroh

Galway Walking Club hold a Marathon /half distance walk on the Western Way. Sat 9th of August.

http://galwaywalkingclub.wordpress.com/

jonny99

Also, a marathon primarily for walkers held in the Galtee mountains each Palm sunday.
Beautiful scenery, though possibly a bit rough underfoot in this case.

eviltwin

Thank you so much, I've passed on those details.

Mint Sauce

I think Belfast had an entry for walkers, pretty sure there was one in 2012 anyway. Think I remember Edinburgh having a 7 hr cut off in 2010 or 11.

barryoneill50

http://www.wicklowhospice.ie/three-day-festival-of-running/

I'd say most runs I have done, bar the ones as part of a triathlon, have had walkers.

And it's great to see, particularly in those village type runs when you get kids out, parents chatting with others and the like.

A small bit of a drag when trying to pass a group, but heck they have as much right to be there as anyone.

Remember, a lot of runners are now entering what used to be classic walking events, particularly say hikes across mountains. And surely there is room for all.

RayCun

Absolutely no problem with walkers in a marathon, as long as they abide by the race rules and follow race etiquette - starting behind the people who are faster than them so they don't get in the way. That doesn't apply just to walkers, but to people finishing the marathon in 5, 4, 3 or 2 and a half hours

TFBubendorfer

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Remember, a lot of runners are now entering what used to be classic walking events, particularly say hikes across mountains. And surely there is room for all.

But there is at least one walking event where they categorically state that they do not want runners.

http://www.sneemjfkchallenge.com/

Which I find highly irritating as it's just round the corner from me and I would absolutely love to run it. :rolleyes: Especially so as the JFK thing they are referring to is organised as a 50 mile RUNNING event in the states.

A friend of mine (usually a runner) did walk it a couple of years ago and recommends it (<-- to bring this back on topic). It's a 50 mile walk though, not a walking marathon.

nerraw1111

Does seem to be a bit of unnecessary tension between some walkers and runners.

Bit of that evident during Art O'Neill and you do get some less than helpful walkers while out running on the hills on occasion.

Don’t understand it myself. It’s the same pastime more or less. Particularly in the mountains, it seems a bit odd to exclude runners, particularly on a 50 mile route when the course is going to be open for 20 hours.

We’re all doing it because we enjoy the outdoors.

Cabaal

Gota say I have no real problem with runners in marathons, only issues that are created is if they decide to string themselves right across the road making it difficult to pass.

rom

RayCun wrote: »

Absolutely no problem with walkers in a marathon, as long as they abide by the race rules and follow race etiquette - starting behind the people who are faster than them so they don't get in the way. That doesn't apply just to walkers, but to people finishing the marathon in 5, 4, 3 or 2 and a half hours

I do have an issue with people starting a marathon before the actual start like a few do in DCM. The race starts at x. You should get no result if you start early especially if your first name is Karl and second name Henry.

RayCun

rom wrote: »

I do have an issue with people starting a marathon before the actual start like a few do in DCM. The race starts at x. You should get no result if you start early especially if your first name is Karl and second name Henry.

Yeah, that's why I said "as long as they abide by the race rules"

Cabaal

rom wrote: »

I do have an issue with people starting a marathon before the actual start like a few do in DCM. The race starts at x. You should get no result if you start early especially if your first name is Karl and second name Henry.

Isn't Karl Henry able to run? why would he be starting before the official start time?

Ososlo

Cabaal wrote: »

Isn't Karl Henry able to run? why would he be starting before the official start time?

I think he was supporting some runners with 'special needs' like some journalist or other :rolleyes:

nerraw1111

He accompanied the guy that appeared on Ray Darcy every month or so. He lost loads of weight and decided to do the marathon. He started early before official start in order to finish the race while the course was still open.

This annoyed some people for various reasons.

RayCun

nerraw1111 wrote: »

He accompanied the guy that appeared on Ray Darcy every month or so. He lost loads of weight and decided to do the marathon. He started early before official start in order to finish the race while the course was still open.

This annoyed some people for various reasons.

The guy (he posted on here briefly) walked Dublin marathon one year, finishing after the course closed.
He walked it again the following year, not much faster?, starting a couple of hours early to finish while the course was open.
I just think he (and the other walkers who start early) should follow the rules of the race.

rom

nerraw1111 wrote: »

He accompanied the guy that appeared on Ray Darcy every month or so. He lost loads of weight and decided to do the marathon. He started early before official start in order to finish the race while the course was still open.

This annoyed some people for various reasons.

Especially since he advocates starting early if you can't finish it within the time limit rather than do some more training. If you can't do it within the limit then you shouldn't be doing the race.

groovyg

nerraw1111 wrote: »

He accompanied the guy that appeared on Ray Darcy every month or so. He lost loads of weight and decided to do the marathon. He started early before official start in order to finish the race while the course was still open.

This annoyed some people for various reasons.

