How are you guys studying Macbeth?

Isitthough?

So I'm behind in english. I Havant really done anything on Macbeth since the mocks. I was going to print off answers etc.. from the internet and learn them but I heard people saying examiners hate this.Is that true? Now my writing isn't fancy or some art form, i don't use nice wording Etc...I don't learn the essays off by heart word for word but i do learn key points and Nice fancy vocab and sentences. I mean will the examiner really mind if I want to spice the answer up a bit?. So would you suggest doing it? learning off essays? also because I'm behind for english, if I only learn characters and not themes will I be covered? Right now I'm going through the play writing down quotes and learning them. Alot of them are coming back to me but it will still take a good few hours to get through it and that's just the quotes. Is just learning quotes and Some points on the characters enough to answer a full question.?

Isitthough?

GonnaFreak1994 wrote: »

Same here, haven't studied AT ALL. Crap at English, just concentrated on Geo, History and Bio (for which I hope to get As). For Macbeth I'm just gonna learn quotes and Lady Macbeth character analysis. Hopefully that gets me through. Also, for poetry I'm just gonna learn Yeats, maybe Dickinson and V&V for the comparative. In the Mocks I got a B in the Comparative, didn't learn a thing and I just went with the flow so that gives me hope.

Weird, beginning of last year I went to a specialist guidance councillor, and she predicted I'd get at least 500 points, but said that I had to study. Now I'm thinking I'll have to repeat as I won't get over 400. =/

lol exactly the same as you. I need over 400 but It's not looking good, suppose the option of repeating was always there and I will repeat if I have too but I,m just going to cram till next week I don't care if its only going into my short term memory, as long as it gets me through.
for poets Iv'e done Dickonson and Heaney in depth and I think I'll just Skim through the other 3 not really in depth. Comparatives are fine as you said thank god there worth the most marks. And your just going to do quotes and Lady Macbeth? What if she doesnt come up! Risky.

LoveLamps

Isitthough? wrote: »

lol exactly the same as you. I need over 400 but It's not looking good, suppose the option of repeating was always there and I will repeat if I have too but I,m just going to cram till next week I don't care if its only going into my short term memory, as long as it gets me through.
for poets Iv'e done Dickonson and Heaney in depth and I think I'll just Skim through the other 3 not really in depth. Comparatives are fine as you said thank god there worth the most marks. And your just going to do quotes and Lady Macbeth? What if she doesnt come up! Risky.

Once you know the play you can write about anything

GonnaFreak1994

Isitthough? wrote: »

lol exactly the same as you. I need over 400 but It's not looking good, suppose the option of repeating was always there and I will repeat if I have too but I,m just going to cram till next week I don't care if its only going into my short term memory, as long as it gets me through.
for poets Iv'e done Dickonson and Heaney in depth and I think I'll just Skim through the other 3 not really in depth. Comparatives are fine as you said thank god there worth the most marks. And your just going to do quotes and Lady Macbeth? What if she doesnt come up! Risky.

If she doesn't come up.......

Anyway, for the mocks I skimmed over Bishop the night before (just chose her because I opened the page on 'The Fish'), anyway, she didn't come up, didn't do the poetry question, finished an hr into the exam, handed it up and got a D1. Apparently the corrector marked really hard. Gives ya hope.

For Macbeth I got a C3 in the mocks with no quotes, (tried to put one in but it was wrong....awkward), so hopefully Macbeth will be fresh in my mind and combined with the quotes i'm hoping for a high C.

For me, its all about the last minute studying. Did the same in the mocks and got 390, with most of my points coming from History, Geo and Biology. Be ashamed if I don't break 400 and I will probably repeat. At the beginning of the year, I thought I'd rather kill myself than repeat. But I suppose the good thing about that is you don't have to do the subjects you hate.

GonnaFreak1994

LoveLamps wrote: »

Once you know the play you can write about anything

Yer, I agree with that, and back it up with quotes.

oncex

GonnaFreak1994 wrote: »

If she doesn't come up.......

Anyway, for the mocks I skimmed over Bishop the night before (just chose her because I opened the page on 'The Fish'), anyway, she didn't come up, didn't do the poetry question, finished an hr into the exam, handed it up and got a D1. Apparently the corrector marked really hard. Gives ya hope.

For Macbeth I got a C3 in the mocks with no quotes, (tried to put one in but it was wrong....awkward), so hopefully Macbeth will be fresh in my mind and combined with the quotes i'm hoping for a high C.

