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Croke Park Agreement pay cuts

  • 01-06-2014 4:57pm
    #1
    OneOfThem Stumbled
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    Not 100% sure where to put this.

    Does the Croke Park Agreement have any bearing on promotions within the Civil Service? If you are promoted to a senior position, are you considered to be a "new entrant"?


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  • #2
    barneystinson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,685 ✭✭✭barneystinson


    OneOfThem Stumbled wrote: »
    Not 100% sure where to put this.

    Does the Croke Park Agreement have any bearing on promotions within the Civil Service? If you are promoted to a senior position, are you considered to be a "new entrant"?

    No. Sure that'd make no sense, you wouldn't be a new entrant if you're being promoted.


  • #3
    OneOfThem Stumbled
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    barneystinson wrote: »
    No. Sure that'd make no sense, you wouldn't be a new entrant if you're being promoted.

    Even if the position is different? Let's say lecturer to senior lecturer ... or P/T substitute teacher, to full time member of staff? The Croke Park agreement says that "moving to an equivalent" area should not be considered a new entrant, but what is an equivalent area?


  • #4
    barneystinson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,685 ✭✭✭barneystinson


    OneOfThem Stumbled wrote: »
    Even if the position is different? Let's say lecturer to senior lecturer ... or P/T substitute teacher, to full time member of staff? The Croke Park agreement says that "moving to an equivalent" area should not be considered a new entrant, but what is an equivalent area?

    Because you're not a new entrant to the PS! Think of it this way, if someone gets promoted are there the same number of PS workers - answer is yes - whereas a new entrant increases the number of PS workers.

    I know people who have moved from one grade in one Govt dept, and been appointed via open competition into a more senior grade in another dept... they do not go onto the new entrant pay scale, but those hired from the same panel from the private sector do.


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