DOE test - backdated?

makeorbrake

DOE was due on my van in January. Are they now backdating DOE's - just like NCT?

Bpmull

Yep they back date them alright with the new cvrt test.

makeorbrake

Bpmull wrote: »

Yep they back date them alright with the new cvrt test.

Grrr...:-(

New? What's different about it from last time round?

Bpmull

Cvrt is a lot stricter than the doe.
More thorough harder to pass,
Backdated,
You get a disc to display in window like nct,
More expensive 111.16 euro I think,
You get a printout of the vans results like nct.
Basically worse than an nct in everyway more frequent, as difficult harder to pass, more expensive.

MidlandsM

New price.

Rsa levy

Tighter rigerous checking...more than before.

More internal audits

New windscreen disc

Backdating....

All round pith

Eric Cartman

makeorbrake wrote: »

Grrr...:-(

New? What's different about it from last time round?

They post out your cert now , thats about it, also they date it from the expiry of your old doe cert

MidlandsM

Basically op, to get a full years test on your van now, you need to wait till next jan!

corktina

so the test is stricter and there's no point in holding out to the last minute to get the test.

Now, that's bad....exactly why?

Shane Fitz

MidlandsM wrote: »

Basically op, to get a full years test on your van now, you need to wait till next jan!

.... and you can't tax it without an in date Certificate of Road Worthiness. ( passed test)

makeorbrake

MidlandsM wrote: »

Basically op, to get a full years test on your van now, you need to wait till next jan!

Ah ok. So if I wait until next January, they won't want 2x payments?


Otherwise, this has been very badly communicated. Cops obviously don't know a hell of a lot about it - as have been through a good few tax/insurance checkpoints this year - and nothing said (for a lack of a doe disk)
First I heard of it! I chose to use van as a private vehicle a couple of years ago. This is now a pain in the ass - as the cost is 2x that of an nct. Furthermore, tests every year rather than every 2 years for nct (so long as under 10 years old).


Bloody money making racket! :-(

Shane Fitz wrote: »

.... and you can't tax it without an in date Certificate of Road Worthiness. ( passed test)

Yeah, came up against that last year.

corktina wrote:

so the test is stricter and there's no point in holding out to the last minute to get the test.

Now, that's bad....exactly why?

See above - it's a damned money making racket! Why is the DOE 2x the price of an nct and why is doe required yearly?

MidlandsM

I had a van go in recently.....it was over tested!

It failed on rear brake shoes ....


Took it back to the workshop, off with the drums...and low and behold, loads of meat on the shoes.

All was pictured, measured, and documented. Went back to the test centre. They dodnt want to know my findings. Accused me of wanting an easy pass.

Rang the rsa....kicked some butt.

Test centre winds their neck back in, re tests van, and passes it, and apologised saying they got it wrong.....

Effing scammers, and they just happen to own a motor factors next door dont you know....failing vans needlessly daily...could be a nice wee scam ehhhh....

Anyways.... when taken to task, the test centre owner sh1t his pants and gave me a ball of €20's for my trouble...sh1tting himself of the bad publicity....


Not only is the test a pain in the hole, watch where you get it tested.

supervento

MidlandsM wrote: »

Basically op, to get a full years test on your van now, you need to wait till next jan!

if its out a year or over, you will only get 6 months test, so in this case if you waited untill Jan 2015 to test it, you would only get until the middle of the year.

MidlandsM

supervento wrote: »

if its out a year or over, you will only get 6 months test, so in this case if you waited untill Jan 2015 to test it, you would only get until the middle of the year.

I stand corrected so, christ, they have it all water tight...shower

supervento

MidlandsM wrote: »

I stand corrected so, christ, they have it all water tight...shower

ya its fairly water tight alright, occasionally you get people who only get a couple of weeks test due to it being out. in that instance you have to ring the RSA in mayo to appeal it, then you will get 3 to 6 months test.

MidlandsM

supervento wrote: »

ya its fairly water tight alright, occasionally you get people who only get a couple of weeks test due to it being out. in that instance you have to ring the RSA in mayo to appeal it, then you will get 3 to 6 months test.

I know, its a total pisstake. Over €160 for my truck last week.

supervento

MidlandsM wrote: »

I know, its a total pisstake. Over €160 for my truck last week.

someone has to pay Gay Byrne's wages eh......

