32CSM member Gary Donnelly tops poll in Creggan and Bogside (Derry)

Tramps Like Us

Republican candidate tops the poll in the Creggan and Bogside

http://www.londonderrysentinel.co.uk/news/local-news/watch-32csm-member-gary-donnelly-tops-poll-in-creggan-and-bogside-1-6080362

The highest profile independent to be elected to the new Derry and Strabane Council is 32 County Sovereignty Movement member Gary Donnelly, who topped the poll in the Bogside and Creggan area of Londonderry and was elected on the first count this afternoon (May 24).

Mr Donnelly exceeded a quota of 1,143 in The Moor DEA and was deemed elected with his first count total of 1,154.

What do people make of this? He is obviously very popular in his local community.

Personally I'm happy to see him elected and engaged in electoral politics.

For those who don't know of him Gary Donnelly is a prominent anti GFA republican in Derry.

A member of the breakaway ‘Real IRA’ has told a public Easter commemoration in Derry that the group will continue its armed struggle against British rule in the north of Ireland.

As in previous years, the commemoration at which a masked Real IRA man spoke was organised by the 32 County Sovereignty Movement (32CSM).

The PSNI police maintained a strong presence in the streets outside Derry City Cemetery during Sunday’s commemoration and events were monitored from a PSNI helicopter. Despite this, following the traditional wreath-laying ceremony and a speech by well-known 32CSM member Gary Donnelly, a Real IRA member came from the crowd to deliver the organisation’s Easter message.

He was greeted by cheers and shouts of the traditional IRA salute, “Tiocfaidh ar Lá” [Our day will come].

Dressed all in black and wearing a black balaclava, the Real IRA man was surrounded both before and after his speech by a large group of people who used umbrellas to shield him from the overhead helicopter and other cameras.

He told the crowd of several hundred that republican unity would continue to be an aim of the Real IRA.

http://republican-news.org/current/news/2012/04/there_is_only_one_ira.html

Tramps Like Us

Very surprised that no one has any comment on this.

A number of other anti GFA republicans were elected too

Lastlight.

Many Unionists are anti GFA too, so fair play to him. The system is rubbish.

NIMAN

I think its sad to see more extremists elected in NI, that's hardly what the country needs.

Lastlight.

Sinn Fein have people elected in good numbers in the Irish Republic.

LuckyLloyd

Lastlight. wrote: »

Sinn Fein have people elected in good numbers in the Irish Republic.

And? They are proponents of the GFA and Peace Process and the paramilitary organisation to which they are related was confirmed as fully decommissioned and committed to the democratic process by the international monitoring commission in 2008.

32 CSM and The Real IRA are a completely different story sir.

Lastlight.

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

And? They are proponents of the GFA and Peace Process and the paramilitary organisation to which they are related was confirmed as fully decommissioned and committed to the democratic process by the international monitoring commission in 2008.

32 CSM and The Real IRA are a completely different story sir.

Many people would say Sinn Fein are extreme and have members who hold extreme views and out of the ordinary. This Derry Republican holds the views of many Sinn Fein members.

Ash.J.Williams

our main political parties once fought each other in a war....how mad is that

LuckyLloyd

Lastlight. wrote: »

Many people would say Sinn Fein are extreme and have members who hold extreme views and out of the ordinary. This Derry Republican holds the views of many Sinn Fein members.

Who cares what they think? The GFA, the independent bodies created off the back of the GFA, and the actions of Sinn Fein since the GFA all show a democratic party fully committed to the peace process.

That is not the case here. Your implication that they are related or similar is utterly false and you should retract same.

Lastlight.

No. They have members with extreme views (some would say) and hold deeply held extreme views.

feargale

The GFA has been endorsed by every significant community on this island. Those who wish to have it revoked should first obtain a mandate.

Karl Stein

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Your implication that they are related or similar is utterly false and you should retract same.

Trust me, don't bother yourself. The poster you're trying to engage in reasoned debate spends most of his time trying to draw moral parallels between the 'loyalist' lumpenproletariat, who slowly stew in the physical and mental ghettos of their own making, and progressive Republicans.

pO1Neil

Lastlight. wrote: »

No. They have members with extreme views (some would say) and hold deeply held extreme views.

