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History question

  • 25-05-2014 3:56pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54 ✭✭


    I'm studying Dictatorship and Democracy, and I was wondering would it be safe to learn all the dictatorships (Lenin, Stalin, Mussolini & Hitler) and leave out the democracies? I just find the democracies really boring and impossible to learn.
    I asked my history teacher and he gave me a vague answer about how we can't predict anything but hinted that we shouldn't bother with the democracies.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,723 ✭✭✭MightyMandarin


    You should be fine, as long as you know enough to adapt to any question they ask. They would never make a paper without anything from Italy,Germany or Russia, so learning those 3 would be fine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54 ✭✭PaleMoonlight


    You should be fine, as long as you know enough to adapt to any question they ask. They would never make a paper without anything from Italy,Germany or Russia, so learning those 3 would be fine.

    That's what I thought, thank you!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7 daaniellerc


    My History teacher told us if you knew the three case studies (Nuremberg Rallies, Britain Between the Wars and Jarrow March, Moscow Show Trials) and one dictator so either Hitler, Lenin and Mussolini you'd be fine!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,723 ✭✭✭MightyMandarin


    My History teacher told us if you knew the three case studies (Nuremberg Rallies, Britain Between the Wars and Jarrow March, Moscow Show Trials) and one dictator so either Hitler, Lenin and Mussolini you'd be fine!

    Honestly I would choose at least 2 dictators and only case studies relevant to them, (showtrials and rallies). This way you're covered for crossovers eg church-state, propaganda and terror etc. Whereas learning just one will leave you open to crossovers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54 ✭✭PaleMoonlight


    Well, what I studied was Lenin, Stalin, Hitler and Mussolini (domestic and foreign policies), a general essay on propaganda used by the dictators and an essay on the causes of WW2. Should I be safe?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,723 ✭✭✭MightyMandarin


    Well, what I studied was Lenin, Stalin, Hitler and Mussolini (domestic and foreign policies), a general essay on propaganda used by the dictators and an essay on the causes of WW2. Should I be safe?

    Almost certainly


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55 ✭✭wallace2


    All I know is Hitler Lenin and stalin and a random essay on factors which led to fascism, do you think il be safe? Was gonna learn Britain as well but don't have the time now! And i've always though Britain was incredibly boring just considered it as fall back


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 142 ✭✭MrAweesome


    Fascists regimes came up last year though


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55 ✭✭wallace2


    MrAweesome wrote: »
    Fascists regimes came up last year though

    Last year was the characteristics of fascism? Im prepared for factors which led to it beginning


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55 ✭✭wallace2


    Also am I the only one pretty much just banking on Coleraine for N.I?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 142 ✭✭MrAweesome


    wallace2 wrote: »
    Also am I the only one pretty much just banking on Coleraine for N.I?

    Im banking on Coleraine, civil rights and sunningdale and ango irish agreement


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7 daaniellerc


    wallace2 wrote: »
    Also am I the only one pretty much just banking on Coleraine for N.I?

    Nope pretty much everyone in my history class is too! I think you're taking a bit of a risk though!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55 ✭✭wallace2


    Nope pretty much everyone in my history class is too! I think you're taking a bit of a risk though!

    Good to know I'm not alone! I'm preparing just that and welfare state too


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 142 ✭✭MrAweesome


    wallace2 wrote: »
    Good to know I'm not alone! I'm preparing just that and welfare state too

    Coleraine has come up with apprentice boys before i think


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55 ✭✭wallace2


    MrAweesome wrote: »
    Coleraine has come up with apprentice boys before i think

    Hopefully it was and/or I havent gone near apprentice boys haha


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7 daaniellerc


    For Northern Ireland I'm learning:

    Welfare State
    Coleraine
    Sunningdale
    Civil Rights

    Do you think I'll be okay? I know the Apprentice Boys is a case study but it came up last year and also in 2012 and 2009 but as an "and/or" with Coleraine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 142 ✭✭MrAweesome


    For Northern Ireland I'm learning:

    Welfare State
    Coleraine
    Sunningdale
    Civil Rights

    Do you think I'll be okay? I know the Apprentice Boys is a case study but it came up last year and also in 2012 and 2009 but as an "and/or" with Coleraine.

    You'll probably be fine! Did the welfare state come up last year?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7 daaniellerc


    MrAweesome wrote: »
    You'll probably be fine! Did the welfare state come up last year?

    Yeah it did. Sort of counting on Coleraine or Sunningdale to be honest. Did you do America, if so what essays are you learning?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55 ✭✭wallace2


    Yeah it did. Sort of counting on Coleraine or Sunningdale to be honest. Did you do America, if so what essays are you learning?

    For America I'm prepared for Vietnam, civil rights movement and Economy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7 daaniellerc


    wallace2 wrote: »
    For America I'm prepared for Vietnam, civil rights movement and Economy

    What about the Moon Landing, as that's a case study?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 142 ✭✭MrAweesome


    I'm not doing America :( im doing division and realignment sadly haha


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,723 ✭✭✭MightyMandarin


    wallace2 wrote: »
    For America I'm prepared for Vietnam, civil rights movement and Economy

    You might want to look at others, all 3 of them came up last year in some sort. I'd say Domestic Factors, Cold War and Moon Landing are more likely.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55 ✭✭wallace2


    You might want to look at others, all 3 of them came up last year in some sort. I'd say Domestic Factors, Cold War and Moon Landing are more likely.

