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parental leave for the husband.

  • 26-05-2014 11:51am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,490 ✭✭✭


    Hi all
    As the title suggests im due last baby in about 3 months
    Have 2 small ones already.
    Ive had v difficult births in past and v v difficult recoveries. On my last not being able to walk until well after 4 weeks only shuffling to toilet and back
    Struck down with infections too.

    Ok so this time I want the husband with me at home for 3 weeks.
    He s complaining how will we get by etc .
    Ive told him il give him the equivalent of his wages per week to cover all his direct debits etc.

    So the issue is
    He works for a family member
    All legitimate .
    When that family member had their own children they took considerable time off too.

    My husband is acting like things wont get done if he not there - so untrue
    He saying we wont get by we will as im savingfor this.
    Hes saying tthat the fsmily member wont give him parental leave.

    Isnt it his right to take parental leave.
    But at the discretion of his employer when to grant it. .

    However I wont b able to hardly sit up myself let alone look after a newborn or two other children.

    Surely he cant be refused parental leave at a time when I have minimal help.
    Will be exhausted and if I don't get off to a good start things will go dowm hill rapid .

    Any ideas of what to tell d husband ??


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  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    He has no automatic right to parental leave, it's entirely at his employers discretion


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,490 ✭✭✭monflat


    Stheno wrote: »
    He has no automatic right to parental leave, it's entirely at his employers discretion

    Ok thanks for some reason I thought though fathers were entitled to parental leave.

    Obviously at his employers discretion of course

    He will have to use any remaining holidays so


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,236 ✭✭✭lau1247


    yeah fathers have no automatic rights unless the mother pass away during birth process IIRC

    Have a check of Citizen Information's website.

    West Dublin, ☀️ 7.83kWp ⚡5.66 kWp South West, ⚡2.18 kWp North East



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,490 ✭✭✭monflat


    lau1247 wrote: »
    yeah fathers have no automatic rights unless the mother pass away during birth process IIRC

    Have a check of Citizen Information's website.



    Ok il try that' but.i would admit it be fairly lousy if he couldn't get hols especially when family are involved.
    Its sometimes more difficult workin for family.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,263 ✭✭✭✭Eoin


    To clarify, there is a difference between paternity leave, which doesn't exist by law (apart from maternity leave being transferred in the event of the mother's death), and parental leave which does exist - and to which a father is entitled. However, there is no automatic entitlement to when it can be taken.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,490 ✭✭✭monflat


    Eoin wrote: »
    To clarify, there is a difference between paternity leave, which doesn't exist by law (apart from maternity leave being transferred in the event of the mother's death), and parental leave which does exist - and to which a father is entitled. However, there is no automatic entitlement to when it can be taken.


    Thanks for link il look into that


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,289 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    OP ... kinda delicate this .. but it sounds like he has every excuse in the book.

    Is it possible that he just doesn't WANT to be there for you ? Are there any other alternatives that you could consider?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,490 ✭✭✭monflat


    OP ... kinda delicate this .. but it sounds like he has every excuse in the book.

    Is it possible that he just doesn't WANT to be there for you ? Are there any other alternatives that you could consider?

    No to be honest he does but its like sometimes hes running the business n the brother steps back . D husband is extremely punctual hardworking etc etc there's sone days d brother does not turn up.
    He never gets a bank holiday sat off d brother takes them all .

    I work too n as a family we only spend one day a fortnight together.

    It pisses me off that d husband works harder for
    the business than d actual owner does.

    So thats why I was puttin.my foot down n makin him tske d time as ftom.then on im on my own .
    My family aint too near to help out well I have no one other than my mother to give a dig. !


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40 nukie1978


    Stheno wrote: »
    He has no automatic right to parental leave, it's entirely at his employers discretion

    Bull****.

    He has an entitlement to 18 weeks per child, to be taken in blocks of not less than 6 weeks, or shorter periods where his employer so agrees. I can't recall the notice period, but I think it's 6 weeks, and it must be in writing. The employer may not refuse a request for parental leave, but only defer it once, for a stated (and valid) reason.

    The 18 weeks is unpaid, per child, and must be taken for the child in question before the child reaches 11 years of age.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40 nukie1978


    I just dug out my employment law notes.

    Parental Leave Acts 1998-2006. Maximum of 18 weeks may be taken in a 12 month period.

    -- Employee must give the employer 6 weeks notice in writing stating (1) commencement date, (2) duration, (3) manner of leave, & (4) the employee’s signature

    -- Confirmation document 4 weeks prior signed by the employer and employee

    -- Can be postponed because of undue hardship (small and medium enterprises only) but must agree a date within 6 months

    -- Subject to one year's continuous service


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,490 ✭✭✭monflat


    nukie1978 wrote: »
    I just dug out my employment law notes.

    Parental Leave Acts 1998-2006. Maximum of 18 weeks may be taken in a 12 month period.

    -- Employee must give the employer 6 weeks notice in writing stating (1) commencement date, (2) duration, (3) manner of leave, & (4) the employee’s signature

    -- Confirmation document 4 weeks prior signed by the employer and employee

    -- Can be postponed because of undue hardship (small and medium enterprises only) but must agree a date within 6 months

    . Thanks for that.

    I work in public sector and depending on the managers discretion all the fathers to be etc I my place of work get great time off.

    This In my eyes is my only chance to get off to a good start .
    Other than that il struggle big time


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    nukie1978 wrote: »
    Bull****.

    He has an entitlement to 18 weeks per child, to be taken in blocks of not less than 6 weeks, or shorter periods where his employer so agrees. I can't recall the notice period, but I think it's 6 weeks, and it must be in writing. The employer may not refuse a request for parental leave, but only defer it once, for a stated (and valid) reason.

    The 18 weeks is unpaid, per child, and must be taken for the child in question before the child reaches 11 years of age.

    I read it incorrectly as being paternity leave.


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