Wanted Welding gas bottles

ormondprop

Hi lads just wondering do any of ye have gas bottles you want to get rid of, i'm looking for a large boc bottle for argoshield light size w and a small bottle for argon size x if anyone has one they'd like to give away or sell

freedominacup

ormondprop wrote: »

Hi lads just wondering do any of ye have gas bottles you want to get rid of, i'm looking for a large boc bottle for argoshield light size w and a small bottle for argon size x if anyone has one they'd like to give away or sell

AFAIK you don't own them. They belong to BOC.

ormondprop

Ya i know that you pay rent on them but sometimes they go awol which is very handy if you can get them filled as it saves on rental

gctest50

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http://www.wholesaleweldingsupplies.ie/index.php?route=product/category&path=406_517_606

No direct debit, no rent,no contract , bit more €€€€ maybe


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ormondprop

Looked into all them but very pricey, my boss said i can get bottles filled through work if i can get the bottles, i bought a 2nd hand murex mig at the weekend that came with a y size bottle so i have that but we don't have them size bottles at work so don't know if i can get it filled so i'd like a larger bottle and i want to set up my inverter to do tig aswell so want a small bottle for that too,

blue5000

ormondprop wrote: »

Looked into all them but very pricey, my boss said i can get bottles filled through work if i can get the bottles, i bought a 2nd hand murex mig at the weekend that came with a y size bottle so i have that but we don't have them size bottles at work so don't know if i can get it filled so i'd like a larger bottle and i want to set up my inverter to do tig aswell so want a small bottle for that too,

Do you remember the explosion at vistacon a few yrs back?

ormondprop

No why?

gctest50

blue5000 wrote: »

Do you remember the explosion at vistacon a few yrs back?

That was propane cylinders afaik ???

High pressure cylinders have been around for a 100 years and legends of their destructive potential have been around for 99



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJ6tKJ6GsAo



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onyerbikepat

blue5000 wrote: »

Do you remember the explosion at vistacon a few yrs back?

RIP. He was decanting at the time, from what I remember.
http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/limerick-blast-left-50ft-hole-in-wall-of-plant-138978.html

Gas bottles are lethal. Take care!

ormondprop

What has a propane explosion got to do with me getting a bottle filled with a non flammable gas by boc?

onyerbikepat

Flammable or non-flammable, they are all lethal. It's the 200 Bar pressure that's the dangerous bit. I work occasionly with Gas Bottles, Methane, Oxygen, Hydrogen even Nitrogen is deadly.

ormondprop

I work daily with them too as i am a welder so i'm well used to using oxygen and acetelyne and argon, argoshield light and propane i know the dangers but i just want an empty bottle if i can get another so i can get it filled through work on our work account as it cost about €400 for your first fill if i set up my own account so i don't see why this is been turned into a thread about explosions

moy83

ormondprop wrote: »

I work daily with them too as i am a welder so i'm well used to using oxygen and acetelyne and argon, argoshield light and propane i know the dangers but i just want an empty bottle if i can get another so i can get it filled through work on our work account as it cost about €400 for your first fill if i set up my own account so i don't see why this is been turned into a thread about explosions

How much is a refill of a the big bottle of gas do you know ?

ormondprop

About €60-70 + vat i think for a fill of argoshield light in the big z bottle, €120 a year rental and a €200 deposit which is refundable when you give the bottle back or after two years of having an account a fill for argon is about 90+vat i think for a small x size bottle and rent is about 90 a year

moy83

Thanks , the father asked me to get him a bottle last week , it the tall one out of the two that he uses for brazing and cutting . When I saw €400 I was like :eek:

onyerbikepat

OP, if you own the bottle will BOC fill it for you? The reason I ask is those bottles have to be periodically inspected, don't they?
Do they have a serial number?

Rovi

Only BOC actually 'own' genuine BOC bottles, they are rented to individuals or companies.
They will only exchange/refill these bottles via a valid customer account.
The will not accept for exchange or refill any other bottle.

We all know that there are plenty of BOC bottles floating around out there in the hands of people who aren't BOC customers, but the bottles remain the property of BOC and they can and do seek to retrieve them.
Valid BOC account holders who facilitate others in getting bottles refilled run the risk of having their account cancelled or even pursued through the courts.

Again, we all know that this stuff is going on, but it's not without risk for the people concerned.

Anyhow another legit supply chain that might suit would be Hobbyweld, who have agents in a good few places in Ireland:
http://www.hobbyweld.co.uk/default.php?page=55

Figerty

ormondprop wrote: »

I work daily with them too as i am a welder so i'm well used to using oxygen and acetelyne and argon, argoshield light and propane i know the dangers but i just want an empty bottle if i can get another so i can get it filled through work on our work account as it cost about €400 for your first fill if i set up my own account so i don't see why this is been turned into a thread about explosions

Because others aren't. The poor man this happened to also knew better and he still made an awful mistake.

ormondprop

Ya but from what i read about that he was emptying gas from one cylinder into another which is a dangerous practice and has nothing to do with what i want to do so i don't see the relevence here

Jonblack

You could use a co2 bottle from a pub and fill that from a large bottle at work. Depends on how much welding your doing. Used this method when doing tig welding on site easy loading van and moving about on site.

micraX

Them welding gas cylinders make great drill rollers.