MidlandsM

supervento wrote: »

someone has to pay Gay Byrne's wages eh......

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrr......

makeorbrake

supervento wrote: »

if its out a year or over, you will only get 6 months test, so in this case if you waited untill Jan 2015 to test it, you would only get until the middle of the year.

Feck! :-(

Better get it done then. Is it the same scenario i.e. do I ring my local DOE testing centre - or is it centralised now?

supervento

makeorbrake wrote: »

Feck! :-(

Better get it done then. Is it the same scenario i.e. do I ring my local DOE testing centre - or is it centralised now?

Ya you can book it online too now, but i reckon ur better off just ringing and making an appointment. you need to bring i.d i.e drivers license

makeorbrake

OSI wrote: »

You'd swear vans do a lot more stressful miles than a car with all this yearly stringent testing malarky. Not like they could be carrying a few hundred kilos of cargo in an utter rotbox or anything.

Really? Fascinating. I guess that also explains why it costs 2 times that of an nct test also, does it?

Bpmull

OSI wrote: »

You'd swear vans do a lot more stressful miles than a car with all this yearly stringent testing malarky. Not like they could be carrying a few hundred kilos of cargo in an utter rotbox or anything.

It's just one extreme to another though. The Doe was a joke The last time I brought in a van on the old system it was in being tested for literally 10 minutes they couldn't have checked much in that time. Last time I was in on the new system 45-50 minutes actually on the lane being tested. Everyone that was there when I was there failed except me. The likes of car derived vans and smaller vans can't carry that much really whatever about trucks and bigger vans which can be carrying several tons at a time.

corktina

makeorbrake wrote: »

See above - it's a damned money making racket! Why is the DOE 2x the price of an nct and why is doe required yearly?

obviously because it costs more because the throughput is smaller and the machinery heavier duty. Required yearly because Commercials tend to do much higher mileages . I sincerely doubt that anyone makes much money at it and if it saves just one life it isn't a racket.

makeorbrake

corktina wrote: »

obviously because it costs more because the throughput is smaller and the machinery heavier duty. Required yearly because Commercials tend to do much higher mileages

What's frustrating is that I tax it privately - and I'd nct the bloody thing except they simply wouldn't let me. It's a car derived van that's used for private purposes - and it suits my purposes. Don't need back seat and although I utilise the facility sparsely, it's handy to have the extra space in the back the odd time.

corktina wrote: »

I sincerely doubt that anyone makes much money at it and if it saves just one life it isn't a racket.

Sure, I get it. However, you will understand the frustration when others driving what is essentially the same thing (and as outlined, used in every sense of the word "privately") is being nct'ed for half the price 100% less frequently.

It goes without saying, it will be the last car derived van I'll own (although as I have this one right here right now - and it makes no sense to sell it on - I'll have to put up with it).

demanufactured

It's more stricter now to take the piles of ****e off the road.... (there's a fair few of them)

makeorbrake

demanufactured wrote: »

It's more stricter now to take the piles of ****e off the road.... (there's a fair few of them)

Yeah...and despite private usage and private taxing, I'm getting caught up in that (when I otherwise shouldn't).

Eric Cartman

I hate the disk on the window , aside from that its fine though . Theres some balls of muck show up at doe centres , while having my d-max tested in may (passed first time ) there were 2 lads giving out about their vans failing, one had completely bald tyres and the arches rusted through , the other was putting out enough black smoke that you couldnt reverse in it . And these were 07-08 vehicles , not 20 year old vans.

The doe serves its purpose although the cost is annoying

Fred Swanson

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MidlandsM

Fred Swanson wrote: »

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Yeah. The retest price is a disgrace.

supervento

corktina wrote: »

obviously because it costs more because the throughput is smaller and the machinery heavier duty. Required yearly because Commercials tend to do much higher mileages . I sincerely doubt that anyone makes much money at it and if it saves just one life it isn't a racket.

it is gas tho, that commercials vehicles after one year from new need to be CVRT tested, i could only imagine that the failure rate for commercial vehicles aged 1 to 3 years old must be quiet low.

It seems in the uk that commercial vehicles need to be over 3 years old before they need to be mot tested, it seems a bit fairer. i suppose they do seem to have better roads in general over there.