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Payday Loans APR% makes from a good read & shocking

  • 30-05-2014 9:17pm
    #1
    Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    if you bothered 100 pounds this is much you pay back its absolutely nuts how is this stuff legal 59% APR


    Borrow £100 and make no repayments

    After 1 year Owe £4,200
    After 2 years Owe £180,000
    After 3 years Owe £7,500,000 (£7 million)
    After 4 years Owe £315,000,000 (£315 million)
    After 5 years Owe £13,000,000,000 (£13 billion)
    After 6 years Owe £557,000,000,000 (£557 billion)
    After 7 years Owe £23,500,000,000,000 (£23.5 trillion)


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,916 ✭✭✭shopaholic01


    if you bothered 100 pounds this is much you pay back its absolutely nuts how is this stuff legal
    It's never a good idea to bother money, it's awfully tetchy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,043 ✭✭✭Wabbit Ears


    They're not designed as long term loans and the Apr is clearly advertised.


  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Roger Some Grassland


    High risk, high return, increasing over longer periods of time as risk of non repayment increases
    They're meant to be extremely short term but still


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    bluewolf wrote: »
    High risk, high return, increasing over longer periods of time as risk of non repayment increases
    They're meant to be extremely short term but still

    aren't they knowing for trapping & preying on vulnerable & poor people


  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Roger Some Grassland


    I don't really see how they're "trapping and preying" since they make it very easy to see what you would need to pay back beyond simply declaring the apr. But I do imagine you could easily get caught into a dangerous cycle using them, yes.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,070 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    After 7 years Owe £23,500,000,000,000 (£23.5 trillion)

    Can I pay it of by €50 per week?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    The whole point is not to borrow money for longer than a few weeks/till the end of the month. They are called payday loans for that exact reason.


    Is that what happened to America? First week in office, Obama borrows a few hundred quid to do him till he got his first pay cheque, then boom, trillions owed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,113 ✭✭✭shruikan2553


    aren't they knowing for trapping & preying on vulnerable & poor people

    They tend to be frequented by the poor and vulnerable but I wouldnt say they trap and prey on them. They just show their ads during Jeremy Kyle and you are free to get one or not.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,954 ✭✭✭Tail Docker


    Amoral scumbaggery IMO, but then I'm an eejit. I could do this - I have enough dosh, I know enough people, but I'd rather eat grass than make a living this way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭corkgsxr


    And is 59% not one of the lower ones.

    As far as I remember I saw ones over 200%


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,105 ✭✭✭beano345


    Hundreds of them in Toronto offering payday loans usually every $100 you borrow you owe $120 back with heavy penalties for being late with a payment.I got caught up with them over there, you kind of end up in a vicious circle with them in that when you pay back the loan you need to take out another one just to live,most of them are owned by big banks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,008 ✭✭✭not yet


    It's never a good idea to bother money, it's awfully tetchy.

    I've heard nasty stories of it turning on people for no reason, better left alone and not bothered.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Amoral scumbaggery IMO, but then I'm an eejit. I could do this - I have enough dosh, I know enough people, but I'd rather eat grass than make a living this way.

    Why not lend your money to the same people at really low interest rates?

    Sure what could go wrong, they are only high risk borrowers because people are picking on them.........


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,076 ✭✭✭✭bnt


    The figures in the OP are not the result of a 59% APR (annual percentage rate) - they are more like Wonga's 4200% effective APR that hit the headlines a couple of years ago.

    If you borrow €100 at 59% APR, after a year you pay back €159. A 4200% APR corresponds to about 36.6% per month. :eek:

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    ―Oscar Wilde predicting Social Media, in The Picture of Dorian Gray



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,954 ✭✭✭Tail Docker


    Why not lend your money to the same people at really low interest rates?

    Sure what could go wrong, they are only high risk borrowers because people are picking on them.........

    As a former collector of out-standing monies, I can tell you that even if you lend it at 0%, you still need to make some peoples lives a misery to collect it back. There's nicer ways to make a living.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,429 ✭✭✭Cedrus


    aren't they knowing for trapping & preying on vulnerable & poor people
    bluewolf wrote: »
    I don't really see how they're "trapping and preying" since they make it very easy to see what you would need to pay back beyond simply declaring the apr. But I do imagine you could easily get caught into a dangerous cycle using them, yes.

    I think the key words here are "vulnerable & poor people" rather than "trapping & preying", although the effect is the same.


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