    Yeah I was thinking that but looking through papers there hasn't been a single year not one of them have come up in some way or another and things often come up consecutively in history. I'm presuming at least one of those topics will have to come up again. Although thanks for the warning il probably add foreign policy to it just to be safe haha


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,723 ✭✭✭MightyMandarin


    wallace2 wrote: »
    Yeah I was thinking that but looking through papers there hasn't been a single year not one of them have come up in some way or another and things often come up consecutively in history. I'm presuming at least one of those topics will have to come up again. Although thanks for the warning il probably add foreign policy to it just to be safe haha
    Do, some sort of foreign policy essay/domestic factors, appears every year. I just reckon Vietnam will be less likely seeing as Johnson has appeared 2 years in a row.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54 ✭✭PaleMoonlight


    Almost certainly

    Okay thanks, fingers crossed I am anyways.


    For Northern Ireland I'm gonna learn Apprentice Boys, Coleraine, Fall of Stormont, Sunnydale agreement and a general essay on the position of Catholics.

    Should I be safe enough or?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 574 ✭✭✭a0ifee


    Do, some sort of foreign policy essay/domestic factors, appears every year. I just reckon Vietnam will be less likely seeing as Johnson has appeared 2 years in a row.

    I wouldn't rule out Vietnam, the last two years were Truman Vs Johnson, they could easily ask a more direct Vietnam question


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1 fintanwhite


    I'm going for Coleraine, Welfare State, Sunningdale/Anglo/D. Street and then Brookeborough vs O'Neill, think that will be grand.

    If you's don't already know, leavingcerthistory.net has a couple of sweet sample essays, go on now if you haven't already


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 144 ✭✭jayo76


    As a History teacher my feelings would be...

    DBQ Gut feeling would be Treaty but in reality you as a student just can't take the chance here, you have to be prepared for all three.
    Treaty- Make up/ disadvantages of Irish delegation
    - Major issues to be discussed and how they were resolved
    - terms of Treaty
    - reaction to Treaty and road to civil War

    Euch con- Planning/ Major events/ SIGNIFICANCE

    Belfast- Role of North in WWII/ Impact of WWII on Belfast


    America- I would feel this year major possibilities of Domestic Factors/ Moon Landing/ Consensus and again I would be prepared also for general US foreign policy questions and Boycott/ Civil Rights. in reality in this section a lot of questions asked have to have a case study link

    Ireland 1870-1914 Very hard to Know, Cultural Nationalism has been asked a huge amount will it come up again??
    I have a sneaky feeling a question on Larkin/ Lockout/ Socialism might appear on it's own this year. Unionism always seems to be a good bet!

    Dictatorship and Democracy- As with cultural Nationalism Russia/ Stalin seems to be there nearly every year but there will come a time when it will not appear, if preparing Russia I would feel it essential to have some info on Lenin too and Russia during WWII.

    Anyway bottom line, good luck to everyone!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23 deedeebb


    division and realignment hints/predictions pleaseee? :(


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,723 ✭✭✭MightyMandarin


    a0ifee wrote: »
    I wouldn't rule out Vietnam, the last two years were Truman Vs Johnson, they could easily ask a more direct Vietnam question

    I wouldn't rule out anything. They can ask you ridiculous q's eg Japan's influence on the US economy, which appeared last year. I just think that vietnam is the least likely case study to appear.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,723 ✭✭✭MightyMandarin


    jayo76 wrote: »
    As a History teacher my feelings would be...

    DBQ Gut feeling would be Treaty but in reality you as a student just can't take the chance here, you have to be prepared for all three.
    Treaty- Make up/ disadvantages of Irish delegation
    - Major issues to be discussed and how they were resolved
    - terms of Treaty
    - reaction to Treaty and road to civil War

    Euch con- Planning/ Major events/ SIGNIFICANCE

    Belfast- Role of North in WWII/ Impact of WWII on Belfast


    America- I would feel this year major possibilities of Domestic Factors/ Moon Landing/ Consensus and again I would be prepared also for general US foreign policy questions and Boycott/ Civil Rights. in reality in this section a lot of questions asked have to have a case study link

    Ireland 1870-1914 Very hard to Know, Cultural Nationalism has been asked a huge amount will it come up again??
    I have a sneaky feeling a question on Larkin/ Lockout/ Socialism might appear on it's own this year. Unionism always seems to be a good bet!

    Dictatorship and Democracy- As with cultural Nationalism Russia/ Stalin seems to be there nearly every year but there will come a time when it will not appear, if preparing Russia I would feel it essential to have some info on Lenin too and Russia during WWII.

    Anyway bottom line, good luck to everyone!

    As a History teacher, what do you reckon should appear in the NI section?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 142 ✭✭MrAweesome


    deedeebb wrote: »
    division and realignment hints/predictions pleaseee? :(

    Im doing hungarian uprising, cold war, sovietisation of eastern europe , economic growth of western europe,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 144 ✭✭jayo76


    As a History teacher, what do you reckon should appear in the NI section?


    Have never taught the Northern Ireland module except for the years it was the document question in 2010 and 11 so wouldn't be in a position to even hazard a guess, in our school we generally do the Ireland 1870-1914 section instead.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54 ✭✭PaleMoonlight


    Any ideas on studying for European Retreat from Empire & the aftermath?
    I'm going to cover India, Congo, Race relations in France and Britian and the Suez Crisis.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20 Little_olivia


    Due to an incompetent teacher, we only glanced at Mussolini in the last few days off term. I'm struggling to learn him now. Can I just focus on Hitler, Stalin and economic problems in Britain? If not does anyone have any good notes/essays on Mussolini?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,723 ✭✭✭MightyMandarin


    Due to an incompetent teacher, we only glanced at Mussolini in the last few days off term. I'm struggling to learn him now. Can I just focus on Hitler, Stalin and economic problems in Britain? If not does anyone have any good notes/essays on Mussolini?

    If I were you, I'd only do Mussolini for joint-essays with other dictators. Essays like Church-State or Creation of Fascist State would suit ou best as you've already learned Hitler. You could still only do Germany, Britain and Russia, and would probably be fine.


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