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Child benefits & registering

  • 08-06-2014 11:37am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9


    Hi, quick question, I hope someone can answer.
    So I'm Irish and was born in Ireland, but I'm living in Poland with my Polish girlfriend and we have just had our first baby. I want to register my child as an Irish citizen and am just looking for some tips on the process. Do I need to go back to Ireland or can I register him and get a birth cert online and over the phone?
    Are we entitled to any child benefits? It doesn't say anywhere on the citizen's information site that you have to be living in Ireland so I just want to clear that up.
    Thanks for the help :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,411 ✭✭✭ABajaninCork


    AFAIK, you don't need to go to Ireland to register the baby as Irish. You need to register with the Irish Embassy in Poland. I also think you have to be resident in Ireland to claim Irish Child Benefit

    Dept of Foreign Affairs Born Abroad tells you how.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48 Technophobia


    You need to satisfy the Habitual Residence Conditions if not from Ireland.

    As your child was not born here, you cannot register them at the hospital/births&deaths centre so will need to satisfy those conditions

    look at citizens information for more. I cant link to it as apparently I am still new.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,411 ✭✭✭ABajaninCork


    Here is the link showing the guidelines used when assessing for Child Benefit. Like I said: Looks as though YOU have to be resident here and satisfy the Habitual Residence Conditions to claim...

    I know you can claim for children living in the EU if you live here, but it doesn't work the other way round...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,859 ✭✭✭GerardKeating


    Darsh123 wrote: »
    Hi, quick question, I hope someone can answer.
    So I'm Irish and was born in Ireland, but I'm living in Poland with my Polish girlfriend and we have just had our first baby. I want to register my child as an Irish citizen and am just looking for some tips on the process. Do I need to go back to Ireland or can I register him and get a birth cert online and over the phone?
    Are we entitled to any child benefits? It doesn't say anywhere on the citizen's information site that you have to be living in Ireland so I just want to clear that up.
    Thanks for the help :)

    You can (if you want) register with Foreign Affairs. This is mainly to record the fact that they are an Irish Citizen, but you might first check any Polish issues with Dual Citizenship.

    As long as both Ireland and Poland remain in the EU, they is little advantage to Dual citizenship. The only "advantage" seems to be that Ireland is part of the "Visa Waiver Program/ESTA" program for Visa-free entry into the US, but Poland is not currently part of it.

    For Child Benefit to be claimed, at least one parent (but not the child) needs to be resident in Ireland. Where parents live in different EU countries, the parents have the choice of which EU country to claim Child Benefit in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,859 ✭✭✭GerardKeating


    You need to satisfy the Habitual Residence Conditions if not from Ireland.

    Not 100% correct, you "need to satisfy the Habitual Residence Conditions even if you are from Ireland"...

    If the OP wants to claim in Ireland, if/when he returns, he would need to prove he had cut ties with his polish residency.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9 Darsh123


    Ah thanks everyone, very quick and very helpful.
    So basically I want to register him for dual citizenship just because I can.
    Then with regards to the child benefit it looks like we are not eligible, so we'll do it through the Polish system.
    Thanks everyone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,859 ✭✭✭GerardKeating


    Darsh123 wrote: »
    Ah thanks everyone, very quick and very helpful.
    So basically I want to register him for dual citizenship just because I can.
    Then with regards to the child benefit it looks like we are not eligible, so we'll do it through the Polish system.
    Thanks everyone.

    And congratulations on the new arrival...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9 Darsh123


    Thanks :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,501 ✭✭✭lonestargirl


    You don't register your child as an Irish citizen - he is automatically one. You can register him in the foreign births register if you want. My son was born in the US and to get his Irish passport we just needed to send ours off too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,859 ✭✭✭GerardKeating


    You don't register your child as an Irish citizen - he is automatically one. You can register him in the foreign births register if you want. My son was born in the US and to get his Irish passport we just needed to send ours off too.

    Technically yes, there is no need to register, the child is automatically a citizen, but it's easy to do now, and avoid "complications" in 15/20 years time when original documents/proof might have gotten lost.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,228 ✭✭✭mrsbyrne


    Technically yes, there is no need to register, the child is automatically a citizen, but it's easy to do now, and avoid "complications" in 15/20 years time when original documents/proof might have gotten lost.

    Just apply for a passport for your child to the Irish consolute in Poland. You can't get CB unless your living here.


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