For me, its all about the last minute studying. Did the same in the mocks and got 390, with most of my points coming from History, Geo and Biology. Be ashamed if I don't break 400 and I will probably repeat. At the beginning of the year, I thought I'd rather kill myself than repeat. But I suppose the good thing about that is you don't have to do the subjects you hate.

If you don't work this year, what makes you think you will next year? NEVER EVER EVER not do a question, at least try. The mocks mean nothing.. not doing a poetry question could make that D1 an E in the real thing. All that aside, there are 10 days left. I'm doing about 10 hours, if you do 5 hours that's 50 hours and then you can cram what you have learned in those 50 hours the night before an exam. Remember you're finished at 5:20 for english paper 2, and 5 for biology.. that doesnt leave much cramming time when you factor in sitting down for a break/dinner.

bb1234567

GonnaFreak1994 wrote: »

If she doesn't come up.......

Anyway, for the mocks I skimmed over Bishop the night before (just chose her because I opened the page on 'The Fish'), anyway, she didn't come up, didn't do the poetry question, finished an hr into the exam, handed it up and got a D1. Apparently the corrector marked really hard. Gives ya hope.

For Macbeth I got a C3 in the mocks with no quotes, (tried to put one in but it was wrong....awkward), so hopefully Macbeth will be fresh in my mind and combined with the quotes i'm hoping for a high C.

For me, its all about the last minute studying. Did the same in the mocks and got 390, with most of my points coming from History, Geo and Biology. Be ashamed if I don't break 400 and I will probably repeat. At the beginning of the year, I thought I'd rather kill myself than repeat. But I suppose the good thing about that is you don't have to do the subjects you hate.

And you have all your notes ready to be studied from this year if you repeat! You know exacty whats coming up in all the subjects. I thought I would hate to repeat at the strat of this year aswell...But ive taken to the idea more now. If i dont get over 420 in this then I wouldnt mind to repeat i dont think

Isitthough?

LoveLamps wrote: »

Once you know the play you can write about anything

Hmm I know it to be able to talk about the play but I dont know it in depth. So would anyone recommend getting essays and learning key points? Im sure I can give a Answer if it's too the point I cant guarantee that, Maybe if I shove a bunch of quotes in there the examiner will know I have studied it and Give me a C oh and can I just study characters yeah?

Isitthough?

bb1234567 wrote: »

And you have all your notes ready to be studied from this year if you repeat! You know exactly what's coming up in all the subjects. I thought I would hate to repeat at the strat of this year aswell...But ive taken to the idea more now. If i dont get over 420 in this then I wouldn't mind to repeat i don't think

Yeah defiantly warmed to the idea Although still don't want too xD But I mean if I did I would start studying early rather than a couple weeks before the damn thing!
Ill give it a good go though see what happen

bb1234567

Isitthough? wrote: »

Hmm I know it to be able to talk about the play but I dont know it in depth. So would anyone recommend getting essays and learning key points? Im sure I can give a Answer if it's too the point I cant guarantee that, Maybe if I shove a bunch of quotes in there the examiner will know I have studied it and Give me a C oh and can I just study characters yeah?

Just studying characters is leaving you quite vulnerable. Like what happens to you if an imagery and a theme question come up??
Study
A main character MAcbeth
Secondary character - LAdy macbeth
Mac and LAdy relationship
Banquo
Imagery question
Theme of appearance/reality
Consequences of Macbeths rule
A scene of compelling drama

I think youd be ok if you learnt those. Dont just study characters though for your own sake :pac:

Osmosis Jones

I find as long as you know the actual story of Macbeth quite well, you can adapt it to whatever question comes up. Personally I'm hoping for a character or relationship question. English is definitely my best subject, got an A2 in the mocks, only got 300 altogether though. Suppose I was lucky with the questions that came up, Lady Macbeth question and one of the poets being Heaney were really suited to me. Only issue I had was with the essay question at the end of paper 1.

Isitthough?

bb1234567 wrote: »

Just studying characters is leaving you quite vulnerable. Like what happens to you if an imagery and a theme question come up??
Study
A main character MAcbeth
Secondary character - LAdy macbeth
Mac and LAdy relationship
Banquo
Imagery question
Theme of appearance/reality
Consequences of Macbeths rule
A scene of compelling drama

I think youd be ok if you learnt those. Dont just study characters though for your own sake :pac:

are you sure was looking through it and it seem to be that One question is to do with a character or a relationship and the other about the play itself images language etc...

bb1234567

Isitthough? wrote: »

are you sure was looking through it and it seem to be that One question is to do with a character or a relationship and the other about the play itself images language etc...

