New Build - advice please

EmmetF

Hi, could someone take a look at my requirements and offer some advice on a good business computer build? I've started one in post 2 below.

1. What is your budget? €500 - €650
2. What will be the main purpose of the computer? AutoCAD, Revit and general office use.
3. Do you need a copy of Windows? Yes (several copies as I'll be making a few of these builds if the 1st goes well)
4. Can you use any parts from an old computer? No.
5. Do you need a monitor? No
5b. If no, what resolution is your current monitor and do you plan to upgrade in the near future? It's at 1280 X 1024 but it can go to 1920 X 1440. Not upgrading in the near future.
6. Do you need any of these peripherals? Just a card reader.
7. Are you willing to try overclocking? Yes
8. How can you pay? Bank Transfer/Credit Card/Laser/Paypal
9. When are you purchasing? Within the next month if all goes well.
10. If you need help building it, where are you based? Based in Naas, Co. Kildare but I should be ok with the build.

The computer is for an engineering firm which mostly uses AutoCAD 2D work but we will need to do some 3D work in the future with Revit software.

Storage space on the computer is not essential as everything is on the server so I'm thinking an SSD would be the way to go.

Thanks in advance.

EmmetF

Here's what I have at the moment. Can anyone recommend any better parts? Are these all compatible?

Item|Price
Crucial M500 120GB SATA 6GB/s 6,4CM (2,5") 7mm|€56.90
Super Flower Amazon 80Plus Bronze Netzteil - 450 Watt|€43.31
BitFenix Merc Beta|€32.89
Windows 8.1 Pro 64-Bit (SB-Version)|€117.50
LogiLink USB 2.0 all-in-one Card Reader, für 3,5" Einbauchschacht|€3.38
Intel Core i3-3250 Box, LGA1155|€95.55
Club 3D HD3450 512MB GDDR2, ATI Radeon HD3450, AGP|€42.07
8GB-Kit G.Skill Ares PC3-12800U CL9-9-9-24|€67.84
ASRock B75 Pro3, Sockel 1155, ATX|€55.39
Shipping|€18.99
Total|€530.13

frozenfrozen

EmmetF wrote: »

Here's what I have at the moment. Can anyone recommend any better parts? Are these all compatible?

Item|Price
Crucial M500 120GB SATA 6GB/s 6,4CM (2,5") 7mm|€56.90
Super Flower Amazon 80Plus Bronze Netzteil - 450 Watt|€43.31
BitFenix Merc Beta|€32.89
Windows 8.1 Pro 64-Bit (SB-Version)|€117.50
LogiLink USB 2.0 all-in-one Card Reader, für 3,5" Einbauchschacht|€3.38
Intel Core i3-4130 Box, LGA1150|€91.86
Club 3D HD3450 512MB GDDR2, ATI Radeon HD3450, AGP|€42.07
8GB-Kit G.Skill Ares PC3-12800U CL9-9-9-24|€67.84
ASRock B75 Pro3, Sockel 1155, ATX|€55.39
Shipping|€18.99
Total|€530.13

On my phone at the moment so can't spec but you don't need to spend 117 euro (!!!!!!!) on windows. You can buy a windows 8 key for $10 on reddit software swap. 8 can be upgraded to 8.1 for free through Microsoft. So that's another 110 euro on the budget

EmmetF

frozenfrozen wrote: »

On my phone at the moment so can't spec but you don't need to spend 117 euro (!!!!!!!) on windows. You can buy a windows 8 key for $10 on reddit software swap. 8 can be upgraded to 8.1 for free through Microsoft. So that's another 110 euro on the budget

Never heard of Software Swap, is it legit? I'll look in to it thanks.

t1Ringo

Yeah its Legit

DERPY DERPFACE

Your CPU is socket 1150 but your motherboard us a socket 1155. You should replace it with a h81 1150 motherboard. You should be looking to spend at least 150 on the gpu.

miece16

here's the build i did a few weeks ago

Addled

You need to change the motherboard to a socket 1150 to use the newer i3, I would go for something like the GA-B85M-D2V.

The ram is also a bit dated, this is cheaper, faster and also includes heat spreaders : 8GB-Kit Crucial Ballistix Sport Series DDR3-1600, CL9

The Samsung SSD is faster than the m500 but it would be hard to notice the difference. I think they have slightly better reliability too which is why they are a little more expensive.

You'll also need a pci-express graphics card not AGP but I'm not too well up on good cards for autocad.

And some people are getting very cheap legitimate windows licences off reddit software swap like this thread.

EmmetF

DERPY DERPFACE wrote: »

Your CPU is socket 1150 but your motherboard us a socket 1155. You should replace it with a h81 1150 motherboard. You should be looking to spend at least 150 on the gpu.