I didn't think Karl Henry had anything to do Gary Kirwan running the marathon, aside from getting Ray Darcy involved, he went to Motivation weight loss clinic and I think his coach at the time was Chris Delooze in Limerick.

At DCM in 2012 Karl accompanied this lady Jillian McNulty a CF sufferer on the 2012 marathon, it was part of the Spartan Challenge http://www.cfireland.ie/pdf/Jillian_McNulty.pdf

I was out supporting in Terenure and I remember seeing both of them walk by, they were both walking to the side of the course and weren't getting in anybodys way.

RayCun

I think this woman started at the correct time
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=87246259&postcount=964

menoscemo

RayCun wrote: »

I think this woman started at the correct time
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=87246259&postcount=964

And beat me to post of the year

Actually I think she got special dispensation from DCM to start early (if I'm not wrong??). While others started early for selfish reasons...

RayCun

menoscemo wrote: »

And beat me to post of the year

Actually I think she got special dispensation from DCM to start early (if I'm not wrong??). While others started early for selfish reasons...

Don't think so. She's listed among the finishers (unlike Karl henry and Jillian McNulty), and her split times show a first half not much faster than her second. I think I saw her on Nassau Street not long after the start.

menoscemo

RayCun wrote: »

Don't think so. She's listed among the finishers (unlike Karl henry and Jillian McNulty), and her split times show a first half not much faster than her second. I think I saw her on Nassau Street not long after the start.

Yes, you're right. She started at 9:20am

rom

Can't I just detest this guy please:

http://karlhenry.ie/karl-henry

http://karlhenry.ie/online-store

3:45 ish seems to be his marathon PB. Hardly warranting the 70 euro per hr price tag from someone who considers themselves a runner and fitness professional of TV standard.

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Rule are rule. This guy wrote an article about if you don't think you are going to finish on time then simply start early as its a lot more congested last year. I'd ban him from the race if I had my way.

TFBubendorfer

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Can we please stop the Karl Henry discussion and get back on topic?
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TFBubendorfer

TFBubendorfer wrote: »

But there is at least one walking event where they categorically state that they do not want runners.

http://www.sneemjfkchallenge.com/

Which I find highly irritating as it's just round the corner from me and I would absolutely love to run it. :rolleyes: Especially so as the JFK thing they are referring to is organised as a 50 mile RUNNING event in the states.

A friend of mine (usually a runner) did walk it a couple of years ago and recommends it (<-- to bring this back on topic). It's a 50 mile walk though, not a walking marathon.

Not sure how, short of having the marshals you see at race walks, they could police it. I think one way would be checking shoes and insisting on boots, but even that wouldn't stop one breaking into a trot. Knowing some who enter it thought and who have done well, can kinda understand the desire though. One half decent runner would obliterate the times of all others and might mean that future years would see a reduced entry. So while I've thought about it, the thought of a 50 mile walk on roads would not appeal to me that much, and kinda feel leave them have one event that's still really aimed squarely at the walking market. Even saw some in their Inov8s running the Maamturks Challenge this year which meant they changed shoes after the mandatory kit check.

TFBubendorfer

Deleted User wrote: »

Not sure how, short of having the marshals you see at race walks, they could police it.

I can only talk for myself, but for me it's not a question of policing it. There is no way I would sneak into any event as a runner if they categorically state that they only allow walkers. That would be totally disrespectful towards the organisers and obnoxious behaviour.

Deleted User wrote:

Knowing some who enter it thought and who have done well, can kinda understand the desire though. One half decent runner would obliterate the times of all others and might mean that future years would see a reduced entry.

To be honest, I can't see that point at all. It's not a race and times mean f*ck all in that kind of event. Why would runners suddenly ruin it for the walkers? Nothing would have changed for them!

TFBubendorfer

TFBubendorfer wrote: »

I can only talk for myself, but for me it's not a question of policing it. There is no way I would sneak into any event as a runner if they categorically state that they only allow walkers. That would be totally disrespectful towards the organisers and obnoxious behaviour.

To be honest, I can't see that point at all. It's not a race and times mean f*ck all in that kind of event. Why would runners suddenly ruin it for the walkers? Nothing would have changed for them!

Oh as amongst themselves they know who did it fastest. Or at least I've heard who "won" it before anyway, even if it's not supposed to be competitive. Same as the Maamturks Crossing again, there is no time keeping at all, but fellows will still try to do it as fast as possible. That one would be frankly dangerous in runners, the descent to Maam Ochoige would be particularly exposed, but fellows do it still. The Sneem one wouldn't have that limitation at all, I think it's all on road so runners would probably be the best footwear anyway. Without wishing to annoy anyone reading this who has done it by suggesting it is aimed at the middle aged rambler rather than the athlete...it kinda seems to be.

john guiry

eviltwin wrote: »

Does anyone know if such a thing exists? Or if any of the running events allow walkers to participate?

most marathons allow walkers. remember its 26 miles no matter bhow long it takes someone to do it