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Should Children's allowance be paid untill childs 27th birthday ?

  • 08-06-2014 2:34pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 60 ✭✭


    In Luxembourg Childrens allowance is paid to parents until their child is 27 years old. should the same be done in ireland? I think it would be a great thing.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,555 ✭✭✭SuperSean11


    No


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,544 ✭✭✭✭McDermotX


    Good jaysus !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16 Mystery_who


    I think Child's allowance should be paid until child leaves the home. But at 27, they are an adult, and really should be starting with their own life and becoming independent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,592 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Might as well ask the obvious.

    Why 27?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,009 ✭✭✭umop.episdn


    Why stop at 27?, 35 seems to be a much better age to me


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,381 ✭✭✭✭Allyall


    And lower OAP allowance to 30. Perfect. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,533 ✭✭✭Donkey Oaty


    Uepped wrote: »
    In Luxembourg Childrens allowance is paid to parents until their child is 27 years old. should the same be done in ireland? I think it would be a great thing.

    Only if they're a full-time student though...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,687 ✭✭✭✭Penny Tration


    Pay Children's Allowance for an adult? Nah.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,744 ✭✭✭diomed


    It is a tax on childless people.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    Uepped wrote: »
    In Luxembourg Childrens allowance is paid to parents until their child is 27 years old. should the same be done in ireland? I think it would be a great thing.
    Luxembourg could afford to pay child allowance to chimpanzees if they wanted. We can't.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,147 ✭✭✭PizzamanIRL


    That's a grown ass child.


  • Posts: 26,052 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Uepped wrote: »
    In Luxembourg Childrens allowance is paid to parents until their child is 27 years old. should the same be done in ireland? I think it would be a great thing.

    And how would you finance it?
    diomed wrote: »
    It is a tax on childless people.

    No more than the portion of your tax that goes on healthcare could be considered a tax on the healthy.

    I don't drink or smoke, but I don't consider any portion of my tax that goes to treating related illnesses as a tax on my choices.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,650 ✭✭✭cooperguy


    Why in the hell would you do that. Luxembourg do it to encourage people to move and stay there (and they have a lot more money!). It makes no sense to do it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    OP you also wanted, on another thread, to give dole to all students during your summer holidays. I think you need to take a look at how economies work, or don't work. Would you like an allowance while at college irrespective of means and a living wage when you graduate, without the need to secure employment, while we're at it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 54 ✭✭Follaton_Wood


    I don't know any 27 year old children.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,094 ✭✭✭The Cool


    In fairness, they keep the dole low for under 25's as they seem to think that we still rely on our parents til then, so by their own logic shouldn't they pay parents child allowance til then too?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 54 ✭✭Follaton_Wood


    The Cool wrote: »
    In fairness, they keep the dole low for under 25's as they seem to think that we still rely on our parents til then, so by their own logic shouldn't they pay parents child allowance til then too?

    That's fcuking ridiculous too. When you're 18, you're an adult. Get a job and work your way up, or get a job and save for college. You'd want to be some tool to be hitting up your parents for childrens allowance, or any money for that matter, at 25 years of age.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,277 ✭✭✭Cheshire Cat


    Gemany pays children's allowance up to the age of 25, providing that the "child" is in full-time education (e.g. University) as the parents still have a duty of maintenance. I suspect it's similar in Luxembourg.


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 12,641 Mod ✭✭✭✭2011


    Uepped wrote: »
    In Luxembourg Childrens allowance is paid to parents until their child is 27 years old. should the same be done in ireland?

    Exactly how would you expect this to be funded?
    If this was affordable do you really think that this would be the best use of tax payer's money?
    I think it would be a great thing.

    By any chance are you are under the age of 27 and are not employed? :rolleyes:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,790 ✭✭✭maguic24


    Uepped wrote: »
    In Luxembourg Childrens allowance is paid to parents until their child is 27 years old. should the same be done in ireland? I think it would be a great thing.

    Eh.....No!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,014 ✭✭✭Maphisto


    Luxembourg could afford to pay child allowance to chimpanzees if they wanted. We can't.

    Exactly. Everyone has some bright scheme for this or that - we can't afford it.

    I did read once that to be a successful finance minister, you had to be a bit deaf to all the good causes and special pleading, thick skinned for the insults and name calling, and tunnel visioned - leaving any wider thinking to others :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    Maphisto wrote: »
    Exactly. Everyone has some bright scheme for this or that - we can't afford it.

    I did read once that to be a successful finance minister, you had to be a bit deaf to all the good causes and special pleading, thick skinned for the insults and name calling, and tunnel visioned - leaving any wider thinking to others :)

    My former octogenarian boss always said being popular means you're fcuk all good at doing your job.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,894 ✭✭✭UCDVet


    Meh - I'm kind of tired of everyone treating full grown adults because they are taking a few classes. I'm sorry, I just don't get it.

    I've got an undergraduate degree and a post-graduate degree. My wife is finishing up her post-graduate work at UCD. I know what it's like to be a student. I just don't see why everyone feels the need to treat them as somehow special.

    Like, 'Oh, you go to classes a few times a week? Well, you're not a real person then, we don't expect you to take care of yourself. Here, we'll put you down as a 'child' until you are nearly 30....because, we know how hard it is to go to class'.

    Meanwhile, go hang out with some of these students on a Thursday night. Somehow, it seems we always manage to have money and time enough for some drinking. Friday night and Saturday night won't be any different.

    It's really hard for me to take students seriously after seeing first-hand the amount of effort that typically goes into their studies. I keep hearing how these institutes of higher learning are shaping the minds of our future generation and how we should be sure to pay for it, because these students are going to be running the country and all that jazz. But I just see a bunch of people kicking back, getting pissed 3-4 times per week, and generally having a blast. Not sure why hard working people are supposed to fund that at all, and I'm not sure why everyone wants to encourage more benefits for them to do it.

    I also don't think it's right to say that some professions are more deserving than others. If your career path means you'll be in Uni until you are 30, why should you be treated differently than someone whose career path doesn't? Hardly seems fair. If someone wants to be vet because they love animals - should they be treated as children for tax purposes, while someone else who wants to be a mechanic because they love working on cars isn't eligible?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,301 ✭✭✭The One Who Knocks


    It should be paid until you die because we're all God's children.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,382 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    I'm not a fan of childrens allowence. Why should the Government pay someone for having kids? It should be a case of the parents not having kids until they can afford them. But, it's not going to change now.

    As for the question, no.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,537 ✭✭✭Arthur Beesley


    Uepped wrote: »
    In Luxembourg Childrens allowance is paid to parents until their child is 27 years old. should the same be done in ireland? I think it would be a great thing.

    We should also match the Luxembourg amount - what is that again?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,537 ✭✭✭Arthur Beesley


    It should be paid until you die because we're all God's children.

    The atheists would object to that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,219 ✭✭✭woodoo


    18


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,288 ✭✭✭✭RobbingBandit


    Jebus OP are you trying to burn After Hours down, this thread will get hotter than Lindsay Lohan doing a backwards crab walk.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,068 ✭✭✭LoonyLovegood


    In fairness, it should at least be paid until the child does their Leaving Cert. It's only paid till you're 18 here, I turned 18 in the middle of sixth year, and my siblings will all do the same. Till 27 is ridiculous though.


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