Who are they? 32csm promote armed struggle SF are dedicated to democratic means.

LuckyLloyd

Lastlight. wrote: »

No. They have members with extreme views (some would say) and hold deeply held extreme views.

Again, the party and its membership are fully committed to the democratic process. The Provisional IRA is confirmed as fully decomissioned and also committed to the democratic process.

The fact of CSM and The Real IRA existing are only proof of that, i.e. other groups unrelated exist for those who still eschew the democratic process.

You have made a statement you are unable to reasonably back up. If you are unwilling to retract it, I will be forced to assume any other posts, etc you make here are irrelevant.

pO1Neil

Are the Real IRA even still in existence? I taught they merged together with small groups.

Tramps Like Us

pO1Neil wrote: »

Are the Real IRA even still in existence? I taught they merged together with small groups.

Who knows at this stage.

Gary Donnelly will be an excellent councilor for his community I'm sure. His election was on the back of a lot of community work

pO1Neil

Tramps Like Us wrote: »

Who knows at this stage.

Gary Donnelly will be an excellent councilor for his community I'm sure. His election was on the back of a lot of community work

Well his community work is a plus but why does he have to support paramilitaries?

pO1Neil

And I supported the Provos myself when the war was going on but the people of the North made it clear in a referendum they no longer want war & Republicans want SF & the Provos to pursue their aims by peaceful & democratic means., which their well on their way to doing according to last few elections. No need for any armed group to be active anymore.

Lastlight.

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Again, the party and its membership are fully committed to the democratic process. The Provisional IRA is confirmed as fully decomissioned and also committed to the democratic process.

The fact of CSM and The Real IRA existing are only proof of that, i.e. other groups unrelated exist for those who still eschew the democratic process.

You have made a statement you are unable to reasonably back up. If you are unwilling to retract it, I will be forced to assume any other posts, etc you make here are irrelevant.

Just because you believe in the democratic process doesn't mean you don't have extreme views which Sinn Fein does have from certain members. Believing that murder is fine is what reasonable people would say is extreme.

No other way of putting it.

I am pie

Tramps Like Us wrote: »

Republican candidate tops the poll in the Creggan and Bogside

http://www.londonderrysentinel.co.uk/news/local-news/watch-32csm-member-gary-donnelly-tops-poll-in-creggan-and-bogside-1-6080362



What do people make of this? He is obviously very popular in his local community.

Personally I'm happy to see him elected and engaged in electoral politics.

For those who don't know of him Gary Donnelly is a prominent anti GFA republican in Derry.


http://republican-news.org/current/news/2012/04/there_is_only_one_ira.html

He was elected in his council, with 1100 odd votes, he didn't "top the poll in the Bogside and Creggan"

Who are these other anti GFA candidates elected?

Any anti-GFA candidates represent the overwhelming minority in Ireland (North & South). It's pathetic and extremely undemocratic to reject peace and support violence (let's not throw lipstick on this pig, because that is the message here) where less than 1% of the electorate vote for it.

Just another egotistical relic, clinging on to an outdated strategy as SF grow their support. I can only hope that no one else dies at the hand of these cowards.

DEFTLEFTHAND

pO1Neil wrote: »

Are the Real IRA even still in existence? I taught they merged together with small groups.

The Hearld was reporting during the week that they've restructured in Dublin and kicked out most of Alan Ryan's associates. They also say that they're coming under pressure from drug gangs who've formed alliances with each other to protect themselves from extortion attempts.

Hard to know how accurate the Hearld is but I'd say RIRA are definitely at a low ebb in Dublin.

.jacksparrow.

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

The Hearld was reporting during the week that they've restructured in Dublin and kicked out most of Alan Ryan's associates. They also say that they're coming under pressure from drug gangs who've formed alliances with each other to protect themselves from extortion attempts.

Hard to know how accurate the Hearld is but I'd say RIRA are definitely at a low ebb in Dublin.

It's not hard to know how accurate the Herald is, it's quite easy to know they are full of ****e, absolute garbage paper.