IFJ apologies and clarifications

merryberry

Another week, another inaccuracy...this time its to arrabawn co-op. Has anyone else noticed the recent spate of apologies and clarifications that the IFJ have to issue. Is this normal journalism. Not every one gets it right in their job all the time, and that most definitely includes me, but it is very careless and lazy with the result that it does papers credibility no good at all.

Kovu

No it is not normal journalistic practice. Ideally there would be 2/3 sources for information but if a single source seems/has been in the past, truthful & correct in the information they provide, it will be regarded as a good source and run with it as news.

rangler1

.Kovu. wrote: »

No it is not normal journalistic practice. Ideally there would be 2/3 sources for information but if a single source seems/has been in the past, truthful & correct in the information they provide, it will be regarded as a good source and run with it as news.

Their explanation of the pesticides directive is wrong too

micraX

The Irish Farmers journal is a **** paper. They do **** all on tillage and vegetable Production. I was sending them pictures of mislabeled goods in supermarkets.(sign up said it was Irish, pack said it wasn't) they where not interested and blocked me from their facebook.

larrymiller

micraX wrote: »

The Irish Farmers journal is a **** paper. They do **** all on tillage and vegetable Production. I was sending them pictures of mislabeled goods in supermarkets.(sign up said it was Irish, pack said it wasn't) they where not interested and blocked me from their facebook.

Should be called the dairy farmers journal

whelan2

larrymiller wrote: »

Should be called the dairy farmers journal

what are there other types of farming in ireland;) stopped buying farmers journal a few weeks ago. Thought it was very poor journalism that there wasnt even a mention of the "bute" story -i know the farming indo sensationalised it but thought it was very bad on farmers journals part.

micraX

larrymiller wrote: »

Should be called the dairy farmers journal

Iv said that to them before, maybe that's why the blocked me.

blue5000

merryberry wrote: »

Another week, another inaccuracy...this time its to arrabawn co-op. Has anyone else noticed the recent spate of apologies and clarifications that the IFJ have to issue. Is this normal journalism. Not every one gets it right in their job all the time, and that most definitely includes me, but it is very careless and lazy with the result that it does papers credibility no good at all.

Just to get back to the origin of the story. Arrabawn were very heavy handed round here last aug-sept keeping money off cheques to dairy farmers for feed and fertiliser purchased earlier in 2013. I know of one case where 2/3 of a farmers milk cheque was kept by the co-op. Does arrabawn management think that they are the only ones that farmers owe money to?
I think the bigger you are in arrabawn co-op the more co-operation you get in the form of merchant credit, interest discounts and flexi-milk allocations.

Reggie.

whelan2 wrote: »

what are there other types of farming in ireland;) stopped buying farmers journal a few weeks ago. Thought it was very poor journalism that there wasnt even a mention of the "bute" story -i know the farming indo sensationalised it but thought it was very bad on farmers journals part.

Nearly in that boat myself

rangler1

blue5000 wrote: »

Just to get back to the origin of the story. Arrabawn were very heavy handed round here last aug-sept keeping money off cheques to dairy farmers for feed and fertiliser purchased earlier in 2013. I know of one case where 2/3 of a farmers milk cheque was kept by the co-op. Does arrabawn management think that they are the only ones that farmers owe money to?
I think the bigger you are in arrabawn co-op the more co-operation you get in the form of merchant credit, interest discounts and flexi-milk allocations.

Merchants always have to reduce their borrowing around then so they can pay for grain and they're still waiting on a lot of money owed since spring 2013. A lot of the merchants are over extended too.....

Conmaicne Mara

rangler1 wrote: »

Merchants always have to reduce their borrowing around then so they can pay for grain and they're still waiting on a lot of money owed since spring 2013. A lot of the merchants are over extended too.....

Would agree with that, know of two merchants in this area allegedly went bust due to non payment. A third sailed very close to the wind on the same issue but managed not to go under.

On IFJ I would like to see them print what the actual farmers are saying about some subjects instead of printing relatively small articles about same but constantly filling them up with the Minister for the AgriFood Industry's spin.

That would be a welcome change, if they have the stones for it.

rangler1

Conmaicne Mara wrote: »

Would agree with that, know of two merchants in this area allegedly went bust due to non payment. A third sailed very close to the wind on the same issue but managed not to go under.

On IFJ I would like to see them print what the actual farmers are saying about some subjects instead of printing relatively small articles about same but constantly filling them up with the Minister for the AgriFood Industry's spin.

That would be a welcome change, if they have the stones for it.

I don't think even the indo would be brave enough to do that, you have to be careful in an interview......actually had an indo guy here today, hope he doesn't hang me

Conmaicne Mara

rangler1 wrote: »

I don't think even the indo would be brave enough to do that, you have to be careful in an interview......actually had an indo guy here today, hope he doesn't hang me

Thing is, they're not interviews. They're supposedly opinion pieces which are filled up with spin & regurgitating old news in case, God forbid, what farmers are actually saying gets said.

Opinion pieces is probably the wrong term, watered down statements may be a better one.

rangler1

Conmaicne Mara wrote: »

Thing is, they're not interviews. They're supposedly opinion pieces which are filled up with spin & regurgitating old news in case, God forbid, what farmers are actually saying gets said.

Opinion pieces is probably the wrong term, watered down statements may be a better one.

If I write a letter to the journal, I put a note in telling them to either leave it out or put it in complete....but don't edit it, and most times it gets in.
Some have been hot enough, as you can imagine
IFJ would be writing IFA policy coming from the various committees which you have elected representation on.....so they are writing what the farmers are saying. The reps are ordinary farmers who'd have an interest in what happens outside the farm gate, but are well grounded in farming too

jt65

rangler1 wrote: »

Merchants always have to reduce their borrowing around then so they can pay for grain and they're still waiting on a lot of money owed since spring 2013. A lot of the merchants are over extended too.....

but can a merchant take money from your (or mine ) bank a/c without permission?

that's basically what the co op was doing , most suppliers have a milk a/c and a trading a/c
holding money from the milk cheque to pay off the trading a/c without consulting the supplier is not on

Reggie.

jt65 wrote: »

but can a merchant take money from your (or mine ) bank a/c without permission?

that's basically what the co op was doing , most suppliers have a milk a/c and a trading a/c
holding money from the milk cheque to pay off the trading a/c without consulting the supplier is not on

Doesn't sound right at all

frazzledhome

jt65 wrote: »

but can a merchant take money from your (or mine ) bank a/c without permission?

that's basically what the co op was doing , most suppliers have a milk a/c and a trading a/c
holding money from the milk cheque to pay off the trading a/c without consulting the supplier is not on

They aren't taking from your bank ac.

If you owe money to Revenue and make claim for Vat refund they will also offset. I dint see the problem. It's all about spotting a cash flow problem and dealing with it. I'd wager that people who had monies stopped didn't do anything to address the problem

A cow called Daisy

jt65 wrote: »

but can a merchant take money from your (or mine ) bank a/c without permission?

that's basically what the co op was doing , most suppliers have a milk a/c and a trading a/c
holding money from the milk cheque to pay off the trading a/c without consulting the supplier is not on

Going off original post about the journal and onto the issue of milk cheques
Lakeland do the same. Kept taking money from milk cheque on me last year despite promises that it not happen again. Accepted that I owed them money and they would get it when I got what I was owed by a third party. While I wanted to support them by buying their goods i wanted their support in return. Whole thing nearly drive me to end of my tether. Literally:eek::eek:

Now I buy meal and fertiliser elsewhere. Have account cleared with lakeland and wont be included in their accounts as a bad debt which they do have

Don't know if they any happier but I KNOW I am:D:D