Oh really? Youre probably right haha

Isitthough?

bb1234567 wrote: »

Oh really? Youre probably right haha

Lol well I hope so! but yeah that's what it looks like one seems to always do with the characters themselves. Thanks for the essay titles though Ill try do as much as I can

oswinoswald

to study Macbeth this week I listened to the podcasts that have just been posted on the st columbas college english site.. (you probably know it already, but that's sccenglish.ie) they give some good points!!

Isitthough?

oswinoswald wrote: »

to study Macbeth this week I listened to the podcasts that have just been posted on the st columbas college english site.. (you probably know it already, but that's sccenglish.ie) they give some good points!!

Wow Looks great and they're pretty long.. I,ve never heard of this website should help alot thanks so much

Smokey2442

Yeah I don't really know what to study for Macbeth- just writing out notes for Kingship, Good v Evil, Sympathy for Macbeth, & Lady Macbeth- Ruthlessly Ambitious or Fundamentally Evil. Pretty much what's in the Key Notes book. They're the main themes so hopefully one will come up! :S

bb1234567

Smokey2442 wrote: »

Yeah I don't really know what to study for Macbeth- just writing out notes for Kingship, Good v Evil, Sympathy for Macbeth, & Lady Macbeth- Ruthlessly Ambitious or Fundamentally Evil. Pretty much what's in the Key Notes book. They're the main themes so hopefully one will come up! :S

Pretty much what IM doin too, fingers crossed!

Smokey2442

Yeah haha

Catwoman101

Anyone doing a Lady Macbeth question?

Isitthough?

Catwoman101 wrote: »

Anyone doing a Lady Macbeth question?

Yeah apparently she's likely. I just did Like a 2 pg printed essay Kinda a mix between sympathy and Fundamentally evil. Suppose her and Macbeths relationship could come up too

leavingcert problems

When tracing Lady Macbeth's development would it be enough to discuss the following?
1. Her initial ambition
2. Calling on the evil spirits
3. Her manipulation of Macbeth
4. Her flippancy after the murder
5. Her mental anguish

Are there any other points I'm missing? How would you intertwine a discussion on Macbeth into the answer?

Also is one major quote per paragraph enough??

Isitthough?

leavingcert problems wrote: »

When tracing Lady Macbeth's development would it be enough to discuss the following?
1. Her initial ambition
2. Calling on the evil spirits
3. Her manipulation of Macbeth
4. Her flippancy after the murder
5. Her mental anguish

Are there any other points I'm missing? How would you intertwine a discussion on Macbeth into the answer?

Also is one major quote per paragraph enough??

Yeah Along the lines of that And then even her flippancy before the murder, she wasnt concerned about kill Duncan at all. Then You would obviously have to link all that in to the question like fundamentally evil is a topic for LM but the fact that she has to call on evil spirts to "stop up the access and passage to remorse" Shows she isnt fundamentally evil. so I just link it obviously. I suppose you would intertwine them through their relationship and then contrast them like LM Sub-presses her morality and Macbeth shows complete discomfort in the killing before and after. You can also mention how she loses her control on macbeth as the play progresses, but only if its relevant to the question. and yeah Id say one quote per paragraph thats what my teacher says but like just throw a few in their when proving/ showing evidence. eg she believes Macbeth is to full of the "milk of human kindness". don't have to be big ones but if you have a few big ones up your sleeve and know them well throw them in it'll show you understand the play and Actually studied it!
Anysayd that what I'm doing. Hopefully other people will help you more on that one and give their opinions that's just mine anyways :P

leavingcert problems

Thanks a mil!! Very helpful ðŸ‘

MightyMandarin

leavingcert problems wrote: »

When tracing Lady Macbeth's development would it be enough to discuss the following?
1. Her initial ambition
2. Calling on the evil spirits
3. Her manipulation of Macbeth
4. Her flippancy after the murder
5. Her mental anguish

Are there any other points I'm missing? How would you intertwine a discussion on Macbeth into the answer?

Also is one major quote per paragraph enough??

If Lady Macbeth comes up, it's more likely they will ask a question, whether she is fundamentally evil or ruthlessly ambitious/ a complex or a simple villain. I wouldn't discuss it in merely chronological order because, you may end up summarising, which is absolutely hated. You're better off to discuss any Macbeth essay in a 'points-based' answer, and although 1 big quote per paragraph is probably enough, for every claim that you make you should have evidence to back it up ie a quote.