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Rustproofing, how to do it properly?

  • 05-06-2014 1:22pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,607 ✭✭✭


    Hi guys, long story short, I'm picking up a "modern classic" ,well what i would consider one anyways, on saturday, and want to get stuck into it straight away, first to be done is rust proofing it, and removal of whatever surface rust is on there, i've checked it over and it seems fairly solid bar one or two patches of surface rust on the doors and bonnet

    My intentions are to strip the car as best i can, I don't have many tools or a garage so I want to get it done during the good weather, rust proof it with waxoyl, kurust or hammerite, and re assemble, would this be right?

    So can someone here, give me a guide as such to how to go about doing this properly, or point me towards a file/video, or anything on the topic :)

    Thank ya!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,946 ✭✭✭Bigus


    Maybe a hint of what make and model would be a help. Personally I think some people go overboard, when a simple bit of retardation of rust might suffice, keeping the car indoors is the best rustproofing ever, in Ireland anyway.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,607 ✭✭✭toastedpickles


    Bigus wrote: »
    Maybe a hint of what make and model would be a help. Personally I think some people go overboard, when a simple bit of retardation of rust might suffice, keeping the car indoors is the best rustproofing ever, in Ireland anyway.

    I don't have space inside sadly :( its a saab 900, I do all my work outside on my drive. been trying to get a garage but no luck so far


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,107 ✭✭✭hi5


    Grind the visible rust off with a wire brush then paint a rust remover (phosphoric acid) into the bare metal and let it dry into, make sure its well dry, then paint a zinc primer onto that and go from there with your paint.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,607 ✭✭✭toastedpickles


    hi5 wrote: »
    Grind the visible rust off with a wire brush then paint a rust remover (phosphoric acid) into the bare metal and let it dry into, make sure its well dry, then paint a zinc primer onto that and go from there with your paint.

    Perfect, that's what i need, thank you!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,280 ✭✭✭commited


    Have a look at the bilthamber stuff - it's meant to be incredible.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51 ✭✭irshmerc


    Hi,
    POR-15 has a good system, plenty of videos on youtube.

    Good luck


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,607 ✭✭✭toastedpickles


    commited wrote: »
    Have a look at the bilthamber stuff - it's meant to be incredible.
    irshmerc wrote: »
    Hi,
    POR-15 has a good system, plenty of videos on youtube.

    Good luck

    Thanks lads!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 143 ✭✭Trollhättan


    Hi,

    It's a job I have to tackle on my own C900 too. There are a good few threads over on uksaabs detailing areas that would need particular attention on 900's...drive shaft tunnel, inner wings, battery tray, door bottoms.....

    https://www.google.ie/search?num=20&newwindow=1&site=&source=hp&q=rust+900+site%3Auksaabs.co.uk&oq=rust

    http://www.uksaabs.co.uk/UKS/search.php?keywords=rust+900&terms=all&author=&sc=1&sf=all&sk=t&sd=d&sr=posts&st=0&ch=300&t=0&submit=Search

    This from saabcentral.com may also be of interest.... Where do 900's rust?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,607 ✭✭✭toastedpickles


    Hi,

    It's a job I have to tackle on my own C900 too. There are a good few threads over on uksaabs detailing areas that would need particular attention on 900's...drive shaft tunnel, inner wings, battery tray, door bottoms.....

    https://www.google.ie/search?num=20&newwindow=1&site=&source=hp&q=rust+900+site%3Auksaabs.co.uk&oq=rust

    http://www.uksaabs.co.uk/UKS/search.php?keywords=rust+900&terms=all&author=&sc=1&sf=all&sk=t&sd=d&sr=posts&st=0&ch=300&t=0&submit=Search

    This from saabcentral.com may also be of interest.... Where do 900's rust?

    Lovely, that's all the info i need :D

    Much obliged!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,037 ✭✭✭shagman


    Bilt hamber products, Por 15, Fertan and Rust Bullet are all worth looking at.
    I brought mine back to bare metal and repainted with rust bullet.
    http://www.irishstreetrods.com/newsite/deforum/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=1131


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,607 ✭✭✭toastedpickles


    shagman wrote: »
    Bilt hamber products, Por 15, Fertan and Rust Bullet are all worth looking at.
    I brought mine back to bare metal and repainted with rust bullet.
    http://www.irishstreetrods.com/newsite/deforum/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=1131

    Thanks for that, I've started getting stuck into it, there's a bit more rust than I expected, so I'm thinking maybe sandblasting or something at this stage, but that would be a bit pricey, so i might strip the car down and go to town on it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 72 ✭✭hazza


    hi5 wrote: »
    Grind the visible rust off with a wire brush then paint a rust remover (phosphoric acid) into the bare metal and let it dry into, make sure its well dry, then paint a zinc primer onto that and go from there with your paint.

    I've started rustproofing my 78 bmw but after wire-brushing and sanding the rust off I applied that red oxide stuff as a primer. Would this be ok as a base to paint over or am i just wasting my time?
    Was also thinking of waxoyling the hard to reach inner panels / frames etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,266 ✭✭✭MercMad


    Just FYI but I would use Dinotrol instead of Waxoyl, its a superior product and available from CleanCar.ie, I have no affiliation with either company or product. You can also get manuals from Dinotrol about where to apply and what product to use.

    The first thing I would do is strip undergaurds, wheel arch covers etc. and git it a really thorough clean, get all the mud/muck and other crap off it. Let it dry for a few days, treat the rust as the guys say above and then go through each part, panel by panel. Take your time so you'll never have to do it again. Warming the Dinotrol prior to application makes it far easier.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 72 ✭✭hazza


    Yeah had heard of Dinotrol and will look up that website thanks.
    Guess there's no quick fix just have to be patient and do it once.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,607 ✭✭✭toastedpickles


    MercMad wrote: »
    Just FYI but I would use Dinotrol instead of Waxoyl, its a superior product and available from CleanCar.ie, I have no affiliation with either company or product. You can also get manuals from Dinotrol about where to apply and what product to use.

    The first thing I would do is strip undergaurds, wheel arch covers etc. and git it a really thorough clean, get all the mud/muck and other crap off it. Let it dry for a few days, treat the rust as the guys say above and then go through each part, panel by panel. Take your time so you'll never have to do it again. Warming the Dinotrol prior to application makes it far easier.

    Thanks for the tip, I've checked the arches and they seem ok, the worst of it seems to be the doors and the engine bay, so the first thing im gearing up towards is getting the engine out and taking care of that area, then work my way back through to the boot


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