I changed the processor to an i3-3250 from the i3-4130 so it fits the motherboard. What would be better?

Intel Core i3-3250 Box, LGA1155
vs
Intel Core i3-4130 Box, LGA1150

EmmetF

How does this look? I'll need a cheap DVD drive too.

Item|Price
Crucial M500 120GB SATA 6GB/s 6,4CM (2,5") 7mm|€56.99
BitFenix Merc Beta|€33.99
LogiLink USB 2.0 all-in-one Card Reader, für 3,5" Einbauchschacht|€3.99
8GB-Kit Crucial Ballistix Sport Series DDR3-1600, CL9|€60.67
ASRock B85 Pro4, Sockel 1150, ATX|€61.96
Intel Core i3-4360 in-a-Box|€136.23
Seasonic S12II-620, 620 Watt, 80PLUS Bronze|€63.34
AMD FirePro V4900 1GB GDDR5 SDRAM PCI Express 2.1 x16|€153.76
Shipping|€18.99
Windows 8.1 Pro|€20.00 Software Swap
Total|€609.92

frozenfrozen

EmmetF wrote: »

How does this look? I'll need a cheap DVD drive too.

Item|Price
Crucial M500 120GB SATA 6GB/s 6,4CM (2,5") 7mm|€56.99
BitFenix Merc Beta|€33.99
LogiLink USB 2.0 all-in-one Card Reader, für 3,5" Einbauchschacht|€3.99
8GB-Kit Crucial Ballistix Sport Series DDR3-1600, CL9|€60.67
ASRock B85 Pro4, Sockel 1150, ATX|€61.96
Intel Core i3-4360 in-a-Box|€136.23
Seasonic S12II-620, 620 Watt, 80PLUS Bronze|€63.34
AMD FirePro V4900 1GB GDDR5 SDRAM PCI Express 2.1 x16|€153.76
Shipping|€18.99
Windows 8.1 Pro|€20.00 Software Swap
Total|€609.92

$10 dollars for windows 8.1. Buy a windows 8 license, and the upgrade to 8.1 is free. Little trick the guys do on reddit SS to get more money out of you.. .

Item|Price
WD Blue 1TB 6Gb's|€46.37
Corsair CX Series Modular CX500M, 500W|€53.19
8GB-Kit Crucial Ballistix Sport XT Series DDR3-1600, CL9|€59.15
ASRock H81M-HDS, Sockel 1150, mATX|€42.19
FRACTAL DESIGN Gehäuse Core 1000 USB 3.0 black|€34.43
MSI R9 270 GAMING 2G, AMD Radeon R9 270, 2GB DDR5|€153.43
Intel Core i5-4670K Box, LGA1150|€190.98
Shipping|€18.99
Total|€598.73
much more power in this, i5 processor, you can change the 1tb drive for an ssd, I've just copy pasted it from a previous spec. You could change the gpu to whatever is more suited to your autocad.
That card reader is 2.0, so max transfer speed of 20mB/s or so. I'd go for 3.0 if you could spare the cash, or else get external usb 3 ones, and use the usb 3.0 ports on the case.

EmmetF

Ok I feel like I'm nearly there now. Could someone take a look and answer the few questions I have?

Item|Price
Crucial M500 120GB SATA 6GB/s 6,4CM (2,5") 7mm|€56.99
Corsair Carbide Series 200R, ATX, ohne Netzteil|€52.49
Corsair CX Series Modular CX500M, 500W|€53.14
8GB-Kit Crucial Ballistix Sport XT Series DDR3-1600, CL9|€59.15
ASRock H81M-HDS, Sockel 1150, mATX|€38.91
Intel Core i5-4670K Box, LGA1150|€190.98
Akasa AK-ICR-13 USB 3.0 Internal 6-Port Card Reader 3,5|€15.47
ASUS DRW-24F1ST (Bulk) Silent|€15.90
AMD FirePro V4900 1GB GDDR5 SDRAM PCI Express 2.1 x16|€153.76
Shipping|€18.99
Total|€655.78

1) Is everything compatible and will it all fit in the case?

2) Are there any upgrades I could make without upping the budget? (ie. a better PSU)

3) Am I limiting myself anywhere for future upgrades?

4) Is there room for another hard drive if I wanted to buy one at a later stage?

5) Could someone recommend a decent cheap mouse + keyboard combo?

Addled

It looks fine but get the 4670 non-k 4670 instead.
It's the same but without an unlocked multiplier for overclocking and a little cheaper as you can't overclock on that board anyway

DERPY DERPFACE

That gfx card isn't great. Its over 2 years old. You should be aiming for 2gb of gddr5 ram eg r9 270.