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Bull on his own

  • 31-05-2014 9:10am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22


    Hi , I was wondering why do farmers keep the stock bull on his own after he has serviced all the cows , I bought a purebred aa bull last year , he had all my cows in calf after 6 weeks and I left him with the cows in case of any repeats, they are all due to calf soon and he's still with them happy out and very quite, it's hassle for me to seperate him from the cows , is it ok to leave him with them during calving ?? Thanks


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,556 ✭✭✭simx


    dminor123 wrote: »
    Hi , I was wondering why do farmers keep the stock bull on his own after he has serviced all the cows , I bought a purebred aa bull last year , he had all my cows in calf after 6 weeks and I left him with the cows in case of any repeats, they are all due to calf soon and he's still with them happy out and very quite, it's hassle for me to seperate him from the cows , is it ok to leave him with them during calving ?? Thanks

    I can't see why not, often calved a cow in field with bull present


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,326 ✭✭✭Farmer Pudsey


    During calving can be dangerous. I am basing my expeirence from rams, I have seen them kill newly born lambs. I recounted the same story about a stallion. I think it is the smell of blood that sets them off.

    The reason most farmers remove the bull during the summer is to limit the calving season. Any cows not in calf by mid July these farmers cull and fatten. They find no point in having calves born in May


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 287 ✭✭golodge


    I keep bull with cows while they're calving and no accidents yet. Even if cow calves in the herd, bull don't show any aggresion. When once cow died and there was blood around her, bull was quite nervious, but when cows calves he's very calm.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,079 ✭✭✭grazeaway


    Same here, leave the bull with the cows all year. Keeps him grand and happy. Once he is part of the herd he is ok. Notice alright that if need to separate hi he can become a bit agitated. Neighbour once told me that you should never go into a field with a bull on its own. If you need to separate him form the herd best to leave him with some bullocks or even a goat.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,719 ✭✭✭Bellview


    I leave him with the cows all year also. Stops him roaring looking for company.. He is an aa also


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,168 ✭✭✭milkprofit


    golodge wrote: »
    I keep bull with cows while they're calving and no accidents yet. Even if cow calves in the herd, bull don't show any aggresion. When once cow died and there was blood around her, bull was quite nervious, but when cows calves he's very calm.

    Famous last words
    Why put u self at the risk herding even if u say he is quite
    Most bulls that kill people were quiet the day before


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 287 ✭✭golodge


    milkprofit wrote: »
    Famous last words
    Why put u self at the risk herding even if u say he is quite
    Most bulls that kill people were quiet the day before

    Maybe that's true. However I walk to the herd each day, sometimes more than once a day and even there are a cow in heat our bull don't pay any attention to me. He's a pure Limousine, so when had to choose a bull, the character was in the first place. Now he's 28 months old, works for the second season and he's with cows since last June. Of course, always watch what the bull is doing, but he's very friendly and often comes for a scratch.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,719 ✭✭✭Bellview


    golodge wrote: »
    I keep bull with cows while they're calving and no accidents yet. Even if cow calves in the herd, bull don't show any aggresion. When once cow died and there was blood around her, bull was quite nervious, but when cows calves he's very calm.

    Often the mist dangerous animal in the field after a view calving s the cow herself


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,168 ✭✭✭milkprofit


    golodge wrote: »
    Maybe that's true. However I walk to the herd each day, sometimes more than once a day and even there are a cow in heat our bull don't pay any attention to me. He's a pure Limousine, so when had to choose a bull, the character was in the first place. Now he's 28 months old, works for the second season and he's with cows since last June. Of course, always watch what the bull is doing, but he's very friendly and often comes for a scratch.
    How fast can u run
    Ask the guys who have been attacked by bulls if u won't listen to me


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,527 ✭✭✭on the river


    milkprofit wrote: »
    How fast can u run
    Ask the guys who have been attacked by bulls if u won't listen to me

    Totally agree. Bulls should be kept at a distance. A playful scratch could turn into a dangerous puck.

    A neighbour of mine was seriously hurt by a bull that he thought was very quiet.

    Better be safe than sorry. A bull chain is a effective tool if challenged by a bull.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 287 ✭✭golodge


    I know what you mean, but while some our cows are calving others already are inheat, so need to keep the bull with them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,527 ✭✭✭on the river


    golodge wrote: »
    I know what you mean, but while some our cows are calving others already are inheat, so need to keep the bull with them.

    Can you separate them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 287 ✭✭golodge


    Can you separate them

    Our herd isn't very big and would need to find more land for new pastures. Don't think that it's possible for now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,552 ✭✭✭J.O. Farmer


    Totally agree. Bulls should be kept at a distance. A playful scratch could turn into a dangerous puck.

    A neighbour of mine was seriously hurt by a bull that he thought was very quiet.

    Better be safe than sorry. A bull chain is a effective tool if challenged by a bull.

    I personally wouldn't like the bull having a "playful" scratch. A full grown bull would be 10 times my size maybe more. He wouldn't have much bother flattening me if he took the notion for whatever reason. Maybe he's having a bad day or he wants to be boss or is just a bad backstard.
    A "pet" bull is the most dangerous type you can have.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 531 ✭✭✭munkus


    A bull chain is a effective tool if challenged by a bull.

    I think chains are a waste of time. How exactly is it going to help you when he's coming at you and it's dragging between his legs or he has it thrown out the side?

    There's a great chance he's going to get it caught in a bush or a fence and you have to untangle it. Many have died doing this.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,984 ✭✭✭Miname


    munkus wrote: »
    I think chains are a waste of time. How exactly is it going to help you when he's coming at you and it's dragging between his legs or he has it thrown out the side?

    There's a great chance he's going to get it caught in a bush or a fence and you have to untangle it. Many have died doing this.

    A bull drops his head, gets tunnel vision and charges every step that he takes that he stands on that chain or throw his head sideways, gives you the opportunity to get out of there or can cause the bull to go off course. imagine if it was yourself in the same situation with a chain hanging from your nose and you step on it during a fight. if it nothing it might distract you.


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